So listening to the Jack Mallers podcast the other day on Fountain, made me realize how insane maxis are...
In this August show with Barstool Sports' Dave Portnoy, this guy literally told Dave that smart people never spend $BTC and people that have bitcoin never want to use it and spend it.
What a clown show....I mean, what's the point of it other than store of value?
Maybe someone smarter than me can explain to me how this makes any sense.
Their idea is copying what happened at the 19th to 20th century turn. In Manhattan. Hold until the asset moons. Then take loans out against it. They don't care about using it just hoarding it. Old world trying to corrupt new tech.
They don't know how silly they sound pushing these narratives. Why own something you don't use? Is it a trophy? I do not believe in these supposed legacy chains and their minnows. The space is changing rapidly and it will surprise them when move away from the bitcoin narrative.
It's insanity. This stuff is supposed to change the world, but instead we are just going back into greed. I think that's why I love this chain so much, most of us WANT everyone to get it and use it.
I kinda see the maxis point about bitcoin potentially becoming like a new kind of protocol of money that underlies everything in the future or being one among a “basket of goods” that become the mix reserve currencies. I wouldn’t use Bitcoin now. I think maxis are maxis for the same reason I am a hive maxi. Most stuff is shit and they don’t have the time to sift through all of it or have given up already.
Listen to Jeff Booth. I think he makes a sound argument, whether it’s right or not.
Khal has made a good point. We need to attract money into the Hive ecosystem rather than have money escape. We need to provide value to change the flow, not cut rewards.
Question for you Khal, what do you think is important for a whitness to get community support? And what needs to be done to get your support and that of INLEO?
I think this idea of using part of the rewards pool to reward pageviews or traffic would be really amazing. Right now, we have limited views for quality content especially from outside of hive. If we really want to grow and become a global brand, then we need a way to attract that external traffic which would boost hive use as a blockchain.
#question we need better ways to gauge valuable contributions on Hive. What are ways from a developers perspective can we make that happen? If we know what content does best, we can tailor our content to achieve that.
I am not talking about attracting Hive eyeballs. I mean ways to gauge traffic we are receiving from outside of the platform. That's how we will be become relevant
I would like to hear from you what you think of the role assigned to HW? Do they fulfill the function for which DHF pays them? Is it necessary to have 1 or more "groups" to do this control as Hive grows?
I haven't had any personal interaction with them. I know it's a hot topic. I think on the surface, it's a project that was always designed to keep the blockchain clean. I hope that will always be the focus.
i think thats what the original mission was for all these type of projects. hope it gets back to what it's intended to be, and not personal opinion about what deserves rewards and what doesnt.
I've interacted with them primarily on behalf of other members. Essential project, but the implementation has been questionable from my personal POV. I think there may be better options for how it can be run, but it's going to require the involvement of more individuals.
I think I'd actually like to see either a larger amount of people running this type of project (for the purpose of decentralization / consensus) or possibly have someone assigned to each community so that each community could decide how to use this type of project. Easier said than done, of course. I think there's an essential role for them on the chain - if implemented properly.
What bothers me, while some planktons strive to do right, Ive seen abuse from certain curators of whale accounts farming votes on Alts & claiming it belongs to relative. Also Hive user & anti-abuse bot dev @YAZIRIS is highly underrated.
Removing the reward pool on the Hive blockchain doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Rewards are definitely a big motivation for many of us to be here, but it's not the only reason. We also care deeply about the growth and development of our community. Plus, there are lots of people who rely on Hive as their main source of income.
That's the issue ... you are DETACHED, sir. But one does not have to be detached to think logically. And, AGAIN, this is not a game for most people -- Splinterlands cannot be the model for Hive changing lives.
Is it possible for users that were blacklisted to be forgiven and be part of the reward pool? I feel blacklisting shouldn't last forever but for a duration of time.
Coming to the reward pool on hive. Is really helping drive hive to a brighter space in the cryptosphere. Hive is changing live in many places in country and is drawing more people to itself through the reward pool.
as a curator, I speak for myself, I do the work. And to be frank, there isn't much out there but that's because if the model we have adopted overtime. This conversation is quite nunance
Currently the Splinterland curators have been taking curating more seriously for some time now so that all those who make an effort to create content are supported and those who don't are pushed aside.
In the context of curation trails, how can users effectively utilize downvotes to signal undesirable content and promote better curation standards within a community?
What does the panel think about posting your content on multiple platforms and blockchains. Should users be encouraged or punished.
Alternatively should we have post on hive first policy and rest it is up to the user to repost as it is their content.
I have a question about Hive-engine. Does the Hive engine exist in the Coin market cap? Is it valuable for the crypto market? Are bear and bulls affect the Hive Engine tokens?
i personally think rewards are very important. new users have a chance to actually earn some here, instead of having to buy into positions like on other chains.
they have been fantastic at supporting the community. i think Matt mentioned it's a bunch of factors, not just creation. but also the traffic and engagement the video receives.
I read something on 3speak that suggested that to stand a chance to be curated, you should get more views on your vlogs. I wanted to find out what the window of views is from time of publishing your vlog to time of curation.
Please, I want to recommend the effort of the inleo team. I also want to point out that we can do better with the UI because sometimes preview on threads do show until after some minutes. This discourages engagement on thread. #suggestion
Sure, the second layer can be simpler than first layer, it can all be about 2nd layer, but only Splinterlands is mature enough for that right now. Leo maybe in a few months. Give me 10 more of those before we talk about removing the rewards pool
Weldon Arcange!
The decentralized nature of hive is really one thing I love about hive. People love it when they see they can own their information and data. The decentralized layer of hive s driving it far in the cryptosphere.
Make projects like inLeo to divert the community in such a way that scare of AI and the vote abuse would be 2nd thing that community thinks when they login. You can't kill yourself now because terminator is coming to get sarah conor in 2050.
So AI abusing reward pool does not mean we kill hive. Many dapp owners would be using AI to write their code, build their games, so do you want to fund them in proposal?
I must say this is the most valuable space for my hive career. I learn so many thing from you guys. I just get some awesome answer against some of my confusion.
Big thanks to all the speakers of today, you have all done justice to this topic, I really learnt a lot of things from this discussion, and I will keep participating on every space in order to gain more knowledge about the Hive blockchain
Security, is very very important in any organisation, when there is a strong security the members of the organisation can clearly boost about their organisation to other and invite others to the organisation with being afraid
The fact that evey business can be marketed on hive is really amazing, programmers, designers, writers, singers and so on have been given the opportunity to advertise their skill through the hive community
I don't think removing the reward pool is the best way to go. One of the things that makes Hive different from other social media platform is the fact that it rewards content creators for their contents.
I can totally understand users who don't produce content on Hive wanting to remove the reward pool. It's always easy to remove something that you are not involved with.
A Big shout-out to Arcange!! Because he made some awesome software. I love the Hive Buzz most. We can get some special features to create a better Hive career by his softwares.
I thought I was building during my grind but I don't have as much as I thought from just curating and engagement. I need a 10 year bear before the bull.
It is a great idea to empower the communities to have their own fund, also that there are different funds and that everyone with a good project can access the fund without the need for large votes and whales to be approved.
I have a good idea of what I think about this topic, but it's always good to see other points of view! I've already changed mine a few times by listening to some other points of view.
#HIVE communities like venezuela has been wonderful, but the cryptospace is relatively small and we need to open up to partner with other communities like #Ethereum #EOS #Ton #nft
Building houses around the world can offer a way to work, meet and greet the community.
Hive, being a blockchain-based platform, has the potential to explore and adopt sustainable solutions that minimize energy consumption while maintaining the integrity and security of its ecosystem
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Downvotes is a great features, although most users don't like it but it helps regulate the activities being done on hive, because most people Post content that abuse the platform so this contents need a Downvotes
I do not have problem with the downvotes in as much it is done in a right way, all I'm having problem is that downvotes should not be used to intimidate anyone on the platform.
The Cryptoadoption project of the state of Sucre is growing every day and is a worthy example for other states, we are talking about a circular economy, our cryptocurrency is managed within the platform.
I really want to know why some persons would take their time and write something meaningful but end up with little or no vote but someone who writes non meaningful things get the vote
Wow, deeann Dova shout out to you ma'am,
That was really awesome.
She said it all and I believe I am very convinced by her points, what a brilliant contribution.
Engaging inleo is great. I wish other social platforms are incorporated into inleo. Is it only Twitter that can be adopted in inleo? Why are engagement in other social media platforms not adopted as much as X is? #townhall #question
I think she is making some points. Hive is different from other web2, this is web3 whereby whatever you do you will get paid for it.
Thanks for that point you mentioned.
Hive is bringing people together and the Hive Engine and the simple system is helping people to build an economy through this ecosystem to support themselves. Layer 2 projects are gaining ground on Hive.
I dislike the use of power to some individuals on hive (whales) the fact that they at times misuse the value of the power they have. I have been a victim of getting downvoted heavily because some whales are having some misunderstanding.
The distribution of rewards is usually a part where if not really looked on, some engagers may stay without benefitting from the rewards, so a deep look at it will be better and favourable many.
this discussion is getting better and I believe it will work great for the changes in each community in hive.
There are many ways to earn on hive like tokens, delegates, and many more.
Yeah, there a lot of ways and opportunities one can earn from the Hive blockchain but that main idea of taking out reward pool isn't the best guys, trust me, the other sources you were mentioning such as tipping, layer 2 tokens, and others
exactly... this is onboard's biggest argument against all the prejudice that still exists around crypto.
