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However, as the political climate began to shift, so too did Rubin's perspective. A key turning point occurred during a 2016 interview with conservative Larry Elder. In this exchange, Rubin was challenged on the existence of systemic racism. This moment is often cited by Rubin as his "light switch" moment, where he claims he saw the light and recognized the right's critiques of the left. Following this pivotal discussion, Rubin positioned himself as a centrist/libertarian commentator, embarking on a new chapter of his career.