The moment you start dictating how people should vote you kind of lose the entire point of proof of brain.
Threatening to mute people (completely nullifying their investments influence) because they don’t vote the way you want is a slippery slope.
I don’t have any pob stake so my vote is pointless but I am not a fan of telling people how to use their stake. Buying stake gives you the right to influence the reward pool as much as your stake allows. You don’t like their vote? The community can counter it. Rewards are a consensus (or at least should be).
I would go so far that most of the upvotes are far more malicious than the downvotes.
I don't see why anyone would get muted? Nobody maliciously downvotes right? Maybe I'm being naive. If I don't like something, I don't upvote, I don't decide that I'll remove someones rewards they've earned from others within this ironclad DPoS system.
It seems like this precautionary proposal is a way to reduce the toxicity that is created when larger stakeholders decide they know what should and shouldn't be rewarded. The downvote system as it is (barring the use of downvotes for combating plagiarism/spam) benefits those who've positioned themselves on the podium within the ecosystem, and there is no alternative but to put up or shut up if you haven't got the wallet to back it up (sounds a lot like the economic system we were all born into).
People downvote all the time for tons of reasons. “Downvoting to oblivion” is extremely rare and only effective if the community keeps their head in the sand.
Extremely rare for you maybe, but not that rare if you have had it done to you a few times!
I’m one of the most downvoted accounts and I still stand behind it is a small minority compared to all other votes
Ever had your rep taken down 41 points for one comment?...no...didnt think so!
Ever had all your payouts wiped for 3 months? No... didnt think so...
Ever had your account rep taken down to below zero because you dared to disagree with a whale?
Ever had to start from scratch on a new account because your old account has been screwed over?
How is life on the inside?
Doesn't matter. Still rare.
You aren't everyone. How's life in the Hive bubble?
I know about the cross dressing thing...its ok, quite hip these days in fact...
It feels enforced...
@themarkymark, I greatly respect your opinion. Clearly we disagree on this issue.
Tribe activity and investment is an individual opt-in / opt-out decision. I, personally, do not care to be heavily invested in a tribe where folks can accumulate massive amounts of the tribe's token and then use that stake to downvote ideas (or people) they don't like into oblivion.
As such, this is a policy that will determine whether or not I remain an active member of this tribe. If it is voted down with no hope of a suitable alternative, then I will focus my efforts elsewhere.
Others may have the opposite perspective (i.e. they perceive this policy as "dictating how people should vote" and thus choose to not be a part of the tribe). As such, they are free to start or join a tribe that espouses their particular views (as am I, if this turns out contrary to my desires).
Has this actually happened though?
I really don’t think someone with 400 PoB is any threat especially when the owner has well over 100K and many others are up there as well.
I really doubt anyone has the power to downvote anyone on PoB to oblivion as many others can easily step up and counter it if they so choose. The problem is most people choose not to.
Anyway, I have no horse in this race so it doesn’t matter what I think.
Yes it is happening right now...
What I love about this debate is that the Hive Tribes system allows a different set of community rules about an issue (ie downvoting) to be adopted to that which applies on the Hive main chain.
I think that both @themarkymark and @trostparadox have valid and well thought out views on this important issue.
By having both options it both gives users choice and lets the market decide which they prefer.
In this case I think that both will be winners as consumer preference is varied on this issue.
Hive is so powerful!
Absolutely!
And different tribes can adopt different approaches.
This is exactly why centralized governance at the tribe level does not bother me. The decentralization happens at the 'consumer' level.
If I don't like the way the 'tribe CEO' is running things, I can invest my time and treasure in a different tribe -- I vote with my sneakers!
And not only that -- if I disagree with the way all the other tribes are being managed and if I'm an adventurous sort, I can go out and create my own tribe.