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The conversation begins with a tongue-in-cheek reference to the meme, "reject modernity, embrace tradition," suggesting that the cultural left’s pop icons like Taylor Swift symbolize the excesses of modernity. Conversely, Lana Del Rey is portrayed as a figure embodying a darker, more authentic American ethos—rusted, gritty, and Moss-skinned—an aesthetic of a decaying yet profound empire.