national security perspective, we paid a huge price for it. We really got nothing for it because by that point in 1979, the Soviet Union and China were already reconciling. So that period of tensions was diminishing. In fact, a few years later, under Gorbachev, they would already start to rebuild their relationships to a great extent and the time was failing because Soviet Union at that point invaded Afghanistan. So the whole landscape was changing from what it was like in 1972 that Kissinger and Nixon leveraged. And I think it was a huge mistake by Carter and Brzezinski to actually open up China. We draw from Taiwan. And in fact, most of our problems, we can talk about this with regards to Taiwan's defense stem from that critical decision of 1979. What's interesting is that Carter and Brzezinski also armed the Mujahideen, which came back to bite the Americans. I mean, hindsight is always 2020, but- That was more on Reagan and fairness, but yes. Well, what's interesting about that is (22/57)
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