because the secular economic trends are the longer term forces that are very, very, very slow moving. The secular economic trends will not change tomorrow or a year from now, even if you put processes in place to try and change them. So for example, demographics is a secular economic trend. Even if we put in place a policy that was geared around having a lot of babies today, it still wouldn't impact these secular trends for another five, 10, 15 years as that new class of babies came up through their early years and the economy had to divert more investment and more resources. So even though you can put policies in place today, it still takes some time. It's almost like they move at glacial speed. So I think that's a very good analogy is that the long-term trends are just very slow moving and you can make a difference over time, but they're very slow and it takes quite a bit of persistence to change them. Would you also put things like, so you mentioned debt demographics for secular (10/57)
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