The first thing they say is that crypto is a scam and Hive doesn't even ask you for 1 cent to start and this becomes a great incentive and with people paying attention it can be used to earn more than the mandatory purchase of tokens could bring
BINGO!!!!!! The fact that anyone can earn Hive makes Hive special! It's why I stayed here this long and I hardly pay attention to payout. I'm fine with moving that to layer 2 if it works, but then that takes away a lot of what makes Hive special. @threespeak
The negative vote is part of the regularization system and necessary in cases of abuse, what is frowned upon is when it is used in a personal way or to censure or intimidate someone.
I agree with this too. The downvote option is surely there for a reason and that to curb abuse and misuse on the platform. It also stand as a sort of control mechanism to go against what people do to spam the platform.
Hive is different from web 2 and other social media platforms where one can come with Zero recourse and make thousands of dollars. The idea of down vote and reward pool wount speak good of us
making changes will cause many consequences like everytime it’s not going to work like the same as previous one, because it’s not same thing as it was before. So, it’s necessary to think about it with proper reasons.
It is true that before harassing someone by voting negative they should set an example to solve the problem and give a warning that they are doing something wrong. And thus give him the opportunity to improve the user.
I think downvotes matters. We can erase the scammer and spammer to make a healthy community with this option. So audience can get some cool content every time.
I totally agree with taskmaster, these are most of the reasons why Hive is like no other. Coming into Hive with zero resources and with consistency one can get enough resources and more.
In my opinion downvotes are not a problem as well. The only time it becomes a problem is when it’s abused by just anyone cause he or she wields that much Hp.
We are gonna go mainstream in institutions, but then again, f-ing word, infrastructure. I start the onboarding process and then we get a lot of errors during the process and that's it, they gone, we have to work harder to get them back that we should if all goes smooth
I'm of the agreement with the last speaker, there should be some level of rewarding system for those who made content outside of the hive blockchain on other platforms. Compensation should be given as well in order to appreciate their work
Hmmm to take away the entire reward pool will definitely be hard. I think we needs to think about it well. Because most people on Hive are there because of reward pools. Now my question is how will people earn if there's no reward pool?
Some people only depends on this. We should think about it well please.
But the problem with content visibility is pervasive in every social media on the web. Sometimes people don't look at our content, but for that reason we need to plan for our audience, too. Unfortunately we can't reach everyone on the web.
Removal of incentive could dampen motivation and participation. Reward fosters a vibrant and engaged community, crucial for Hive blockchain's growth and success.
I disagree with the idea of removing the reward pool on the Hive blockchain. Rewards are a strong motivator for many. Removing the reward pool would have serious consequences for the community and those who rely on it.
I really love the project proposal listed out there from the Pinmapple community speaker and I will surely and gladly support that with my little Hive Power I got here, that seems to a be a great idea and I fully second that. This night I will read through that proposal and leave out my feedback to the leader.
From the 3 projects Tib spoke on, I have explored only Pinemapple and I didn't really understand what was happening. The blogs there are very quality and that was was drew me there but I just couldn't figure it out. I saw things like maps
Big account are blessing for us. They curate our posts to encourage us to make more qualitative content. I also wanna be a whale in the future. So I can be matter for this community also.
Zealy change my personal finance. By joining here I can do something for the community with my own financial backup. Zealy Campaign is so addictive and I love to complete quests.
Something like community notes on hive is an interesting idea, hadn't thought about it, not sure how it would work, but it's an interesting thread to follow
hive has really changed a lot of life. There are many proof of it on hive on different group. Check Hivenaija and Hiveghana and other communities. Also how does one qualify a post that needs downvote? I only downvote AI or plagiarism post
Ahh. Removing reward pool from Hive? Then it means you want Hive to collapse. Lol. The truth is that if rewards are taken away from the blockchain, what is left? No one will remain here, even though there are still people who don't write for the reward because they do not rely on it to feed themselves. Why are we promoting Hive then? Is it not to bring people and help eradicate poverty?
yeah I also agree that the downvote is not necessary.
If u don't like a post just ignore I know this will be hard but we have hive watcher so they can check any improperlities
It is in our hands the responsibility of making the hive work well, we have power in the decisions, therefore, voting for the witnesses is very important so that the community projects are carried out.
Do we understand that just a small group care about the blockchain and governance? Do we understand that this skews things in a certain way? Many people don't even know why they power up. They do so because they don't want to be seen as exploiters and they want to earn more. It has nothing to do with governance OR they want to earn curator rewards.
When we speak of Hive, and changing it, we are speaking of changing the lives of hundreds of thousands of people ... so, voting for the right witnesses is important.
Witnesses are important. I certainly have learned in the past three months that I need to be sure the witnesses I vote for are still running (no. 1) and that see what I see on the chain... vote all thirty, folks.
I second to the opinion about the downvoting, that is not necessary at all. If you don't like something, it's better to ignore rather than doing a harm to a person in particular.
I understand the comment from the guy who talked about the 7 days. I always thought that fewer days would be cool, but removing a deadline I don't think would be good for Hive.
There are many new feature that am seeing and I love this and this new features will make the platform more enjoyable for users, even easier and I hope proposal about the proposal will be accepted,so we can enjoy this fully.
When it comes to downvotes, I feel it serves as a mechanism for self-regulation within the Hive community and without this regulation, a lot would go wrong.
Changes in a specific part don't just end there but the effects should also be channelled to seeing how related protocols are being put in place. Rewards pool and downvotes works in tandem.
@deeanndmathews making a lot of sense with her talk. Why bother changing something that is working so well at the moment. Taking away the reward pool will take away from so many people
she totally nailed it man, i didn’t know she was going to attend this space man , I was just nodding my head in agreement to everything she is saying, I love this; why change sth that is working so well ATM.. noice
Wow, you have to work for a whale before you can earn on other platforms? Do these platforms call themselves web3? That's just insane. Hearing things like this make me appreciate hive more because I don't have to work for anyone.
One other problem I have is with downvoting without reason. When I get an upvote I know you like my post but a downvote can be for many reasons; so I should be told.
HiveHub has been crashing since the Keychain mobile app several days ago. I say this for information and in case there is a possibility that they can solve it.
Indeed, it will be necessary to find a solution related to rewards. Perhaps this is a complicated issue, and some may not be satisfied, but changes may be necessary for overall improvement.
The Hive Rewards Pool is where the rewards for your content come from. The upvotes you receive for your posts or comments are not coming from those people who upvote you but from the Rewards pool. It is also where your curation rewards come from.
But why don't pay those ad revenue shares in addition to the reward pool? What's going to happen to the reward pool at the end? I don't think inflation is not a problem that big that many people tend to think. I think Edicted is right.
I could like to ask what are the main proposals around the reward pool future? What are the problems or threats people see in the current one deployment? Without going deep to its backend, I could say that I like the way it works.
That was a great ideas form Taskmaster, I do second with him as well, there shouldn't be any way that the reward pool is taken off from Hive blockchain, we know that a lot of people do join the blockchain from zero to hero.
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the reward pool on Hive.Although most individuals rely on hive as their primary source of income,rewards are a major source of motivation for users, and We also care about the community advancement.
Attaching a fee for an instant power down can be a game changer. Sometimes, emergency happens and we just need to get it fixed before being in a good frame of mind to continue building.
We talk about DVs for plagiarised text but what about over-reward of #travel #Architecture #outdoor blogs? Loading a post with photos without talking about the designers or some educational history yet earning 100$+ should fall under abuse.
This is one of the great advantages of Hive! The truth is that we need more people who really want to build within Hive... Today it's a small group trying to build and a huge group concerned only with rewards!
Why is rewards pool going to be taken out of Hive blockchain? Then I think they will be no basis for creating content here, not only that because curators will also be useless where they can't earn anything for from curation rewards.
D reward pool is probably one of the heartbeat of hive that attracts users to Keep comin and interactin on a daily basis and removing such would be more like a disaster that would make most people get discourage,powerdown which affect hive
removing the reward pool on hive is basically sending everyone back home from a party.
I do not think such a move would give a brighter future for the hive ecosystem no matter what the reward pool would be replaced with
Think about it
Wow! These are really cool things I much say. Your proposal should be granted for the project to commence. I can't imagine seeing location or maps of posts and other cool stuffs you mentioned.
Honestly together hive will become great.
I don’t think that would be a good idea just to remove the reward pool on the Hive blockchain, I feel that rewards motivate people to be on Hive also because it’s decentralized. But there must be some other ways to cooperate together.
On the issue of AI, I don't deny that someone can achieve something of value, something sound, through it, but it should be stated quite explicitly, and then let the whole community in a decentralized way decide on its merits.
#Q
Everyone here bring value to hive, but only quality content is been rewarded. Some put more effort but it hard to notice them, so they left after quickly. If we want to bring masses to Hive, Does Hive have what to retained them???
Now speaking about reward pools,
Something bothers me a lot and that is the fact that the rewarding on hive is somehow unfair, permit me to say
You can make a decent write and earn less than someone who made a less effort post.
It's common
The value of content is always subjective. Each person determines what is valuable to them. This is why I love the idea of communities. When a curator is based on the niche of a community, then each article is valued in context of the commumity niche. So the downvote feature is great especially when a content niche is different from that of the community.
The statistics and format to curation of contents is really interesting but sometimes they are some omission which in turn affects others who are just genuinely taking a slow way to grow.
Statistics might be another key component to drive the sunset of the reward pool. Something that brings value to the blockchain does more for #hive than something that stays inchain.
