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RE: Roadmap for Hive-related work by BlockTrades in the next 6 months

in HiveDevs4 months ago

Sounds good! Some thoughts below

Change 5min vote window to longer window and provide proportional rewards during the window

Does this mean that within the 2-24 hours, the rewards will be equal across the curators and decrease after that?

Increase development pace of open-source user interfaces for Hive (e.g hive.blog , ecency.com, etc)

One thing that bugs me about this, is the fact that we actually really only need 1 open-source interface. There could be different teams hosting different versions but based on one code-base.


What's missing for me yet is something to incentivize token holders. I think it's crazy that LEO is creating more demand on the surface than the currency which bootstrapped everything. Why is LEO able to create and hold liquidity pools on Uniswap, while HIVE has no liquidity & volume. Any idea on how we can change/improve that?

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Why is LEO able to create and hold liquidity pools on Uniswap, while HIVE has no liquidity & volume. Any idea on how we can change/improve that?

This is easy - LEO has liquidity and volume on Uniswap because they use a portion of their inflation to incentivize people. Hive can and probably should do that too, and it's pretty easy as well. We could just create a DHF proposal that would give a certain amount of funds to anyone who provides liquidity to the wHIVE-ETH pool on Uniswap. It could be done in a somewhat decentralized way too with some development effort put into it.

This is the type of thing that I think would be a perfect use for DHF funds - incentive for people to lock up HIVE and provide liquidity on Uniswap.

After decentralized WHIVE is finished, I will create a proposal for this.

Awesome, I will heavily support something like that!

Awesome :)

Should be done for hive too. very good idea

Thanks for the write-up. Yes, I'm aware of the LPs incentives, I just meant what I wrote more in a generalised/dramatic way. I agree with your idea of utilizing the DHF for that though!

One thing that bugs me about this, is the fact that we actually really only need 1 open-source interface.

I agree, I don't see why we should be paying $130,000/year from the DHF to finance an interface a handful of users use.

Ecency is technically better than condenser, which should create the discussion of whether we should sunset condenser and use Ecency with a different color-scheme for https://hive.blog. Personally, I think this would also set a visual statement that Hive is truly not Steem anymore, by discontinuing the first application Steem ever had and going with something that is leaner & much faster.

In that case, paying a whole team 130k to maintain the primary native social app on Hive is worth it.

I haven't looked at it much but it doesn't look like a huge improvement from Hive.blog. Peakd on the other hand is light years beyond both. The only thing with Peakd is I wish there was a simpler normie friendly mode that it defaults to with the current advanced mode being suggested about a week later or even a month once the user gets more familiar with Hive.

Last I checked we are paying a significant amount for both front ends yet Peakd is by far the most popular.

By paying so much for these proposals we are just adding a lot more sell pressure to the Hive token for something I don't think is worth the money.

In that case, paying a whole team 130k to maintain the primary native social app on Hive is worth it.

We are paying two teams to maintain two different front ends, one has a very small user base and one is used by the majority of Hive users.

"Sorry kids no Christmas this year daddy's drunk again," will happen no more! Millions locked away in a safe that requires thousands of keys to open. Enough for fifty more new frontend we'll never use, at least.

From a joke I wrote near the end of March this year.

You check out my stand up I did in VR the other day? You might get a kick out of it.

I missed it! Going now...

Let me know what you think.
It's too late to throw tomatoes though.

Peakd is great, but it's closed source. It's written in Vue, (which I'm quite experienced with by now, so it would be much easier for me to contribute than React code). It has more features, but lacks in clarity, UX design, simplicity and is not yet enhanced for speed. Open up Peakd and Ecency and you'll notice how Ecency is much faster.

Personally, I think Ecency is the better candidate for the default open-source social-interface for Hive. It will need more work for sure, but the fundamental code it's built on is A+.

I've got much love for Peakd and the team behind it, but it will most likely require a rewrite and open-sourcing it, as closed-source code is non-acceptable for hive.blog.

Problem is that rewriting it would take time and two dev teams working on two different open-source code-bases is not efficient. If they do want to rewrite Peakd, I'd advise on looking into making Peakd not only a "Hive" interface but something blockchain-agnostic with an independent revenue model.

Last but not least, IMO any project getting funded by the DHF should be open-source and specialised for Hive.

The only thing with Peakd is I wish there was a simpler normie friendly mode that it defaults to with the current advanced mode being suggested about a week later or even a month once the user gets more familiar with Hive.

I agree entirely ... we want to do things like this. In the meantime there are some small ui changes even wording changes we could do very quick to make things easier.

I think is 100% worth it to make it. But it should be idiot friendly for users like me, that want to make there own front end. I would wish for something as easy as a WordPress ( or other CMS) installation. So the technical foundation is done and the marketing can begin :)

With Smart media tokens / second layer/hive engine or whatever it can be a huge gamechanger if this works for the less technical user ( not fulltime developer)

because we need different front ends that idiots like me can use at some point like a WordPress installation. I think that's worth on a longer time scale.