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RE: @Smooth, fuck off.

in Proof of Brain3 years ago

My pleasure, thanks for your excellent post.

My point is all man-made systems are broken, every single one, so emotional maturity is literally the only viable response. At the same time I totally agree with you, downvotes heavily discourage mass adoption, and are generally a poor way to treat others.

His idea is helpful for sure. And I'd rather we have it in place, than be without it. The question is, is it helpful enough to magically resolve an issue that has existed in all systems since the beginning, though :)

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Do you think of all human-made systems as broken? I don't know if I agree with that. I mean, granted, in the age of planned obsolescence, it can seem that way, but that's by design. I'm starting to think that this system is more of a behavioral social-psychology experiment, similar to the Milgram experiment. One that I might be actively failing as I continue to participate. Getting emotionally well-adjusted to the process of watching people have their potential (rewards) taken away from them in the digital space might be a test to either program people to accept this in the physical realm or to study how they might respond. Perhaps people on HIVE who've become accustomed to downvotes on their hard work will be better prepared to accept a social credit score where their UBI is adjusted based on their behavioral responses and obedience to arbitrary dictates given to them by technocrats. That, or maybe some people are just assholes for a living and ain't shit nobody can do about it because they operate under the fallacy that 'might makes right.' To whit, I'd say to these people, may you live in interesting times.

the therory of the cia being behind the initial set up of steemit ties right in with this

@sift666, I didn't hear about that one, is there some content somewhere about it?

yes but i'm not sure if it has all disappeared into the black hole of discord...

i wrote a summary about two years ago, that i'll see if i can find

Yes, as earlier, I agree with the bulk of what you said in your original post, and this comment. :)

Just to clarify: By 'broken', I simply mean, unable to treat all of humanity fairly. People have been working on 'fair' justice systems since ancient times, still haven't managed it. Throwing code around, programmed by the same humans who've designed every other system, won't fix this. So unfair edge cases will always exist.

And the only solution I've come up with personally is 'stop breeding/raising assholes.' Much as it might be nice, no system can protect people from needing to strengthen their emotional intelligence.

One can simply study all systems since earliest civilization, or attempt to create a totally 'fair system' themselves, to discover the truth of this.

I think people should approach HIVE as if though it's a marketplace of ideas. If you don't like what someone is selling (saying), then maybe critique their work in a comment. Then show them with the way you upvote, that'll you'd rather buy from Sally's Pastry Shop instead. This type of behavior is a far cry and more correct than firebombing Betty's shop because you didn't like how she glazed your donut. When they added free downvotes and encouraged people to use them liberally outside of plagiarism and spam, it tainted the atmosphere, and it made things generally more toxic than they ought to be. @ryzeonline, if you want to get deep into thinking about this experiment. Watch The Orville episode called 'Majority rule,' either that or the Black Mirror episode 'Nose Dive.' It's interesting to consider and shows some terrifying consequences. And considering the Malthusian direction in which the world society is headed, if you want another less-related one, watch the Sliders episode called 'Luck of the Draw'.

Yep, I agree. I've seen all episodes of the Orville, including majority rule. The TV Show 'Community' tackled the subject matter as well. I agree with all of them. Being kind in the market is a 'no-brainer.' :)

Yelp, indeed. If you can ever remember the name of the community episode, I'd like to give it a watch.

My pleasure. It's Community, Season 5, Episode 8 - "App Development and Condiments" (Daily Motion has a very low-res version? https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6vtca8 )

Thank you, Sir! -- Great episode, I found it both illuminating and terrifying.