Taking away the reward pool without replacing it with something meaningful is going to lead to a downward spiral. There has to be something people look forward to as they put their content out there
Sincerely speaking rewards is one of the things that made me join hive, unlike web2 platform hive offers users a reward for their engagement , so I think rewards should always be made use of and not abandoned because it is a great tool.
Increasing reward pool you be the topic of suggestions not removing, and if rewards pool is removed, what is the other plans to keep user's here, how do you people intend to give them value for their time.
One of the most an interesting recurrently is the reward pool, it's quite good, I'm expecting some level of increase. This is a welcoming development, but it should be moderate and every users should be able to have some level
Sounds like Tib does a lot of work on chain, though I am only familiar with one of his projects which is pinmapple. Will need to go look at the other two and see how good they work.
From the 3 projects Tib spoke on, I have explored only Pinemapple and I didn't really understand what was happening. The blogs there are very quality and that was was drew me there but I just couldn't figure it out. I saw things like maps
I use 3speak often but most times I find it difficult to load my video and publish it. This always pisses me off and I will feel like not loading a video.
Wow that is a great project you got from there, I will definitely check that out, wow, I like the fact that it can generate you live location to places that you wish to know, those are great projects, will do my best to stop by and support
anyways, I hope this hive token reward pool will not drain hive of users because what then is the essence of marketing hive, the hive token distribution is what makes hive unique on this decentralized space.
As increasing the value of second-layer tokens would lessen our reliance on Hive as a reward token, I believe we should concentrate more on this. Every community ought to produce additional uses for its tokens.
The method used by 3speak is the best and amazing because, it is simple and straightforward, your content has a direct relationship with the reward.(statistically driven rewards).
I partially agree with this statement my dear, I believe the distribution of rewards should go around, including the newbies who make quality content on hive not just focused to one side of the chain, noice my dear…
I had issues with 3speaks some weeks ago, my post was upvoted and also was deducted a few minutes later, can I ask what was the problem, what am I not doing right.
I believe that the question about rewards and downvotes is important to reformulate, as it is complicated, for example, for a newbie to do something that shouldn't receive a downvote and give up, sometimes this can be a big barrier to entry
I think theirs no need to reformulate especially the Downvote, I know it is hard for the newbies when they receive a downvote, but it is a kind of way they will learn that they have done wrong.
The word quality will always be SUBJECTIVE. There will be massive abuse however we chose to go about itit. Reward on post is either automated or base on Curators discretion.
hive is indeed all we ever wanted, no one wants to be told what to do and the hive platform gives us that freedom. web 2 platforms you are told what to talk about and what not to talk about, but on hive what you talk about is left to you.
I'm a fan of how the 3speak team distribute their reward/upvote published via their Frontend, for a content to generate more views, engagement and the likes kind of mean it's valuable and that other users find it worth engage with.
in a nutshell like the team called it 'Statistics driven reward', it's a cool way to go and encourage users who don't just put in more effort to their content, but also interact with others and much more.
The value a content brings to the platform can sometimes be influenced which is most often dependent on the networking an individual has on a space. I just think the content has to work with other activities.
One important thought I want to appreciate so far is that reward should not be based off content quality alone. Instead, every activity that brings value to the hive blockchain should be rewarded. That really means that reward should not be just for content. There should be rewards for other positive activity like bringing traffic and having a lot of views.
There have been this controversy with 3speak curation system in that they curate contents after the first 24hours. The problem is even after the first 24 hours, the post might drive more traffic but no curations are then given.
contents creations and shared is one of the way to get rewards and distribute upvotes. That's how it have been but now, votes should be based on any acts on Hive that add value to the ecosystem
It would be great if great rewarders such as 3speaks lays out the criteria for which someone would earn rewards, that way content creators tend to put in more efforts and create things which would be beneficial to the hive community.
For a long time I struggled to make things I thought were valuable, but sometimes it's difficult because the problem is the perception.Not many people think what you do is "valuable" or worthy of being upvoted, and you get discouraged.
Although I've heard of reward pools before but I never knew how exactly it works. If not for this space I would have really been in darkness about this. There are so many things we don't know honestly. Knowledge is indeed power.
When it comes to downvotes, It's important to strike a balance and use it responsibly to foster a positive and constructive community. Now, the big question is; how do we strike the balance? There are no rules guiding how it works.
Valuable contents bring joy to the heart whenever I see them rewarded. Well-made content generated from life, not machine written content written to get tons of views, and undeserved value on it. That's plagiarism, too.
Question: I would like to know more about how Hive Witness works, because there way a day a friend of mine newly introduced to the ecosystem asked me what it means but i could barely gave a reply.
Basically, it is about some users who put a node to verify transactions on the Hive Blockchain, their position has a lot to do with the votes they get from the community itself, they decentralize the network and keep it afloat.
Yeah,using rewards from the views doesn't mean it will be less. We just need reach the better infrastructure to actually make this possible all around Hive.
I mean, we should be finding out audiences outside hive so when this is incorporated into long form and subscriptions become a thing, I think we will turn a new page, even if it’s a slow process. No need to get rid of first layer rewards, the focus should be on making them less relevant through other means
okay, okay. What do you mean by great content? You know, this is an old conversation I have had so many times and it is a bit exhausting but I will reiterate: We need better metrics to evaluate content quality. These metrics have to be verifiable by everyone.
Quality contents also depends on the community. Some quality contents aren't recognize because it is posted to the wrong community. Where people doesn't really need them because it isn't of any value to them.
Downvotes in particular is a dicey topic to poke around. Since we are on it, I'm looking forward to all the takes that will be given regarding Downvotes.
Hive frowns on plagiarism and content farming which will probably attract a downvote. But I have come a across some posts that are not plagiarized but downvoted and a reason was that the post isn't high reward deserving. Why?
at the end of the day, the way the chain is set up...you can do with your stake as you wish. and for some, for whatever reason, is to use their downvotes to remove potential rewards
What do you have to say about the downvotes on innocence one’s, also when new comers don’t know about the rules and make mistake & all of their posts get downvoted later on they end up leaving Hive.
i think that hurts with onboarding. because sometimes new members of the community don't know the culture and the 'rules' of the chain. there should be some grace.
Also voting down one post is enough in my opinion to warn them in the beginning instead of going through every post to downvote even though that post has not broken any rules. May that could be a solution ?
i honestly have no idea how any downvote trails or projects work. i personally have never taken part in it. but another reason why proijects like $LEO are so important. very minimal 'removal of rewards' here.
i think the downvotes aren't a mass issue because it doesn't affect most of the users. the downvote wars and 'petty ego DV's' seem to be the bulk of the concerns people have.
This is true, some people just give you downvotes because they don't like you, and it has nothing to do with your content, but how they see you as a person. 1/2
Five fingers are not the same and I admit that Hive has some racist users as well. So they can target users based on personal enmity, religion, or color. Sometimes content has nothing to do with it.
The way it's working here on LEO, is that you content when you create through the inleo platform, will reward you going forward for the traffic it generates. so no longer a 7 day payout window.
We need to bring at least 50,000 new users to Hive, and then they will bring more. Only then would things move towards mass adoption and the popularity of the chain.
The only solution is more users but the question is: Are the hive nodes capable to have so many users?
100% agree on both statements: We need 50K users for kickstarting everything, until now this feels like an open beta.
And B) We definitely need stronger infra, I've been super angry with Hive-Engine this last weeks. This is terrible UX
The negative vote is an important tool, but some measures should be taken beforehand. Notifying about the error and giving a warning would be good measures.
What happens when you discover that the owner of the account is not a real person, do you constantly downvote them? what happens to the reward that they have milked already?
What is the thought about new users getting huge curation rewards on their contents from the start even though they are full of quality? And for new user getting nothing for too long even with their quality contents.
All though I'll say it's just a matter of luck and timing sometimes or is it not?
How would you know when a post is valuable to the Hive community? All we have been saying is knowing the value and if it is valuable to the ecosystem. So how would you be able to know if it’s valuable to earn the reward pool?
the key for me, is the engagement and views. if there are plenty of comments, that means it struck the attention of people. and the views are a product of it.
oh i completely agree. this is a slow climb for sure. i've ben here for almost 6 years now, and i still have trouble attracting engagement and views. it's really a case of showing up, daily, and stick to it over time.
Wow 6 years, well I’ve been here for 6months and honestly it is difficult but I guess it’s just time. Thank you so much DJ Jongo for answering my question. I appreciate
it is time. and trust me, i know it can seem like it just never getting better. but you are doing the right things. engaging here every day will be huge down the road. you are setting yourself up i believe for big things!
if you have the resource credits, you can post as much as you wish lol but i try to create one post a day, some people do multiple...but it's up to your audience, what they accept and engage with.
i think it's a combination of different tasks and abilities. but chain security is very important. for me, i believe it needs to represent the value they are bringing to chain as well. and represent the actual users.
if you have a free vote for witnesses or if you vote for witnesses who are inactive, take a look at the current active witnesses. Any vote helps keep the node running!
On a normal occasion, the downvote option is used on post that are perceived to have too much rewards or on post that seem to be farming rewards from the blockchain.
If you get a downvote, your reputation goes down just like when you get an upvote and your reputation goes up.
Negative votes are part of HIVE's system, if you commit abuse of any kind, you can have negative votes, and if there are many, your reputation will go down and disappear, that's all. You just have to not abuse the system.
I think one solution for rewards is to attract investors so that all those content creators who put in the effort are supported, currently there are few whales and lots and lots of content creators.
I honestly have a question; what is the motivation for raising the possibility of eliminating the reward pool? What is the origin of this idea? Is there an alternative incentive system based on Tip, or something similar?
