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He had to give a solid effort to get into it. 6 boxes, so I was right in having lost count.

I grew up in a family of pack rats. I learned to about 2 or 3 times a year open my sliding glass door and pile the contents of my room onto a tarp outside. I would then organize it all back into boxes and the such. It would get destroyed and I would then do it again. THAT is what I hope to get these two to attempt in even a tentative manner. So far my hopes have been publicly squashed.