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RE: @jrcornel Being Flagged to Zero!

in LeoFinance3 years ago

Let’s not forget only evil actors in Steem/Hive drama are Justin Sun and Ned.

Where people post or how they use their funds really shouldn’t be anybody else’s business. It is a free market.

@jrcornel is one of the talented authors whose content has always been consistent and interesting. I see such authors as assets of the platform.

If authors come up with creative ways of earning more, more power to them. Judging their decisions based on what they do with their coins and how they utilize various platfroms is just not helpful. These downvotes are not necessary and would be nice to see them stop.

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remember geekgirl about slowwalker?

You said, slowwalker is decent and supported you with 'votes'. remember what I said? they got to vote something..

Oh wait, want to see slowwalker now??

https://steemit.com/@wisdomandjustice/posts

geekgirl I like you, but you can be naive sometimes.

I like you too and I would come to your defense as well if I saw you were being bullied. You are a great asset to Hive as an author, investor, and active member.

Yes, you have been right in the past and I was wrong. Just because you were right in the past doesn't mean you are right all the time. Is it possible you might be wrong sometimes? I think you are this time.

I find @jrcornel blog posts interesting and useful and I believe many others do too. Sometimes just to catch up with what is going on with BTC and Crypto, I specifically go to Jrcornel posts to see what's going on.

What are the reasons for downvotes? Cross-posting on Steemit? Selling Hive? These reasons don't fit in any definition of an abuse. What people do with their content and assets is their business. Don't you agree? Isn't that what Hive actually means?

Driving away talented authors that provide solid and consistent content using Hive blockchain doesn't really help the cause Hive is trying to advance.

Please reconsider your downvotes. It is not just authors you are hurting but also the Hive members that enjoy the content shared by the author.

Do you really think he is talented? His posts basically are reduced to repeating what news outlets publish and at the end say "stay informed my friends".

Of course sharing what is going on in the world has some value. But I think that what ticked off alot of people was the fact that he has been milking the reward pool with several alt accounts while pretending by omision to mention they they belong to the same person.

To be honest, I dont blame him for still riding the milk train on steem. Let's be honest, a bunch of people are posting on both chains. Are we going to start to downvote all the people from Venezuela and other misfortunate countries who are doing the same? What good would that acomplish?

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I do think he is a talented author. Keeping up with the daily crypto news and presenting summary with personal opinions in an interesting way does take some talent. And I see value in that for Hive.

"His posts basically are reduced to repeating what news outlets publish and at the end say "stay informed my friends"."

Good point. One of the reasons I muted him, aside from considering his content overvalued.

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Agreed everything was repeated what was already out there and nothing new.

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I am not talking about anyone other than you and me. Because for everything else, the evidence that @abh12345 presents right here at the top is sufficient. If you have any questions I am sure Ash will be more than satisfied to help you. Please feel to check it out.

Yes past performance doesn’t guarantee future results ;) Mutual funds say that eh? Yeah BTC went from $100 to $50,000 doesn’t mean it will go to $500,000? Eh? :)

Yeah. I am right yet again. And no, I am not right all the time.

I always enjoy our discussions geekgirl.

Let’s not forget only evil actors in Steem/Hive drama are Justin Sun and Ned.

That's a nice revisionist history. I suppose all the witnesses that declared loyalty to Justin Sun must be innocent as well.

One of the biggest failure of Hive/Steem is who the community pretend to be talented/popular when they are just a subpar versions of Associated Press in a tiny puddle.

You can call those witnesses and others who may have sided with Justin Sun many things, but "evil" is not one of them. Evil acts of hostile takeover that put the chain and the user assets at risk were done only by Justin Sun and Ned. When the hostile take over of the chain governance happened, initially there were only JS sock puppet witnesses at top 20.

Those who sided with JS and joined him, did so after the fact. Their reasons may vary. Perhaps some saw a financial opportunity, perhaps some saw an opportunity to influence the direction network should move, perhaps some saw it as retaliation to past conflicts. Doesn't matter. All happened after the fact. And there were very few witnesses that chose to do so. Even today, I believe majority of top Steem witnesses are JS witnesses.

Decentralized systems are all inclusive. You many have participants who actually prefer centralization, and participants with wide variety of points of view and opinions.

Anyway, my point is the topic of this post really has nothing to do with Steem/Hive drama, and downvotes should not be used based on that.

Evil acts of hostile takeover that put the chain and the user assets at risk were done only by Justin Sun and Ned.

No. The Korean community that became the witnesses sat on the fence until they found a way to take it over completely for themselves. They are not innocents in this.

Those who sided with JS and joined him, did so after the fact.

This in untrue.

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What I meant was initial attack was done by JS alone. Those who chose to support the actions did so afterwards. Perhaps you are right, maybe if KR community votes instead supported community witnesses JS hostile takeover would have failed. But we don't know that for sure. That scammer has many resources and connections. I think he would be able to takeover even without KR community support.

Moreover, we may not agree with the votes cast by KR community at that time, but that doesn't negate the fact that those votes still were legitimate votes. People can vote in anyway they want. The only illegal votes were done by JS, because those stakes were not meant to participate in governance.

I share your thoughts, and wish KR community sided with the overall community. In that regard they might have failed the community. At the same time, from a different point of view, one may conclude that overall community failed KR community.

Decentralizations allows presence of opposing views and participation in governance with stake based votes. Every stakeholder had a right to vote whichever way they choose. Only votes that were illegal are JS stakes bought from Ned, and the votes by exchanges using user funds.

You can call those witnesses and others who may have sided with Justin Sun many things, but "evil" is not one of them.

Guess consenting to fork out user funds is not evil in your eyes. A kind reminder that only @blockbrothers walked out with a clear conscience and immediatley lost support from JSun.

Revisionist history indeed.

Anyway, my point is the topic of this post really has nothing to do with Steem/Hive drama, and downvotes should not be used based on that.

Early benefactors of @ned's bs need to go as well. All of them. Eventually.

It didn't matter who witnesses were. Stealing people's funds was ultimately an act of one person. Only one person had the power to do so and that one person had enough sock puppets witnesses running. So there was no need for anybody else to support him. Just the fact of 2 or 3 witnesses supporting, only gave a lame excuse of saying "this is a community decision". You give too much credit to those witnesses. By doing so, you may qualify this theft as a group effort. There was no group effort. Only Justin Sun stole and wanted it look like a group/community effort.

Again, this history is irrelevant to the current topic.

Keep up with the mental gymnastics.

Ned's relics will be retired one way or another.

Why hasn't he posted four times a day with his main account and felt the need to create an alternative one, but without disclosing his ownership? Is that creative?

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It is a personal choice. Many people have alternate accounts for various reasons. Having alternate accounts, not disclosing ownership, etc are not abuse of any kind. Hive operates under DPOS protocol, so multiple account ownerships by a single person does not hurt Hive in any way.

It's definitely not abuse, but it's for sure a trust issue for his community if he owned multiple accounts without publicly unveiling that. It's that trust that he's lost and probably never regain. I bet most of the ones that downvoted him were his curators before that. He has simply disappointed though his attitude.

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