@khaleelkazi is right about building a proper economy having a value in and value out. It's a hard thing to measure. Inleo is doing great with ad revenues and the impression. Bringing money into the system would be nice.
I am glad the topic "Downvote" would be looked into today. Even though it's part of the system on Hive, downvotes should not be misuse. Imagine the phrase, "two elephants are fighting, the grasses suffers it". That was how it was some months ago where I was affected on my posts for some weeks. I didn't like it. Downvote option should be for those violating the rules on Hive and not the innocent ones.
I don't see any other Blockchain based social media platform like Hive. As a DeFi platform, Hive is the best. They who love Web3 more than web2 can use Hive instead of Twitter and Facebook.
I think I can relate to what rondon is saying on the use of AI, it is actually factual that AI generated posts can be easily detected, there is this extraordinary perfection on that post, which means Ai posts are impeccable, noice rondon
Plagiarism is a big offense that needs to be punished, imagine claiming ownership of another persons content, content creating should be based on personal experience nd most importantly ORIGINAL, its nice we have a police to curb that act
Sometimes, I see people with original content earning less than one who uses AI images and text, and that's demoralising.
There's so much work to be done here.
Some communities frown upon AI related content I believe. For example hive learners do not appreciate blogs that are AI generated. You could get downvoted when it is found out your blog is AI generated.
yeah instead of damaging a house solve and renew or attack the problem, because you can't destroy hive with it's success so far. Hive has been growing and it's going far that's what I believe
Removing the reward poll is like removing the identity of Hive. It's inevitable take the reward poll away and see how alot of users will leave the hive blockchain. This technology has been a source of livelihood for alot of users here.
Thanks guys. Hive is the greatest community with some helpful mentor. I want to use my best effort to grow the community across everywhere. And last thing is "Hive is the Blockchain for Web3"
And that is the other thing ... people consider Hive around the world because they can change their lives with it, and not just with the token. Once people learn how to work consistently in community, that changes their lives.
Question: I don't have much knowledge about the reward pool, but I know that it is shared among all Hive members, I think that's basically it, but I still have questions, does this pool reset every day? Or Month? Would it be somehow infinite? So do we have Hive for the rest of our lives or is there any chance that the Hive token will end one day? Thank you for your attention.
Question: Sometime last month I heard a user made mention of probably removing the Hive Reward Pool. Now my question is will there be a day we would wake up in the morning and realized no more Reward Pool on Hive Blockchain?
When I hear the word, Hive Community Town Hall, I get confused even when friends invites mme to listen to the town hall, I don't get it. So, what's Hive Community Town Hall all about?
love to get in depth insight into all there is to downvotes. Had a nasty experience with a hiver and couldn't understand what he was trying to explain. Suffice to say some downvotes are totally unnecessary
I got downvoted on hive once and it was a very painful experience, though I was the cause but it did not stop the pain. Imagine losing everything because of a a mistake.
I am interested in the topic of Reward pool as I don't know much about it, so I will try to pay attention, despite the language, when they talk about it.
My take on downvotes will be even if you wanna downvotes a user i think it will be good to give a fair warning or advice to such users about how to run their content better and not just downvoting randomly. It will sure discourage such users and probably get pissed off and leave the ecosystem.
i just wanna really talk about the idea of downvoting. Truth in the world of tech, harsh criticism kills the vibe to persist and get results. If downvoting becomes a thing, lots of people might struggle with believe in themselves.
I really want to know about hive witness, is it by building an Hive Dapp or there is something attached to it. I went through Hive gitlab and saw something like node, did I need to run a node before be an hive witness?
witnesses are nodes that runs the transactions, anyone can do that if have machines that could run 24h a day without any internet or power interruption.
This space is going to be one of a kind as I've been wanting to hear thoughts concerning the topics.
We all. have a voice, and being active and staying involved in this space is key.
The downvote feature on the Hive blockchain Is like a double-edged sword, right? On one hand, it can be helpful for maintaining quality content and discouraging spam or plagiarism. But on the other hand, things can get a bit messy when people start misusing the downvote button for invalid reasons.
The governance part of the blockchain is truly needed and they need people to vote their proposals, however, some of them aren't active anymore and clearing them off my list is what I am aiming at and vote others in.
While downvotes is a regulatory use of rewards I think we should have a system to protect authors as well who suffer "bullying" in a sense for the misuse of DV.
Downvotes affect payout but it depends on the weight of the downvote. If someone with a huge hive power worth $50 downvotes your post with say $23, that user who's downvote is worth $50 can remove all your rewards for that post.
As much as the downvote option is good, I feel that the reason behind using it is what matters. I feel like sometimes people use it for a wrong purpose and that has affected some users to a great length to how much they put in to the blockchain.
QUESTION: Are you aware of the international importance of Hive being usable around the world with no extra steps, and the Hive Hubs involving onboarding businesses that thrive on that stability?
Downvote is okay for an abuse but it becomes a concern when hive users are downvoted for no just a reason from the side of the author. With today's technology, detecting a post with plagarism or Ai is simple
I strongly support Rondon view of point about addressing the issue at hand strategically rather than coming up with policies that will draw back what has been built so far.
The downvotes on hive is just a way of caution to the users and engagers. What really intrigued me is how prompt it acts, immediately a spam is detected no need for further scrutiny. Sometimes the errors unconscious
The advent of AI generated post in my opinion pose a threat to content writer and defeat the purpose of having original content on the hive Blockchain, I'm in agreement with hive governance stand to frown against it usage.
Using AI on hive to create content is like cheating others who put in their efforts to bring out the best, AI is not the best way to grow as a blogger on hive, this issue need to be address
Correct. What matters is that people know about the existence of Hive and its proposals, without it being associated with some kind of scam or something like that.
Emphasizing reward on how a content attracts outsiders to Hive is a smart way of maximizing hive user base to market hive. That would be a big incentive to promote Hive.
Yeah, I agree to the fact that people should be downvoted for either writing a fully generated AI content or a plagiarized content, but sometimes we need to guide the users on that first, I can remember I onboarded a newbie where she made a post without using her original picture although she sourced the images used but still got downvoted. That was devasting and she has to even stop blogging on Hive. Let's guide users first before later when we realize it's consistent we can downvote them.
It's a shame your newbie experienced that. That is very bad and quite frankly it would be better to warn and caution new users cos it's easy to know who the new users are. I hope she gets motivated in the future to give hive a second chance
Just let the community know before you and witness get rid of the reward pool so that people know when to say bye felicia!
I never see you talking about 30 USD worth of actifi posts, but now AI is a threat to get rid of entire hive rewards? so in near future you want people to post content for free? and for what on Hive? kumbaya?
There are advantages of downvote, it helps the ecosystem to maintain order however some people use this power in the wrong one, why would someone downvote you because a person they have an issue with upvoted you? It's crazy you know.
I think leo has only just begun to fix this with evergreen and subscriptions. The reward pool and encouraging people to share their posts outside hive isn't mutually exclusive. I think as the projects increase, the rewards will be spread thin and people will pursue other ways of earning (evergreen, subscriptions, selling things on hive)
It's Great to see InLeo working on bringing revenue in hive and only if more frontends does apply the same thing like evergreen and ads revenue could be the best sustainable source for whole ecosystem.
I think one solution for rewards is to attract investors so that all those content creators who put in the effort are supported, currently there are few whales and lots and lots of content creators.
I'm glad we are making effort toward grassroot marketing. We are seeing for ourselves that there isn't much out there in web 2.5/3. It's all hype and pump and dumps.
This conversation is exhausting because it often leads no where.
I’m seriously finding issues with my screenshot icon. I hope it wouldn’t be a problem submitting screenshots that is above higher than the required time. I’ve been on the show for two hours now.
THANK YOU ... FINALLY ... for those who READ CHARTS, this is why. As it is, Hive is highly decentralized and allows everyone THE SAME OPPORTUNITY. Hive is a best-selling item on Amazon now because of that!
In the context of curation trails, how can users effectively utilize downvotes to signal undesirable content and promote better curation standards within a community?
Agree with Eric, if we don't bring more people on we won't last. So build the apps and we can talk about the reward pool once they are built and actually bringing new people on.
I see the need to look at the rewards pool from a different dimensions, looking at what one is focused on building something sustainable without the the target on the current rewards pool. Just this can change mindset.
I really want to appreciate you guys for this. I feel that if we can understand the dynamics of the Reward Pool and optimize its distribution, this will definitely help in supporting the growth and sustainability of Hive's content ecosystem
I think this discussion about the reward pool is just avoiding the unpleasant fact that we have just sucked at outreach and haven't built enough great layer 2 apps yet. The reward pool creates an extra incentive layer to help build them and spread the token further
On the topic of downvote. I have never had an issue with it. I say this because I have been downvoted sometime ago and it did not stop me from making more content on Hive.
Didn't it affect your subsequent articles? I know of a friend that was downvote by someone with high reputation, the subsequent articles kept being automatically downvoted.
It would be good if some of the speakers could tell us if they have had to deal with negative votes and tell us how they solved or handled the situation. And hear about their experiences..
There are many changes that are being done, although the can come with challenges so we should be ready for this, I have heard about so many features that will be added soon and this is amazing, I hope every proposal will be accepted.
We also needs to know that it is not everyone that plays game on Hive.
We all have different opinions on why we are on Hive, so what is the essence of those that are writing and there's no reward for them. We know that play to earn game is different entirely.
The power down time is something that really brings security... it would actually be much easier for a hacker to take everything if he could simply ignore this time by paying a fee... I prefer to wait but be safe!
