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The conversation ventures into the morality of government experiments and covert operations. Jacobsen recounts her interview with a scientist involved in clandestine human modifications, who confesses participation in creating beings intended to mimic extraterrestrials for propaganda purposes. She illustrates the government's dark history of experimenting on vulnerable populations—handicapped children, prisoners, and victims of biological experimentation—sometimes to the point of death, as in the case of Nazi scientists brought into America through Operation Paperclip.