barrier to entry. And only so many people could do it. What was that like being on TV at that time? Was it cool for your parents? Like what? Yeah, no, it was cool. It was cool for my parents. It was cool for me. You know, fortunately in my case, you know, I'm in Chicago. I was in the loop at the time and it was easy because all the networks, you know, they had Chicago affiliates and or there was a couple of independent studios that were all within a block of my office. So it was really easy to kind of walk over there and just do it and stuff. But it was, you know, and the old joke I used to say is to people is, of course I know what I'm talking about. I'm on television, you know, and that was kind of the joke. Now today with the rise of social media and stuff like that, that doesn't mean anything. But back then it did, you know, so that people would look at you and go, oh, he was on TV. And I always used to have this joke, you know, I used to say, people say, oh, I saw you on TV and (7/57)
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