Very true, self vote and distributing stake to stakeholders is not too different, @edicted makes a good point here. It is even worse since you have to do nothing, you can just put money, forget about it and take it all out later
content creation is not easy and if the curators are only focusing on contents that might attract attention or value, they might miss it because some people don’t do original content and they come in to swoop up all the reward from the pool
I agree with her. Once we have a handful more semi-successful projects on 2nd layer with 10k+ active users, we can talk about slowly phasing out post rewards seriously. Otherwise we shoot ourselves in the foot. Wish i could speak, but I can't use mic now.
Personally, I am working on introducing a friend to our ecosystem, and I was able to stop him in time as he wanted to produce content simply with AI. Interestingly, it was easy for me to detect the pattern, even without a tool.
I want to know if you get notified when you a downvote just like upvote?
Also removal of the reward pool isn't going to do any good besides Hive was built on the basis of rewards and so, a change is definitely not going to do any good
being on these spaces be making me feel like a woman in tech , ha!
But QUESTION: I was on the threadcast when one of you said we can reach out anytime to ask questions. Who is that, please? Name, handle? #question
Absolutely, highlighting aspects that showcase the unique features, innovations, and community-driven nature of Hive can attract more attention to this vibrant blockchain platform
The issue of down vote have become a challenging issue on the hive platform. Many on the platform down vote others for no good reason. Down vote on hive should be used properly.
Give the community deadline of Year 2025. So that existing members can plan their Noah's ark. Then you can get rid of rewards, build dApps and bring new users through onboarding.
Lots of people don't review their witness votes. We need to check every couple of months if the witness is active or inactive. I am a recent witness producing blocks but still behind of lots of inactive witnesses
To me it sounds like users with large stack want to get rid of reward pool because of lazyness. They probably just want to turn their account growth to completely passive. Am I totally off with this one?
It is important to incentivize users to write content with an outside audience and try to reach them with the right use of keywords rather than focus entirely on community tags
Concerning AI generated content of Hive. I thought there are tools already in place to solve that problem. I have seen some accounts getting down voted for using AI and it has discourage alot of users from creating AI generated content.
Rewards with different tokens depending on the tags used is an awesome thing, I mean such rewards spur up more activities in a particular frontend maybe #3speak, #inleo, #ecency etc
Downvotes certainly discourage content creators especially those who are genuinely creating content and get downvoted. Unfortunately, some big accounts still do that.
I think there are so many improvements that need to be made to the hive before major changes.Every day I see people having problems with front ends,with the hiveengine,these are,in a way,things that need to be fixed before major changes.IMO
I am starting to feel the energy of this space, I think it’s going to very impactful to each and everyone of us on space right now, fingers crossed, let’s get this going guys..
I've been having serious concerns on downvotes, the reasons posts are being downvoted and what to do to avoid that, I'm glad this issue is gonna be addressed, like I've been really curious
I doubt if curators intentionally target an author to downvote them, they must have done something wrong like in my case I recycled a post and it was downvoted. I was a newbie then, but the downvote taught me a lesson.
I also think so too, and that should be the reason for having downvotes around. We become more careful as newbies or oldies when we have a little punishment waiting if we mess up 😅 but no, it would be wrong if some authors are intentionally targeted by curators.
Yes, with respect to the DVs, I think it is good that it is something that, in case of a real abuse, protects the pool, but, intimidation, voting negative without any explanation, should not happen.
While the downvoting system is useful for regulating content and rewarding high-quality posts, it can also be used in a malicious way to target certain authors or posts.
Rewarding helps boost the effort of bloggers, removing the reward pools could affect the content and it would take a long time to implement and there would be a strong damage as having reward pools tends to motivate and inspires though.
The use of AI generated images is why some go for AI posts, too. I have seen people use this while they earn more than others who are real with their contents.
Hive needs to grow in creativity. Not machine related contents.
It's so unsettling to see people actually earn well enough for a work they didn't do themselves and I've noticed that posts that are AI generated lack those personal feel that I love to read in contents. I hope we have more original authors than AI authors.
I agree with the with the part where you said you instead of burning down a house because termites invested it, it is better to just take the time to remove the problem instead.
The reward on the blog helps the decentralisation of the chain, so my Question is how do we get creative order than staking reward on the chain? What else can be done to make it a better place?
So the distribution of the reward pools depends on your staking? so it is an APR depending on your size of stake mostly, I am not sure if this model can work never seen it anywhere.
2years ago someone talk about reward pool, reward are distributed through content creation but hive need additional way in which reward will be distribute. I
Remodelling the reward pool for Hive contents is a brilliant move. Time to get every content niche grow. Focusing rewards on community will make Hive grow.
I must admit, for me the average small user, the rewards pool is the rewards pool. We cannot change it and we just deal with any changes that happen as they happen.
uh oh! talking about getting rid of the reward pool again?
I understand the argument, but I think it's such a deep part of Hive's culture. If it were to happen it should be slowly over the course of AT LEAST a year. I think it'd be better to limit the inflation and create more of a market for HBD
honestly I don't really support the Ai or ChatGbt, using that as a content is as worst as copy from someone, because it's not coming from within. It's like your writing for the sake of writing.
In as much as the reasons behind downvotes is understandable, I've seen posts and account which haven't committed any heinous activity being downvoted and that's bad, no legitimate reason for such, I guess some are of bad motives.
it seems sensible that we are constantly looking for solutions even now as we are a small space, because if we are waiting to become big for that to happen then that could be catastrophic
I am agree with the point that we need to start thinking about the AI problem. There is no one size fit all solution, and this is why conversations like this one are important.
Maybe Hive develops an oracle/AI that tracks this these, add disclaimers on posts, something similar to what X does with community notes.
Removing the reward pool won't solve the issue of misinformation, AI generated content, etc
That is actually a very good idea. Something like community notes will draw people's attention to deceitful or unacceptable posts which helps people to not curate such posts. Removing the reward pools totally isn't acceptable to me.
Today the network is driven by rewards, but growing as we assume it will, it becomes a social network like any other... besides, as Khal said a while ago, at a certain point, communities may be able to bring rewards for creation of content within them by itself and the pool will be redirected in a better way.
Removing the reward pool from Hive is going to hurt a lot of people. So far Hive is one of the most genuine platform where you get to earn because of your effort. Most countries from the third world countries rely solely on Hive.
The advent of AI generated post in my opinion pose a threat to content writer and defeat the purpose of having original content on the hive Blockchain, I'm in agreement with hive governance stand to frown against it usage.
downvotes are a kind of bad energy, but without it I think there will be more defaulters on the hive platform. Many users will go against the rules on purpose
If you do not want to remove the Reward pool, what is the way forward with the remodeling? How do you remodel it without Hive losing it’s sense of decentralization?
Admittedly, the rewards pool is the rewards pool for me as the typical modest user. We simply live with any changes that occur as they occur because we are powerless to alter it.
Eric I am sorry to say but there is bright in removing the reward pool. If some people are not OK with the reward pool then they can start refusing to accept rewards from their end.
Question: Downvotes are certainly a source of controversy, but are they really necessary? What I understand from them is that they are to control/decrease post rewards from authors who may be abusing the system, that's important, I understand that, but wouldn't it be something that discourages authors from trying something new too? Is there any other way to control this situation in relation to abuse of the Reward Pool other than downvoting?
Some people are upset to hear someone with Hive influence say that the reward pool should be eliminated. What would be the positives and negatives of this?
OK, if someone has been put on auto downvotes, how can that person come out of that situatsituation or will that person remain being downvoted all through his or her stay on hive
I think downvoting helps deter people from plagiarism in hive but I also think people may use it for personal reasons, but anyway as much as it deters people it might discourage people
I think I support Eric on removing the focus of the reward and focusing it somewhere else but not removing the reward as a whole. Because people will always flow or encourage people to do more like what Eric is saying.
I believe that rather than eradicating the reward pool, I agree with Eric on the need to find ways or metrics to find a content worthy. They should find a balance on how to reward quality and viable contents
Let's think about downvotes as a form of discipline, it is just like punishing a student in school for misbehaving. And of course there's always warning before any punishment.
On remodelling the Reward pool, I think rewarding contents based on traffic brought should be centered on the layer 2 tokens. This will give some more usecases and value to the community based tokens.
Having a reward system encourages creators to put more effort into their posts, knowing that they will be rewarded. Removing this system could take a long time to implement and could cause users to lose interest in the platform.
II believe that Hive will double in the next three years to five years especially with the monthly Hive marketing campaign zealy quest. I envisage more users getting onboard and enjoying the beauty of Hive.
I agree with you on that which means HIVE will get distributed to more people if the rewards pool will still be around by then. It will be interesting to see how things will pan out over the years.
Removing the rewardpools I don't think is the right solution. I believe that a better form of rewarding content creator, authors and active users of hive should be focus. It's really important to understand that encouragement is paramount!
Creating content on Hive and promoting it on Web 2 while bringing traffic to the blockchain is a good idea, and this is what many Hivians are doing on X. Supporting and encouraging these people through incentives will be a motivation to them while continuing in it.
The whole rewards thing is a can of worms. Many authors aren't coming here as they will not be rewarded. Writing I am afraid It is not sexy if you are a new users.
Old users can post shite and it does get silly rewards. Gaming the rewards to get the whale upvotes by posting these pretty travel pictures is an irk. Especially as often those users take their rewards and offramp them off the ecosystem.
I can't agree more. I think most new users find it hard to maintain writing on hive. They spend time writing quality posts but get no reward for it while old users do otherwise and get high rewards.
