Johns Hopkins University, studying propaganda, studying the weird coming together of media and policy, both about Russia, but really across the world, and kind of thinking what media can do, how do we create TV and other types of media that are actually good for democracy? That kind of ended up being the question I sort of asked myself. So we know what the other side are up to. But, you know, we have a lot of assumptions about how media is meant to help democracy, but how do you tell stories, or how do you create shows that are good for democracy? And I can't say I've solved that, but that's kind of the big question that I explore these days. So you said that when you arrived in Russia, it was kind of the first draft of the Putin era, which was an interesting choice of words, given the fact that you also said it later when you were describing television that, in a sense that the Russian state saw itself through television, where you described sound a lot like a hall of mirrors. What (10/57)
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