Move over XPOLYCUB - LBI = xLEO

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Hello LeoFinance. Everyone talking about polyCUB and its XpolyCUB vault and how great it is. I agree that XpolyCUB is a great token, maybe one of the best I've ever seen a farm release and these words dont come lightly as I've been very public about why not to hold farm tokens but this one is different so far. I guess technically it's not a farm token because you dont yield it but it's in that ballpark as its value is connected solely to the number of polyCUBs it's being traded for and the price of polyCUB.

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Anyways, this post is not to explain XpolyCUB, that's been done to death already over the past few weeks, today's post is about how Khal stole the idea from LBI. That's right I said it, I said it with chest as well. LBI is basically xLEO when you think about it. Investors invest in LEO, LBI uses that LEO to make more LEO and the LEO price of the LBI tokens increases. It all makes sense now, this is why Khal never invested in LBI or checks out its posts, he has been planning this the whole time. I thought he never liked the project, i thought he thought it was shit didn't like someone building a project on top of his but of course now..., this makes complete sense. He saw the model and thought "GENIUS", im gonna build that into a defi platform. Have investors stake polyCUB into XpolyCUB and share the earnings from 50% fines to increase the XpolyCUB's polyCUB price. It's practically the same thing as LBI does on LeoFinance with a few differences buts it's the same thing. We should not accept any compensation because we are all about taking others' ideas and tweaking them, improving them and adding to the advancement of crypto technology.

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Anyways, they get more serious, when you think about LBI tokens are sorta like xLEO tokens because of it's model and how the fund is managed. Shout out to @forexbrokr who left the comment last week with 3 words "LBI is xLEO". Of course, its clicks and makes sense right away and I thought, great title for a post and here we are reading about me making fun of Khal for ripping off LBI's model. Jokes, of course, i need to fill words in and making taking swings at teh guy that makes it all possible is a little cheeky but makes good content. The title explains itself and I cant post less than 500 words so gotta write something.

LBI = xLEO

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LBI's base value is based on LEO. All our weekly reports are displayed in LEO, our targets and incentives are based on LEO, tokens were issued in exchange for LEO only so were 100% an LEO token and the first LEO based/backed token not released by LeoFinance to add a cherry on top. Our goal is to increase the value of the fund through active and passive investments. Currently, most of our income and growth comes from active incomes but we are 15 months old and we dont really got funds for proper passive incomes just yet, maybe 1 more market cycle will get us onto that train. Our biggest earner at the minute is polyCUB but this is not income money, this is growth money. I mean to say our biggest income earner is LEO curation, followed by content on HIVE, content on LEO and then 4-5 others smaller incomes. We pull in 1800-2000 LEO per week so we do ok, it could be better but we do ok.

LBI can not compete with XpolyCUB in terms of ROI because they are 2 very different tokens sharing 2 fundamental key traits.

1 - They are both fully backed by underlying assets. XpolyCUB is 100% backed by polyCUB and LBI is 100% backed by roughly 66% LEO and 33% other cryptos. Those that know me no I have a boner for backed projects/tokens so I really like this about XpolyCUB.

2 - The goal of both is to increase the value of their token by increasing the number of tokens backing it. Most tokens are trying to increase dollar value, of course, both LBI and I assume XpolyCUB want to increase in dollar value but they do that by increasing the underlying assets instead of a good marketing plan and hype. LBI's long term goal is to increase the LEO value by earning LEO through creating content, sub-projects (CUBlife) and making savvy investments. XpolyCUB increases its polyCUB supply from the 50% fines collected from early harvests and inflation.

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These are the sorts of projects we need more of in crypto and on HIVE. Too much BS going around built on nothing, promises, sweet words and false hope. Why do we need more tokens like these? because we can see what they do, we can see the value and how it's added. Khal pushes his stuff pretty hard, the guy makes 4 announcements a day on discord, does posts, AMA's, videos, Twitter, interviews and prob tons of stuff we dont see so he's a shiller for sure but, and this is important but, but I can see that the polyCUB price of XpolyCUB is increasing and know the polyCUB is there to back that price because I understand were the polyCUB comes from the back it. I can view the wallet on the blockchain and I can see it works and that is important. It's not gonna do whatever in 6 months time, it's doing what's supposed to do already. The proof is in the pudding and the pudding is very sweet indeed.

