was at Stalingrad, he was there at Stalingrad's side throughout much of that war. Kennedy, of course, fought in the Pacific and was wounded and lost some crew members on his PT boat. So they knew what war was like and wanted to avoid it at all costs. In fact, my good friend Sergey Ratchengo, a Cold War historian that was written extensively on the Cuban Missile Crisis, writes about how when Khrushchev decided to relents and withdraw missiles from Cuba, Castro in Cuba was unbelievably livid at this and was basically encouraged him to start a nuclear war. And Khrushchev was shocked and he was like, oh, my God, this guy's insane. I'm not starting nuclear war over Cuba, because I'm not going to participate in destruction of the civilization. Today you have leadership both in China and the United States, frankly, that has not gone through that experience. And in China in particular, they have not fought a war since 1979, a war that didn't go so well for them with Vietnam. And we, of course, (39/57)
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