A bucket of cold water for us all. We truly need to do better at selling the idea of this place. I certainly do.
This whole: "come here, make money" doesn't work, and we are better off if we stop saying that altogether.
Anyways. I'm crowsourcing.
I'm also going to use commentrewarder, to intice people to share their pitch with us all.
Cheers my friends
MenO
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I don't have a pitch. I don't think Hive as it currently is can compete with any other service out there. The blogging engine is terrible—Wordpress was better than this 20 years ago (I know; I was using it). The design of any of the portals is terrible; true or not, they all look like they were programmed by programmers who think they understand how design works but actually don't understand how design works. We do have a great community here, but that great community is tainted by the "Hive Police"—the Orcas and whales who use their stake to enforce their own standards of morality—who bully and chase away so many people who join.
I've been saying it for 8 years and no one has listened, but saying "post for money" doesn't work. It works for some, but then they come here and find they only make a few pennies, and if they try to withdraw those pennies they start to be DVed by the Hive police who yell that they are just extracting value and don't deserve anything. These days it works even less because there are so many other places on the web that pay potentially a lot more. If you work to build to a presence on Medium or Substack, you can earn a lot more than you can here—and you don't have to deal with all the Orcas who get upset with what you do with your money.
To go along on that point, I think showing the money each posts makes is terrible. It inspires some people to be jealous, in inspires others to suck up. YouTube doesn't publicly show how much each video makes, books in the store don't show how much the author is making, my WordPress blog doesn't show how much I make from donations to it. I don't think showing the post earnings publicly is useful or beneficial.
We should work on the blogging engine here and make it competitive. We have been relying on this "get paid for posting" to make people overlook the absolute terrible blogging engine. Perhaps we can't compete with WordPress, but that is a good target in improving the blogging engine here. If we can do that, then our pitch cam be "Come here to blog, we are decentralized and everything you post will be permanent and not disappear like your old Geocities blog did"
Many good points here. Never thought about the showing the money thing. That could just be if you choose to search what someone's post earned, not up in your grill.
The stake factor is tricky. Everyone who bought and earned stake have the right to use it how they wish. But im still very interested in someone who could show real metrics. I have a sneaky suspicion that all this policing aspect you speak of is not as significant as the user loss. Reward pool drain vs. retention drain. What costs more? But thats just a feeling...im just not the guy who can find and show the data.
Does this help?
Lately my pitch has been, be selfish, be Hive.
Your uncensorable digital diary.
Do it for you, not for money.
It’s yours and will always be there to look back on…
stored immutable you…
your creativity crystallized
Store you for free and forever
A moldy shoebox of photos and poems or a pristine Digital Legacy?
Be Hive
immutable you = powerful words, I have to say.
I'm going to use that, for sure.
Oh, I like those ideas!
Why be selfish? What's the idea behind that?
immutable you is good!
I actually wrote back to you on my last post about my buttcoins story on hive article. In the comments i shared a link where you see me using the be selfish with a new user.
But ill explain what im trying to get at here.
My last 5 years of life or so, i have reframed the word selfish. Many see it with negative connotations, but i now firmly believe that being selfish allows you to be of the most service. When you have focused on self first, and your mental, physical, spiritual, and financial self is secure, you then have the true capacity to really be helpful to others.
So in terms of Hive. I’m saying dont write for comments, money, views, feedback, hive. Write for you. Write for your memories. Write about things that interest you not what you think will get votes. Be selfish means your gains come to you from focusing on improving —writing, presentation of ideas, readability, better poems, songs, better photos. Whatever it’s important to you, be selfish and do just that. When your focus is on your self, on your own history, skills, family life, personal thoughts…. Then you are comparing yourself to your selfs improvement via hive tools. Then all the comments, upvotes, new friendships… they become all bonus, the cherries and cream on top. But the real gold was your self scrapbook, that self expression developement that cant be taken away.
Be Selfish, the community will find you soon enough.
Ah, makes complete sense 😍
That's more sticky than explore an interest:
join hive. learn crypto. write for you
#hive #posh
@bill.prag dude bro... give me your best pitch. I see you!
@dbooster I'm going to start calling you guys out... give me your best elevator pitch bro!
@meno, I paid out 2.884 HIVE and 0.698 HBD to reward 6 comments in this discussion thread.