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Regarding the timing of their last in-person interaction, the witness estimated it was sometime in the mid-2000s, again in social settings. They received no reports or indications from Epstein or others about any inappropriate behavior involving Trump, especially not related to massages or misconduct with masseuses. The witness denied ever recruiting or facilitating any masseuse from Mar-a-Lago to give any private massages to Epstein or others, asserting, "I've never recruited a masseuse from Mar-a-Lago for that as far as I remember."