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RE: 'Cancel Culture' And The Parameters Of Free Speech on LeoFinance - Is Something Amiss Or Am I Missing Something?

in LeoFinance3 years ago

We really didn't look much at all at the situation. Downvoted because it was entirely irrelevant to the actual content itself.

I think too many people take downvotes as a personal attack as opposed to what they are literally intended to be: a disagreement over the content, context or rewards (or all 3) on a particular post or comment.

Just as you are able to vote who you want to vote and post what you want to post, others are able to downvote what they want to downvote.

The beauty of Hive is that all of the actions live on the base layer of this blockchain. That means that regardless of what you do, you can't be censored in any wa on the blockchain itself. a UI can remove you, another user can downvote you, etc. but your content/actions can't be removed from the blockchain.

LeoFinance is meant to be a place for crypto/finance content and discussion. If something is on there that doesn't fit this description, anyone on the site can downvote it.

Again, people take downvoting so personally. If downvoting becomes an attack vector: i.e. we take leo.voter and start downvoting every single post and comment that someone makes regardless of what they say because we don't like them - then I would be concerned about the use of downvotes... This happens frequently on Hive but never happens with this account, so I am not concerned.

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Downvoted because it was entirely irrelevant to the actual content itself.

No, it wasn't. It was very related.

I think too many people take downvotes as a personal attack

You completely ignored the issue of the 'rep'. You destroyed his rep with your little button, without even having the Honor or decency to comment as to why you showed how hurt you were. You didn't 'Disagree'. You didn't do anything but destroy a new account's rep in one shot. Lols even mentioned that he/she better not protest, because he/she is afraid of going 'negative' and being muted. You do NOT address this ramification, that you are guilty of imposing. You, should be PROTECTING others (new,small,etc) against the very abusive behavior that you have just demonstrated.

I find your actions here, sickening. I find this destructive downvote system sickening as well. I find the illogical word salad used to justify it sickening as well.

I was waiting to see a more 'official' response from this community, and now I have it. I most definitely will be having nothing to do with this. We have enough issues on Hive as it is.

As far as I am concerned, this is a typical Cancel Culture place. You should give fair warnings instead of Hypocrisy.

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The comment in question was very specifically relevant to the content, and taking an account rep down from 45 to 4 for one comment is as personal as it gets.

I realise my 50k delegation was not a lot in your 2.5 million pool, but I know four other accounts who have now pulled their delegations to Leo-voter over this blatant downvote abuse, and after reading this response, all I can say is you have confirmed my decision to stop all support for Leo-finance.

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This happens frequently on Hive but never happens with this account

I would not imagine you going after accounts in a vindictive and punitive manner like some big accounts previously have on the blockchain, and how the person who posted the first meme feared you might.

Whereas downvoting in general is a personal matter, one of the meme downvotes came from a big LF 'community' account and the other from the personal account of the 'CEO' of LF. This is a clear signal with undeniably 'official' overtones within the LF ecosystem. The meme was not anti-semitic in spite of the accusation. However, the meme was also not irrelevant to the general topic as it spoke of the wealth of a family involved in banking and the use to which this wealth has/is being put. Regardless of one's opinion on the accuracy of those statements, the meme itself and the brief text comment ("Musk is just a dog-boy...") cannnot be justifiably accused of being "entirely irrelevant to the actual content itself". The user has now recovered his rep, but being hammered down to single-digits is a pretty brutal experience, especially when unfairly accused out of the blue and finding oneself beaten up by powerful allies of the unfairly accusing voice.

What happens when the accusing voice voices a LIE? The voice that shouted out the falsely applied label of anti-semitism - not just once, but twice, and against two different folk, neither of whom had displayed any anti-semitism.

  • The particular instance of this falsely accusing voice as per the drama on the 'meme' post appears to have a form of official support and sanction from LeoFinance.
  • This support implies a tolerance by LF of what is a manifest example of 'Cancel Culture'.
  • This is a dangerous precedent. This is unsettling because it is appears to be potentially considered acceptable

These are the points that I wished to raise.

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