after the 2000 crisis and then 2001, a Patriot Act, where I felt that America has taken a sharp turn into a different direction, where everything that I thought or took for granted in this new country for me, which is basically anything that's not expressly forbidden is allowed. Did you think of the Patriot Act then and the state response to 9-11? Did you view it even then as an overreaction? Absolutely. No, I thought this was the end of America. To me, that was the end of America that I knew. Because you had seen much worse. No, but when I saw this, I mean, I can't impart it to anybody who hasn't been there. Standing in the security line in the airport, if you want to know what it's like to be in the Soviet Union, you are in the Soviet Union. In that moment, you are in the Soviet Union. You're in a line waiting for something, and at the end of that line, a lot of bad things can happen to you. People don't think that way, but in reality that- I remember when people like Naomi Wolfe (53/96)
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