interested in, calls worlds. So that would be the world of finets, the world of media, the world of radio, the world of art and so on. They have their worlds that are human and designed by humans and created by humans and are not helpfully understood through the means of natural science. And I get a problem when you start using natural science techniques on that. That's when you see the most misunderstanding and the most absurdities. I mean, I think economics is the area of economics is the area that sort of systematically gets things wrong because they use, I mean, almost every time it's just ridiculous because they use the wrong techniques to understand the human being. Absolutely. So I'm not saying that I'm against science and I'm against the enlightenment, but I think there was a mistake in the enlightenment, which was in René Descartes, really. And that came from Plato, which is this idea that all we are are thinking things and that we have complete transparency to our brains and (20/57)
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