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Both speakers engage in candid introspection about their own careers and personalities. They discuss the significance of self-criticism—being the toughest judge of oneself—and how that relentless drive fuels continuous improvement. The acknowledgment that perfection is elusive and that a growth mindset involves embracing failure as a necessary step toward mastery pervades the dialogue. The idea that learning new skills—even ones you’re bad at—stimulates growth, is a recurring motif, with references to yoga, martial arts, and sports like pool and golf.