In crypto, we are mostly investing in an idea as most crypto dont really do that much. The founders and team will say it'll do great things, change the world, drive adoption, provide the best APY's, meetings with big important real-world business people have been set up, they are gonna spend x amount on marketing and they sell a nice package but most will turn into nothing, we've all seen a token pump like crazy for a few months cause it's an ETH killer are something and 6 months later they are forgotten about as it's replaced with the next one.

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With tokens like LBI, XpolyCUB and others I manage, we can see how they work. If you had no knowledge of CUBfinance and you found polyCUB just by chance and you were to only watch the XpolyCUB vault for a few weeks, you would see the polyCUB price increase each day and you would understand why because it's detailed at the bottom of the page. You see it in action doing what it is supposed to do, not what somebody says it does are will do in future, you can see it right now. With LBI, the same thing, you never heard it and one day find a post. You check the next few weekly reports and see how it works and see it in action. Nice and easy, seeing is believing.

So I hope you enjoyed today's post about LBI being xLEO (which it is) and me rambling on. We are all pushing hard on polyCUB when you're converting some of those profits into LEO, dont forget about LBI tokens and all the advantages token holders have just by passively holding them, no staking is required to require weekly LEO dividends and most of the time, the only way is up baby. Thanks for checking out the post, I hope you enjoyed it, want for a little humour at the start there. Have a geat rest of your day folks and feel blessed to be involved with xLEO 😎🤑

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No doubt LBI is xLEO, sorry to repeat it but... GENIUS !
Should we find a way to lock LBI dividends for 90 days and apply 50% penalty for those who want to get it earlier ? :D

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haha, we'll maybe skip that part

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Best thing about LBI is I can just use hive engine without learning all the polycub stuff. I am old and sort of tired, so easy is better.

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Thank you, we might someday create a beeswap pool that makes it easier to buy and sell larger amounts of LBI. Thank you for your feedback and support

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Yup PolyCub is now a trending topic in hive cum LeoFinance. Polycub holders can expect big amount of profit as I learn from expert's post.

Thats awesome, thanks for checking out the post

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The difference is LBI has no price and no liquidity.

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Your right.
I do the best with what is available and nothing is available because all our LEO is staked and im not willing to give up any off growth funds. LBI could offer liquidity but it would cost LBI its off-platform holdings and after that, a power-down of LEO would be needed because starting buybacks is a 1-way door. As someone cashing out, they dont care much what happens but my interests are more with investors that plan to hold long term. As I have said before, when the option is available, it'll be done. I cant force growth and investors voting in dividends too early killed building investments which is the money that would fund buybacks. . This is not ideal for me either but as I said, I do the best with what I have.

LBI does have a price. 1.58 LEO

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Haha, I love your work guys :)

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Thank you. Sometimes I see comments and they give me ideas, yours was a dozzy for an easy post with a good title.

Thanks for the feedback :)

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Funny, I had the same thought about LBI being similar to Polycub. Same for my project, the @oneup-cartel. We own assets (like LEO and soon LBI) that create yield, which we partly share with our token holders and partly compound back into more assets and innovation, to further increase sustainability through yield. That is a pretty nice circle, especially if you own yield-assets (like CARTEL), which in itself owns yield-assets (like LBI and Polycub), which are backed by yield-assets (like LEO or the Polycub LP treasury). Wild stuff.

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Damn, i'll need o look more into this Cartel token. I know my SPI gamer account has some but not that many. Thanks for sharing the information

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A very interesting way to look at it. I hadn't really thought of it like that before. I think what really has me in this post though is the fact that it has been 15 months since LBI launched. That just doesn't seem right. I can't believe it has been that long!

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Oh yea, time goes fast when your having fun :) Sounds like you doing something right

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I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right. Both are backed by the native token to the project. Seems like you were "ahead of your time" in developing these. :-)

As for the buyback program, I would think there is enough interest in LBI to create an "internal" market for that. What I mean is, last time someone wanted out, they got out in a couple hours and it only took a day or so for the price to rebound to previous levels. I would think that if someone wanted out in the future, they should be able to contact you through Discord and you could facilitate the transaction through the LBI posts. Not sure if LBI could collect a fee on that or not...?