Yes and it is why I try and support and engage with new or smaller accounts. Not that my vote is worth anything, I just see the rich getting richer and Hive making it harder and harder to get newish users to stay.
Down votes are good for controlling contain abuse on the hive platform, but unfortunately many on the platform abuse it. I saw two hivers down voting each other's post for no just course.
I absolutely hate the cancel culture. I feel like it has gone beyond the original intent and now anybody can find anything offensive and seek its cancellation
AI can be a significant problem if used incorrectly, especially by the lazy. However, we cannot deny that it is a useful tool. Are we the revolution of the web that inhibits technological tools? We need to find an appropriate middle ground.
Aside the downvotes that one will earn from creating ai content, it will surely make you a lazy blogger because you will never think to put up and structure a better content on your own. A blogger need to be creative and not just a writer
Utilisation of AI for content creation on Hive is good but it should be done with caution and responsibility. There should a conscious addition of the human flare.
the view count could be done on second layer frontends. no way to do it on multiple frontends. one of the post form last month got 200 views on one front end and 50 on another and who knows how accurate that is.
Exactly, Hive is an extension of freedom of speech, we must not be nullified this opportunity, we've got the freedom to air out our opinions and that I appreciate
hive is a block chain that I personally advertise to the web 2 users, it just that sometimes they are interest and when they don't get curated they give up, only few of them knows the potential of hive block chain
The rewards pool is just the best way of keeping people glued to the platform. Imagine it is removed, what will be the major aim of engaging. The rules in hive space is as a result of the value it presents.
So, is AI content related okay to use? When I camcame onboard, that wasn't how I saw Hive. I believe the blockchain needs things real not Ai content that brings million views.
Freedom refers to the ability to create and post content without any restrictions or censorship, while upvoting and downvoting are mechanisms for users to evaluate and reward content.
Removing the reward pool is an interesting idea. However the question is how to incentivize users to keep creating and posting content.
A solution is to have a layer 2 reward system and zero base layer reward pools
Giveaway posts are the same as low-effort posts, creating post with a link only for example, I saw a bit nowadays. Just something like " hey this article is interesting".
Correct me if I am wrong is Hive not a decentralized platform for users to share content and get their voices heard. It won't be decentralized anymore if rewards pools are taking away.
#Question: Reward pool... Using of AI will be a big reason why reward pool have to be removed from content. Because I think the more people use AI there won't be a original content that worth of rewards
Surely Hive has the best reward pool system. I love the staking system most. By staking we can grow our career in here. Even we can curate others to encourage them.
AI's are not original contents and as such, anyone who makes use of AI generated content are obviously not original contents and shouldn't be given credits.
AI is best for researches.
AI is a tool for assistance as I understood but I don’t understand when we classify AI as a means of plagiarism which would lead to Downvote, when do you classify AI as being wrong on HIVE?
I agree that Hive is an extension of our freedom of speech. Most of my posts are based on real-life experiences. Things I experience in the outside world
That's why I see Hive as a safe space for me where I can bare out my feelings.
Definitely, AI should be used as a tool and not an opportunity to leverage on it to farm rewards but I think a team should be put in place to monitor contents infused with AI rather than punishing everyone
AI is meant to be of assistance to us but I wonder how people do copy and paste and actually not their own ideas or suggestion. AI tends to over shadow our brain abilities and that bad
Downvoting AI generated posts is a nice move and I also support it big time, Ai is meant to be a tool to assist content creators not used to generate a whole post and at the end of the day, there is ownership and reward claims, very bad.
Community policing solves all these problems with AI content on Hive and checking the actions of bad actors. We can incentive people to protect the change and make it transparent. Hivewatchers does a great job but I think it is better if we make it open to everyone to protect the change and we can get rid of the dreaded downvotes
Removing reward because of not being able to have a high stake wount be encouraging. Yeah! Hive is web 3 and we have freedom here. I still want to ask, if the content Creator's participate in voting the witnesses, what's there benefits
AI is a powerful tool for many different uses. I mainly use it for brainstorming and generating ideas. Then I as a human picks up those ideas, research and develop them into a quality ever-green content. Using AI to game the rewards pool is something that is entirely wrong as long as I am concerned.
Imagine zealy marketing be like come to hive we have rewards..
then just to cause drama in townhall, there comes a witness that says get rid of hive rewards and ask users to play ubuntu and kumbaya and post for free and monetize on Layer 2.. nice.
Removing the reward pool on hive is something I will never support. Reason is that hive is still a growing platform and needs more users. The reward pool is changing lives around the and helping us recruit more users.
I total agree with the last speak that there should be some form of reward for users who shares their content outside the hive Blockchain,that on its own is a marketing and awareness strategy d attract more people,I hope this is encouraged
Hello it's best to learn here as per how the downvote is actually going to be in the nature. If it going to be more as that of upvote , or it going to get effected upon breaking rules?
While the reward pool is presently what it is, the most important thing for me is it being used to promote Hive. Like the #Hiverally where Ruben got sponsored for his photography skill. Still learning what I can about its distribution thou.
The AI tool really sounds great if Ai would determine the rewards, I believe there will exist some equity and equilibrium on the reward system. However, the AI will have to be a very top notched coding with a strong security system.
Yeah, I do agree with that as well, AI should be used as a tool in adding more value and also making our content look exceptional. But then we need to be careful from copy and paste directly from the Ai generated post as our own content, I think the Hivewatchers have indicated that if you wish to publish an ai generated content, you should cancel the rewards and also indicate that in your post as well. That is pretty cool but you will earn nothing for that so it will just be a cosine 90 degree work, lol. Hahaha, just be creative and write from your own mind and earn rewards instead of wasting your time and energy in publishing ai generated content.
The problem is not the use of artificial intelligence to make posts, but how it is done. It should be used as a tool to help solve problems that we humans have, such as lack of creativity. 1 🧵
or to help remember words and/or synonyms that help make the post better to read. When we use it to make an entire post, modifying just a few words, then we face a problem. 2 🧵
Hive Rewards given to Authors is a boost to them and serve as a way of encouragement to show how much you care. I want to learn more on Space, improve my writing skills and learn new techniques too especially on how to use AI.
I am new in Hive Blockchain. I am so glad that I got a platform like this. I didn't even imagine that we can get paid for our article, blogs or stuffs. Thanks to the community.
I still wanna deliberate on wrong downvotes, it's always disheartening. How about there be a check for every downvotes, looking out for reasons for the downvotes to see if they're genuine and right
I was thinking any form of AI assisted post was prohibited on hive.
It's scary to see those downvotes on people's posts. So I avoided any form of AI assistance.
I will love to have a clear understanding this topic.
is that how hive vote. They Watch the hive a blog can bring before they hive their vote? I’m not really sure but the reward pool should be something that every one can benefit from
It can be disheartening to see people who use AI images and text earning more than those who create original content. This is supposed to be looked into.
yeah I think the idea of promoting Hive through getting people involved even when they are not necessarily on hive using the reward as key way of inviting people is really good.
Maybe going forward AI based tools can be used to help generate keywords or suggest keywords & topics around which the creators can write an organic post so that it helps in getting featured on search engines and brings in views and interactions to the blockchain
Monetization of AI contents cannot help grow Hive. It would noe become a thing of more number of posts than actual human engagement which is what we need.
I love the perspective Khal, let the reward pool be fair, not selfish gain, it's time to spread stakes and add more value to the ecosystem not only the state holders. Great one Khal
While we go on and on saying Hive is a decentralized platform, sometimes alot of things that go down here does feel like a centralized platform and in all honesty that defeats what Hive stands for.
Those people using Ai to make a blog or content here is kinda lazy and dumb. I feel sorry and sad for those people who make effort executing great and original quality content but they feel unseen and unmotivated getting with less rewards
If only authors that plagiarize with the use of AI know they can use AI to do so much more that would be of help towards their improvement on writing on hive to gain honest upvote.
I agree that users who write entirely artificial intelligence (AI) stuff or plagarise contents be downvoted, however it would be great if onboarders inform newcomers of this before registering them in Hive.
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I don't see the reason why downvote is needed in the hive blockchain. It looks like oppression to the weak ones. A correction via the comment section would do all the magic.
Seriously though, I think content has been valuable, it's been bringing most of the activity to the chain and keeping most of the user base. But it leaks out too easily and we have all sucked at outreach and building circular systems up until very very recently.
The fact that downvotes is what we are talking about is something that I'm glad about. Some people scares us online because of their power of downvotes. Something like this happen some months ago when two people are fighting, there are lots of people that suffer from this downvotes.
Imagine a post of 4 dollars upvotes and six dollars downvotes
I’m not sure but from what I heard from the speaker, the blog has to be valuable before they can be partake of the reward pool. So what does qualify someone for the reward pool and how do they know what value to give ?
Could the increase in the period for claiming rewards, if adjusted to 10 days, provide greater stability for the network, or would it not be worth it due to the volatility of HIVE?
What passes for a valuable post is subjective and then how do we fix that? Because I feel like a post may be valuable to its creator but the audience may not feel the same
The idea by Khal makes a lot of sense. It would be objectifying the idea of impact of content linked to the quality it has. You'd be doing something quite interesting. #hive #web3
Question: We know that witnesses are a super important part of Hive, but I've always been curious to know why the number of witnesses who sign most of the blocks or make decisions, such as the % of HBD's APR is exactly 20 witnesses, how was this number decided? Would there be any side effects if it were changed to 10 or 30 for example? Could this make anything worse or better about everything at Hive?
the value and originality of an AI generated post can't match that of a content written by a person ,as much as an AI generated post poses threat to content writing it makes work easier, but I'll rather choose originality
Contents should be valued based on the money generated by attracting more page view. But how can we know the views are genuine and true, not mere generated.
