Yes, I follow you. I think we are generally in agreement on the desired end. I appreciate your 3 years of experience in fighting abuse. I think we have some significant disagreements on the best means to achieve those ends. Being new to the platform, I am less appreciative of the 'tools' that have been used in the past and more apt to look for new tools.
That's why I view tribes as a valuable asset to the ecosystem, provided they are allowed to operate autonomously without hindrance from the 'old guard'. Let them experiment with new ways of doing things, new methods for fighting abuse, etc.
I see "Proof of Brain" as an interesting and valuable experiment in that regard. That's why I am doing my best to suggest improvements. Even so, it is still an experiment and we are certainly going to make some errors along the way. Hopefully we can learn from and correct our mistakes relatively quickly, and keep iterating and keep improving.
There are already simple ways to "moderate" on tribes, but you prefer to drag this out in an "reinvent the wheel" convention.
Most people don't downvote.
You can moderate without ever have to downvote given the right tribe settings.
You don't even have to have downvotes in the tribe.
But hey, feel free to play "new king's men". Even if you have no way to enforce or incentivize your desired behavior. It's your right.
It's not actually that simple if the information isn't readily available.
The point is, it's there.
And that is a fantastic point. It's there, only know to a few and, as a result, almost pointless to have there in the first place. It almost forces a re-invention of the wheel. Fortunately, comments like yours forces a re-evaluation and seeking out of information not normally available. It a good thing, I think, in the end to have.
You guys could ask the Engine team to get some insights about those modifications.
Thank you very much. I will ask.
It's not actually that simple if the information isn't readily available.
That's exactly the point. Tribe moderation can be done effectively without needing to rely on downvotes at all.
Several of us see within-tribe downvotes as toxic and a weapon that can be easily abused by large stakeholders. We are trying to proactively deal with that issue up-front, openly, and transparently.