Anyway, say I wanted to sell my @4000 LBI. If I came to you on discord we could discuss a price and you could post that "4000 LBI are available to purchase for 1.3 LEO each" (a discount to the market). You could get people to contact you on discord with "commits" and once the 4000 is spoken for, people could send their LEO to LBI and the seller could send their LBI to you and you could send the LEO/LBI to the appropriate accounts. Charge an extra .1 LEO or something to one side or the other and LBI keeps that fee to add into the pool.

I would say there would need to be a minimum like 2000 LBI or something but, it would be another potential income stream.

The way I've described it may be a little too clunky to be done but...like I said, I think there's a big enough following in LBI now that it wouldn't take long to make both sides happy. Seller gets out of a large position without killing the market, buyers get in at a discount, and LBI makes a small fee on the side. Just a thought...

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Deffo worth some thought, little pushed for time as i need to go to work but i've been thinking of offering liquidity, just not sure how is best.

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Was not familiar with LBI. I checked it out. It doesn't have any value at the moment so he must have done something different.

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LBI has no value? Ohh, never heard that one before

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Great analogy having LBI as xLEO and is mostly true. I wonder if LEO could become deflationary through some mechanics at some point, but considering that it is a blogging sink probably not. Still, maybe we can learn from all these projects and replicate a sustainable model also for the other Leo Finance tokens.

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It could but it would require everyone to take a hit and i dont everyone would take a hit, lol

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Impressed that you are impressed by xPOLYCUB.

These are the sorts of projects we need more of in crypto and on HIVE.

Couldnt agree more. Most of crypto is still speculation, wen mooning. Few are looking at yield and long term growth. It is one of the reasons why I keep harping upon targeting the fixed income market at the base layer of Hive. We have a huge opportunity that the industry is overlooking.

This is the evolution of the industry whereby people can start to formulate returns as opposed to just buying something and hoping it goes up. There is still a degree of speculation in that we are still looking for LEO to go up. However, the fact it is all priced in LEO (the holdings) means that is the unit of measure. Hence, we look for growing of LEO on a weekly basis.

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Its a backed token, we see how it works. Yep same thing for HBD and it's 12%, we understand how it works and it works perfectly.

We need more projects like this in crypto for sure

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Haven't heard much about LBI in a while, but have always been a fan. Timely post friends, well done

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We're still here doing our thing, still grinding and building

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love the meme-ing action you got going in this post :)

Ya cant beat an ole meme my friend

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xLEO is sounding SEXY!

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should we rebrand to xLEO? haha

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It's an interesting way of thinking but I do think LBI is xLEO. It's a nice comparison and I think it could also be extended to a bunch of different projects.

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Yep, sure could. Someone suggest we add a 90 day wait on dividends and charge 50% to claim early, lmfao

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Had not really thought of it that way, but it makes a lot of sense. I have long liked the simplicity of LBI tokens because I can just buy them on Hive-Engine and then let them "sit there."

Sometimes the lack of liquidity is a little bit troubling... occasionally, I have seen buy/sell spreads between 50-100% and more, on a very meager daily volume; like right now the BID is 0.125 and the ASK is 0.294.

But I am still glad to have a modest stake.

=^..^=

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If you can buy them back for under true value which is shown in each weekly update post, you could stake more cheaper :)

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Would love to see a hold on LBI dividends and kick it back into gear. We grew so much in the first 6 months and maybe worth revisiting.

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I think i have to powerdown some LEO and move it over to polyCUB. Most will not like this but it i'll convert harvests back to LEO and increase dividends and then people will like it. staked LEO, pLEO, same same

We need to get growth from somewhere and polyCUB is paying out 350% after 50% is taken away compared to 15% on curation. No brainer

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I am an LBI holder, but the one thing that makes LBI not xLEO yet in my opinion is its lack of liquidity. I can dump all my xPOLYCUB immediately if I wanted, but it's almost impossible to sell or buy LBI in bulk these days.

I think that if LBI had a decent-sized Hive Engine liquidity pool, then it would actually be xLEO :).

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You make an excellent argument on the topic and I am glad I own some. Need to get back to building more though!

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LBI .. ...is that like HBI or SBI as it used to be? I have to look into it.

The best of artists steal from where they see great art no?

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Another good thing about LBI is LEO weekly dividend :)

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this is my second time of hearing of this token and I can't wait to dive in once I have enough to go around with

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Thanks for this great information. Very interesting.
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