I think we should focus more on improving the value of second layer tokens, it would reduce the dependence on Hive as a reward token. Each community should create more utility for their tokens.
I wouldn't mind phasing out 1st layer rewards over a very long time frame, over the course of like 5 or 10 years, which will allow for Hive to continue to attract creators without causing any shock to the system. The second layer isn't developed enough and there aren't enough players. Not even close
I feel removing the reward pool would not exactly be a good thing. A lot of people who join hive (atleast from this part of the world) like the fact that one can make use of hive and earn something from creating content.
Determining the value of a content doesn't entirely sound like a bad thing. The question is, is there a way to.dertermine that? Looking at the long run, will it be of great benefit to Hive? Will there be a disadvantage to it?
So far, I will agree that many contents on Hive are underutilized and others are over utilized. If we can design a model that rates content using defined variables, it can be better
I'm beginning to fall in love with this space show, the topics are incredible, good news is coming to proofofbrain and I'm seeing massive adoption in that aspect
for me I will say the reward pool is quite good, but if their anything to increase it, it's also welcome, but for now, every aspect of rewarding user's in the Blockchain is pretty cool and awesome and inleo is doing so much to increase it too which is awesome.
Hey man, I strongly agree with you on this, I also the love reward pool, good, and we are also open to any further increments, but I think the reward pool is quite awesome the way it is, no removal should made in terms of the reward pool
Content creation really is just one form of distribution... But, it's the main one, right? Most people at Hive just produce content. So I think there should be greater attention paid to producers in general, regardless of the niche.
Absolutely, sustainability is a critical aspect for the long-term success and acceptance of blockchain technology, including platforms like Hive. It's essential to explore and implement eco-friendly solutions
I do see some upvotes done on content that it payout has elsaped, now my concern is, how important or are those rewards still going to be given to the author.
Maybe the statistics or impressions is a way to change the rewarding system and will encourage more engagement. At the end of the day, hive wants to thrive on engagement and more engagement = more rewards will encourage users to engage
this is tough, but coming to look at it, do you really think we have enough user database to achieve this idea. Even at that, how and who would then vote for the witnesses because they need us to get approval because it is dependent on the hivers
Evergreen content reward algorithm designed by INLEO would make a lot of difference and impact in the Hive reward pool. This is because it rewards Content beyond the 7-day payout window. I don't think this is applicable on 3Speak.
i think this plays to the fact that there is a social layer in this chain. so it's important to get people to know, like and trust you. that seems to attract the most engagement which in turn, creates potential for more rewards.
upvote is a form of engagements and strengthen the ecosystem. It add value to the content and interaction by the users. It is a form of which tokens are distributed
This is a problem that people can face, which is the 7 days to receive votes only. This is not the case on Web2 platforms, where a video can earn money for years and years, and this can end up driving influencers away from our network.
I must say content creator need a Decentralized platform to share their stuffs. We don't need to be controlled by any central authority. Hive is the best DeFi platform.
Original content no doubt get rewards because readers fill motivated to read and know more about the topic because is something they might have heard before
I agree with stackers. Distribution is key. We need hive in as many hands as possible. This is what I think we should prirotise. We can come up with more efficient ways to distribute the token without disrupting the system. The key word here for me is efficiency.
The method used by 3speak is the best and amazing because, it is simple and straightforward, your content has a direct relationship with the reward.(statistically driven concept)
I had issues with 3speaks some weeks ago, my post was upvoted and also was deducted a few minutes later, can I ask what was the problem, what am I not doing right.
The quality contents on pinmapple is high? I'm really gonna check out and get to know more about it. Communities with high quality contents is worth being supported
The negative votes will always be a fundamental part in Hice as it helps to maintain order and avoid abuse on the platform, only that some people take it personally without at least talk or resolve before. Many of us live on Hive.
Am happy I heard about rewards the more effort we put the more rewards we gain or get, this is amazing. And rewards I will say motivates users to do more and be active, including engaging fully, and this is what we want here on hive.
I keep on asking, did we still need the downvoting system on hive, I sincerely think their is no need for that, contents that looks fishy can be ignore or such users get mute, bringing in downvote is not really a way forward base on my opinion.
alright, this might be controversial but why don't proposals get as much sticks or scrutiny as content on hive. I have seen a few rubbish proposals approved and back.
If we are going the efficiency route we need do so holistically. One of the reason people people do not trust the system is because it is seen to favour a few.
If people are trying to bring value to hive with their content, how will admins know the different between an original blog and an organic content. Will there be tools in place to know the good content
Good she talks about users with automatic vote, now here comes my view, do we still need that in the Blockchain or what level will a users attain on the Blockchain for them to get to the level of getting upvote automatically, irrespective of what they posted
I concur with the last speaker that people that publish their content outside of the hive blockchain ought to receive some sort of compensation.That itself is a marketing and publicity tactic to draw in more to Hive
there are certainly a lot of things to be done before removing the rewards pool... we have to have something really functional and that allows for large-scale growth... today it would be difficult to attract new users without the rewards pool, mainly because even if people understand and like the value of hive, they would give up at the first infrastructure difficulties without the pool
Rather than getting rid of the reward pool as an incentive tool, we should be focusing on increasing the ways you can earn hive from "posts", threads, shorts, livestreams, etc.
The downvote is a great tool, although that many try to creat educational content that can be of great impact to readers, but their are still some who makes post that contradict the rules of hive, so those post should have a downvote.
Agree with Khal here, we can potentially move away from post rewards once we build up new incentive models and monetary flow on Hive. First we need to develop that in a big way and on a bunch of different project
The real problem is when they are abused or abused personally, without any justification. Sometimes, it would be favorable to know why negative votes are given in order to improve the errors.
I still don't want to believe some AI generated content do get upvote in the community, if it happens, I think that's where downvote needs to come in , for no reason should an AI generated content get upvote in the Blockchain
This would only make Hive more centralized and make it more and more like other networks that have tried and failed to build what is built here!
In my opinion, what needs to be done is to build more infrastructure and improve the one we have in order to grow. Without infrastructure, no matter what remuneration model Hive has, at some point it will fail.
What we have is unique and of course it's still flawed. But what we need to improve is more infrastructure.
Hive is diverse and I really love the ability to do a lot of things. Staking on layer 2 tokens, earning hive tokens, engagement and also getting rewards back in return. I see it as an investment opportunity too.
Tokens are given both to big whales and small whales despite the inflation rate. Contents rewarded based on 7 days is recommended in the system. A good idea as your value is noticed.
Definitely, I agree with her, hive is changing life in many ways, taking hive Ghana as an example, lot of projects has being put in place as a result of the reward pool, so removing it, won't that affect their projects
Yes that’s true. Am from Ghana and we are doing a lot with hive. We have the note home project and the hive students have project as well. We visit schools and talk to them about hive and this has changed lives as well as the boreholes.
It's a 2 way solution, one good and one bad. I believe that it is necessary to be able to regulate the rewards of a post, therefore, we discourage the author who wants to abuse the hive from continuing to do what he does. It can also be something that scares those who really do the right job.
Exactly, we have a good way to control and bypass those who want to find a way to make easy money, but even so, intelligence when using dv is necessary! A hug.
What strategies can be employed to balance the use of downvotes in a curation trail, ensuring constructive criticism without discouraging content creators or stifling diverse perspectives
it was unfortunate that I did not attend the town hall talk. I'm just waiting for the next, if any. And I was so grateful to have listened to some of the ideas in the recap
I am of the opinion that people should do as they see fit with their tokens. If the platform generates more revenue it won't matter if people power up or not.
Also we can educate people on the importance of powering up and distributing rewards to better improve content discovery and token distribution
of course they can do what they want with their tokens. I just think it’s a little foolish for people to be playing with shitcoins (as many do) when they hardly put any money into the coin they use the most, and often sell it instead. I used to, til I realized Hive had more staying power and was underhyped rather than overhyped.
one of the many assumptions we have is that people are selling their hive/InLeo for other coins. That might be true but not for everyone. For instance, I sell mine for fiat to cover my expenses. This is more like a job to me than an investment (although it is both).
The bottomline is we mostly cannot control what people do with their token but we can do is create circular economies around hive and InLeo. This way the value retains within the hive ecosystem.
I get it. I’m not talking about everyone here. I’m talking about the people constantly seeking the next 100x token, as if they’ll catch it or as if it couldn’t be Leo or Hive. I have seen too many people on chain who lost money on projects or scams they read up on for 5 minutes. You are right though. I’m just encouraging more people to put their money where their mouth is. If you need the money to eat, then you are doin just that.
Yeah, I get your point. We all cannot be chasing moon coins. Hive is promising. All the recent efforts to build and promote the chain goes to show that we really mean business.
It's better to focus on one thing or a few things than chasing everyone. I have learnt this much as well. This way, you are able to commit the time, energy and resources needed to grow.
lol I wonder! I see a lot of people always seeking the next 100x coin and gambling their money away rather than building their hive , Leo and bitcoin stacks. To each their own (I went through that phase too), but after 7 years in the space, I feel like the only reason to invest in something that you aren’t really familiar with is if you wanna be a full time professional day trader
We're making tons of progress on our onboarding goals. Really awesome to see and we've got 2 new official influencers onboarded as ambassadors for INLEO on X
Excited to see them bring in hundreds of new faces to INLEO over the next 3 months
i haven't been on my A-game mainly because I am planning my wedding and that's all I can think of these days. However, from January i will be giving my 100%.
