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RE: AT WHAT POINT DOES MY ART CEASE TO BE MY OWN?

At what point does my art cease to be my own?

After it leaves your head and is put onto a medium that can be seen and is experienced by any other person, the art is no longer your own.

Our problem with copyright is that we live in a world where you have to make money to live.
And so, we want to retain ownership for commercial reasons.

We also do not like other people using our images / media and saying it is their own.
This is sorta an ego thing and it is based on a world where lies are common-place and people want to look better in other people's eyes without putting in the hard work.

Both of these reason will be ... just plain gone in the next century, maybe even in the next 50 years.

The future, you will have your home (which is all paid for) and green house where you grow all your own food, a renewable source of energy and internets 3.0 ( i call it the interconnects.)

So, if you want to make art, you do so in your free time because you want to.
And one piece of art moves other people to make other art (sometimes derivative from your work)
This is the way art really works.
One inspiration causing another inspiration.

And one other piece is that it really is not your art.
The inspiration came from a higher source.
And that higher source can be tapped into by multiple people.

Many the times have i seen several people all invent the same things at the same time.
The Wright Brothers only beat a French guy by a couple of weeks for powered flight.

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French guy - what do you mean French guy? - a New Zealander first invented the aeroplane before the Wright brothers!

Richard William Pearse (3 December 1877 – 29 July 1953) was a New Zealand farmer and inventor who performed pioneering aviation experiments. Witnesses interviewed many years afterward claimed that Pearse flew and landed a powered heavier-than-air machine on 31 March 1903, nine months before the Wright brothers flew. Documentary evidence for these claims remains open to interpretation and dispute, and Pearse himself never made such claims. In a newspaper interview in 1909, he said he did not "attempt anything practical ... until 1904".

Biographer Gordon Ogilvie credits Pearse with "several far-sighted concepts: a monoplane configuration, wing flaps and rear elevator, tricycle undercarriage with steerable nosewheel, and a propeller with variable-pitch blades.

Pearse ended his flying experiments about 1911, but continued aviation work, attempting to develop a vertical takeoff and landing aircraft and rotorcraft. Late in life he became bitter and paranoid and was admitted to a mental hospital in 1951, where he remained until his death.

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See? Its in the aethers. Thousands of years man has looked at birds and thought of flying, and then blam! People around the world making aircraft.

i have even heard two people coming up with the same song.

Yes - I know you mean simultaneously but I still can't get my head around this example - so brilliant, but sued for plagiarizing the Rolling Stones - which they did - but it's brilliant anyway, and the one take video is a work of genius

Bittersweet Symphony was indeed a good song and the video was brilliant, almost an act of god.

And, if this guy was plagiarizing the Rolling Stones...
... if this is the level we have to go to, to be original, the bar is set way to high.
The Rolling Stones are ancient news. They should be pretty much public domain for artists.
Not to directly use their songs, but they are inspiration, from two generations ago.

That they are able to sue this far after they put their songs out into the world
only makes this world a poorer place.

I don't think anyone really got their heads around this one...

"Bitter Sweet Symphony" is a song by English alternative rock band the Verve. It is the lead track on their third studio album, Urban Hymns (1997). It is based on a sample it uses from the Andrew Loog Oldham orchestral cover of the Rolling Stones' song "The Last Time", and involved some legal controversy surrounding a plagiarism charge. As a result, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were added to the songwriting credits, and all royalties from the song went to former Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein. In April 2019, Jagger and Richards signed over all their publishing for the song to Richard Ashcroft. The song was released in June 1997 by Hut Recordings as the first single from the album, reaching number two on the UK Singles Chart and remaining in the chart for three months.

Acclaimed in music publications, it was named Rolling Stone and NME Single of the Year for 1997, and is considered one of the defining songs of the Britpop era. The accompanying music video features lead vocalist Richard Ashcroft walking down a busy London pavement – in Hoxton Street, Hoxton – oblivious to what is going on around and refusing to change his stride or direction throughout. At the 1998 Brit Awards, "Bitter Sweet Symphony" was nominated for Best British Single. The song was released in the US as a single in March 1998 by Virgin Records America, reaching No. 12 on the Billboard Hot 100, and the music video was nominated for Video of the Year, Best Group Video, and Best Alternative Video at the 1998 MTV Video Music Awards. In 1999, the song was nominated for the Grammy Award for Best Rock Song.

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