I doubt those numbers are meaningful in any way. How much of that middle class are active beyond auto voting? Answer- much less than the total.
Also, as long as the Whales use 100% of their voting power daily their accounts will continue to grow faster than the average 20 accounts in the middle class consistently. (This is an educated assumption, not actual. It could be higher or lower)
If Hive doesn't bring in more active users and retain its current users< which it's not, then all this is just smoke and mirrors and doesn't represent what's actually going on. The economics is flawed and is the reason Hive has long stagnated with no end in sight.
Years of hopium has blinded the builders and they are not making the changes that Web2 users need to see. Also, the average user will never band together long enough to make a real difference. It takes Justin Sun level events for that to happen and is never sustained.
You @taskmaster4450 have made your place here selling hopium, but little of it has actually materialized. So, hopium only sells to those already here and active, but not to prospective users outside of the platform, unfortunately.
It must be nice earning a nice selling hot air. You would be a leader if you concentrated on making what Hive needs happen, rather just trying to rally the troops to do their part. They won't unless they have an example to follow and words aren't actions.
I disagree with this view point. I grew from 0 over a 6 year period and have over 114K HP and believe I can get to whale status within the next 6 years possibly. If you are active and consistent this is up to you. No one said this was easy and even more reason to work even harder because anyone wanting to achieve anything in life has to put the time in to reap any rewards.
And you are representative of the average potential user? Not likely, you need to look way outside of yourself for this one...
Yeah I get that too, but reality is this is available to everyone who puts effort in for a long period of time.
Just curious, how many hours a week do you average on Hive and how many hours for the week you've earned the most? I'm not looking for exact numbers, just the best guess.
Never really checked but would guess 50 hours per week and somewhere around 600 hive being the best week. I used to spend more time, but have cut back. I believe you need time being active to get established.
Right, so more hours than an average full time job for about the earnings of a poor person for just one year, but it took you six. Most won't find Hive worth the effort and is why it has stagnated.
Yes that is one way of looking at it. The other way is you have grown a base that you can then put less time in and it will generate far more in the future. Time is needed in the beginning.
This view always bothered me and is the most common reason people don't stay. The write a blog and even if it gets $40, they go 'that's not even equal to 1-hour salary at work! and it took 2 hours to write, fuck this'.
Nobody understands how value here works. Like I've just watched my account casually go from $9,000 to $12,000 as the markets creep up in value. It's hardly impossible that goes to $25-$30,000.
At the end of the day, it's simply because people don't enjoy blogging, inherently. It's just not fun or interesting. I happen to like it though, so I stick around, and now people are jealous that I have $25,000+ in various places of crypto I earned 100% by writing words on a computer once in a while.
I might have instead watched a TV show every time, or gone fishing, and earned $0 in the same period. If you enjoy it, doesn't matter.
The average user is lazy, a complainer, and simply says give me votes.
And there it is...user.
Are those with stake users? They seem to want prices to go up so their wallet is worth more.
You say I just try to rally the troops? Have many times have I written/spoken about the ownership mindset? That isnt rallying the troops as much as assigning responsibility, something people abhor.
The reality is the same marxist stuff: attack the successful while pointing out what is wrong and the masses are overlooked.
It is a permissionless system. Anyone can post at anytime. They can focus upon layer 1 coins and layer 2 tokens.
Not sure any of that is relevant. How much stake is just sitting here in limbo, because people don't like how the power is distributed here? If you want web2 users then you want people that just want an audience and to earn fairly for their work. Add the politics and you burst the bubble of interest, which is exactly what has happened. Most don't care, won't care and the "revolutionary" tech here doesn't matter nor won't. Hive has set itself up to fail from the beginning and only the few holding onto hopium, but only see through a tunnel stay.
Here's my reply to @mobbs, which is partly relevant here, at least in part,
How is power distributed? It is based upon stake. So what is the issue? The fact that everyone doesnt have the same power?
This is true, or at least for a while. Most didnt care about video conferencing until COVID even though the technology was around for a decade. This is the history of technology. It is always the early adopters who are first.
Yet, if they are here, what are they here for? Is it the rewards or is it a chance to build a brand? Or is it just social media interaction?
In either case, the distribution is not relevant in any of those cases. Oh wait, only in the rewards because people want handouts.
What does this even mean? What is fairly?
Not sure what you mean, but stake weighted power will only be popular with those who have the highest stakes. It's a failed mechanism, other than for allowing an internal economy to survive with just a few people buying and selling.
With tech sure, but not so much with governance. People don't care about the internals of Facebook as long as they can function as they need. If you think the masses will come and the majority will care about anything but earning and audience, then you'll be disappointed. They don't want to be loyal to a product. They just want it to work towards their benefit.
Handouts? So, the Journalist who spends months on a piece is asking for a handout when they expect that piece earns revenue and do it beyond 7 days? I can use this example for many fields, making your statement ridiculous. That's why we don't have professionals using the platform. Hmmm, I wonder why Influencers don't come or when they do, don't stay?
Stake weighted governance is an awful idea and user numbers show that. Also, stake weighted voting is why professionals won't make the earnings they believe are deseved without putting TOO Much effort into it. When the time frame of success here is realized, they leave.
As usual, you HOPIUM sellers only look at the issues with a very narrow perspective, which is why Hive is stagnate...
Really? So you dont think that people should have a say based upon their stake? Instead, just show up and you are counted the same as those who are involved, doing the work, and have an idea of what is going on.
We see this mindset all over the place and it is an awful ideology.
Yeah. Those without resources always want to have say over those that do have them. Sorry but I cant agree with this ideology or the support of it. This is nothing more than the proverbial class warfare. But now I see what you are saying about "earning fairly".
You can't fix a problem if you don't understand what it is or refuse to see them as a problem...
Nothing more than excuses. Very typical when handed an opportunity.
Is Hive perfect? No. There are a lot of flaws and things missing. However, like most opportunities, it is missed.
Nonsense. My success is due to taking advantage of the opportunity by actually being active. You want success, post more content. It is that simple. Few write more post, do more videos, leave more comments/threads than I. It is really that simple.
There are a lot more network effects other than users. This is only scratching the surface.
A lack of understanding of network effects and ownership. The troops are the ones who own this place. There are also other layers where an increase in activity have impact.
Lol, your posts posts mostly create a potential vision, but that vision falls short of what Hive needs to succeed... Read my other reply to you. It should be its own blog post, but I'm not interested in the near valueless grocery store rewards points distributed here. Understand that and understand why the masses brush Hive aside when it's presented to them.