different actors, all these different interests competing. Can you try and give us your best sort of overview of what that ecosystem is? Well, you're correct that space security and space development is one of the last vestiges of Cold War thinking. And that again goes back to the, because it's dealing with dual use technology. But space did not develop in a normal way. In fact, since the 50s, people have been talking about space development and the normalization of space development. What that means is in areas like aircraft, you had the public sector, the government making an initial investment to allow the technology to develop its seed money. And then you had the private sector taking over and taking it forward. So with airplanes, there was the, there were contracts given for private sector entities to deliver the mail. And if they could deliver the mail, they got paid and they could develop further technologies. But with space that hasn't happened. It's been dominated by (9/57)
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