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The dialogue shifts toward media bias, how news outlets distort facts, and the importance of independent, long-form discussion. The speakers express skepticism about modern journalism, noting that sensationalism and clickbait have replaced factual reporting. They mention Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump as exemplars of personalities who speak boldly and authentically, transcending traditional political constraints. The conversation criticizes the current state of media, which often emphasizes conflict over substance, and advocates for unbiased, nuanced debate.