Planning on starting a podcast, possibly with my wife and just take my content game to the next year. That's goal.
All the best in the preparations for the wedding that’s going to go beautifully as planned and can not wait to see the fire you will come with there after.
Yeah @nonsowrites, I was very lucky that my parents loved entertaining and planning and throwing parties.
That's awesome. You're a great fiance too.
Enjoy!
Have a great day😆
!ALIVE
!BBH
!CTP
@nonsowrites! You Are Alive so I just staked 0.1 $ALIVE to your account on behalf of @ lisamgentile1961. (8/20)
The tip has been paid for by the We Are Alive Tribe through the earnings on @alive.chat, feel free to swing by our daily chat any time you want, plus you can win Hive Power (2x 50 HP) and Alive Power (2x 500 AP) delegations (4 weeks), and Ecency Points (4x 50 EP), in our chat every day.
@rmsadkri! You Are Alive so I just staked 0.1 $ALIVE to your account on behalf of @ lisamgentile1961. (6/20)
The tip has been paid for by the We Are Alive Tribe through the earnings on @alive.chat, feel free to swing by our daily chat any time you want, plus you can win Hive Power (2x 50 HP) and Alive Power (2x 500 AP) delegations (4 weeks), and Ecency Points (4x 50 EP), in our chat every day.
There is a trail that Khal carries but he manually upvotes. He upvotes premium accounts but that does not mean he is not upvoting non premium accounts. I upvote everyone I interact with.
maybe that's not what's happening and I may have mistranslated thing, but would be a breath of fresh air to keep comments curated rather than automating it.
Mmm maybe there is people voting on threads and they see a lot of premium accounts since most of the really active users are premium now, but there is no trail or automation on the premium accounts.
I didn't know there were autovotes on threads.
However it is always good to have different opinions within a community.
The whole reward voting thing is a complex issue. Like why are travel blogs generally the most rewarded and often those people take most of their Hive out of ecosystem?
I think I may have received some thread autovotes, but not for being premium. I think it's usually a vote trail from one user or other. I would get those rare trails even prior to upgrading to premium. I don't think it's a premium feature.
I have just been showing up to vote. I post a thread occasionally but I've been on hive since day 1. I find that I go in spurts and I'm not too hard on myself
Unless you’ve been hiding under the ring you should know that WOO Land is live & is getting closer to being used in game (allowing players to earn rewards). Here's some WOO Land things im excited about:
Llega Diciembre 🎅🏻 y con ello, las costumbres navideñas 🎄, cada barrio, tiene las suyas. En el mío, la vuelta a la manzana con la maleta 🧳, el 31/12, es obligatoria! 😂 y en tu caso?
It's frustrating staying in an area with no electricity. I am depending on my power bank with 80% battery and my phone is at 23%. Trying to preserve for my journey back to my base tomorrow. I still have things to do on my phone and if not, I might just pause all activities for now.
#gmfrens
A great way to end the month of November with a level 2 Gold Larissa Kerato. The burn value of this card is 50,000 $DEC or 135.733 SWAP.HIVE or 48.86 USD.
Humans are inherently dynamic beings, we grow, change, and evolve throughout our lives. Do you ever think it's possible for two people to stay faithful to each other for their entire lives?
#ladiesofhive #relationships
of course, I think it is a hundred percent possible to stay faithful together in a relationship. Firstly you'll need to understand a whole lot of principles.
Know what your partner loves the most and have those features in you.
sometimes people get to change, and you discover you don't understand him/her anymore.
Those principles may become a burden at this point.
Anyway, they call it love
Well, you're right. One of the reasons why people change is purpose. Every relationship has a purpose or expectation so when those purpose or expectations aren't met they tend to depart.
So, know the purpose of the relationship, what type of relationship are you building with a person, is it for benefits or forever.. it's up to the duo's
Yep. It’s up to the people involved.
Proper communication and understanding is important from the onset of any relationship.
Thank you so much for stopping by.
I think it’s possible though. Change is the most constant thing in life so it is paramount to happen. But I have seen people who stay faithful and true. For instance most couples. It takes a lot but it happens.
You are right. Change is normal.
I've also seen old couples staying true to themselves.
It requires understanding, honesty, and love to achieve that.
Thanks for stopping by❤️
I don’t know if it’s natural, but I do like loyalty and cooperation and building something over time so I promise my partner that. As for attraction to other people, we manage it as we go along. I actually wrote about this recently. Very controversial ideas in there 😆
It is possible, but fidelity-- as with anything else-- has to grow, change, and evolve. If partners in a relationship stay static, that's asking for trouble later.
We can't forget the wrong that was done, but we can choose not to hold it against the other person. Relationships are like ships: both need to be steered, and both need constant course corrections.
You are right. Supporting and correcting each other is very important in a long-term relationship.
I'm learning everyday🥰.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
It's one thing to use a sharing platform that's full of bugs, but a whole other level of #trust when an exchange is full of them as well. I want to buy $LEO, but #tribaldex is so off and on I'm scared. #crypto #staking
Though you often have to refresh several times to get things to show up properly, Hive Engine seems to be working correctly for buying/selling. Haven't tried tribaldex lately.
Smart people have manipulated and used debt as a stepping ladder to accumulate wealth. I think it is more about how to use the tool that is available to you. #finance
Musk could take a page from D Gab playbook & build out everything from scratch. Gab was almost cancelled N2 oblivion; it ended up setting up its own data centers, payments processing systems, & subscription systems. Gab is still out there.
It won't matter how much is done by X if its cloud space disappears. AWS operates part of X-cloud. 2day they get along. If AWS pulls plug on X, Musk is screwed. Musk will need 2build his own data centers. He can still get cancelled by VISA.
as a Hiver, you have a responsibility to vote for the witnesses that secure the blockchain... people often overlook this as they voted in the past and never looked at it again.
you should check which witnesses have updated price feeds... which ones are actively posting updates... which ones are speaking up.
it's time to re-evaluate who you're voting for. steempress has shut down and still has tons of votes. not sure how to check the witnesses you're voting for? check below.
still the same ever since the rebranding - can’t vote using my mobile and I’m very rarely on my laptop, so my juicy delegation mainly sits there unused 🙈
I’m using Keychain app on both of my iPhones.Also LeoAuth in my safari browser - both ways I’m not able to vote.Logged out and back in many times, as this has been happening since rebranding😉When I click 💙:
I sure log out and back in about 10 times since this first happened. I think it’s since rebranding Im not able to to vote on mobile. When I click on 💙 this happens
This is what it takes to receive 1 HBD/day in interest at the varying rates. Now we are at 20% so it only takes 1825 #hbd in savings to get the 1/day. #hive #leo #themoreyouknow
super useful. I don’t really see a reason to hold HBD asi feel my activity on hive earns much more than that, but for those who are not that active on hive and still want to earn, it’s a great great way
I’ll be holding a lot more hbd once I feel hive is overbought, and we are far from that. I feel like hive has at least a 50% upside coming in the next year, can’t pass on that 😛 once we pump crazy though im moving half of it to HBD
Yeah I have HORRIBLE timing when I try that so I tend to stick with what is working and just feel annoyed I didn't give it a go. Like almost every time I convert I get burned by price changes soon after. 🙄
I get it. I have target prices that I’ll sell at, otherwise I just sit on my hive 70-80% powered up. Funny though my btc target price last cycle was 70k hahahahahahha
You have about double the savings I do so makes sense. It's really a no-brainer to keep stacking in savings at this rate. Looks like need 6K hbd to get 3.3/day interest for 100/month at 20% rate
The savings interest is just extra on top of what I get daily from posting/commenting. For some it is better for their funds to be liquid and others are fine staking.
Pages are going to be very important for Music on Leo. This will be the focus of mine over the next 5 days. Will give an update on the #cryptomaniacs show on Tuesday.
Looks like the reply from the GM bot is the way to determine if your #gmfrens tag has successfully "mined" you the GM token (just like the HBIT bot while it was working). 🤔🤓
Imagine if you had 5-10 of the people you talk to in the real world on inleo threads. It certainly will change how you use the platfrom. I encourage everyone to invite people they know here. That's how social media started.
sadly most people I know either are too suspicious of anything you promise will make money or are too engrained in a routine or way too active elsewhere to try out a new kind of social media. Hopefully one day I drag a few people over
There investors, day traders and gamblers. Which one are you?
I put my money where my mouth is. Since I didn’t want to treat day trading as a full time job, I put everything into what I believe in: Bitcoin, Hive and Leo
I should also note that I’m a degen too. A degen holder. I put 50%+ of everything I have into hive. At one point 80% was in Hive. That is kind of insane and I will be the first to admit it!!
Well, yeah...when you put it that way. For someone looking in outside the box, HIVE is just another alt with a narrative. Just like every other coin. 🙂 Hive is also a big part of my portfolio. Moving out of HBD position though.
I know the people who make hive what it is, not all of them but many of them. I can’t say that for any other coin out there. I also don’t see anything that survives and adapts as well as hive and I don’t know any other token that forked out its founders stake. That’s really special.
All true. I'm so scattered over the whole space with eggs and baskets but I do consider Hive to be a sort of a safe haven cos of those things you mentioned. I think the space needs places like that. It's like home. 😊
You must be killin' it out here! @dynamicrypto just slapped you with 5.000PIMP, @selfhelp4trolls. You earned 5.000PIMP for the strong hand. They're getting a workout and slapped 2/3 possible people today.
I am a trader. I do not gamble in the markets. My approach is very calculated and guided by my mechanical trading strategy. This is a business, not a casino!
Rebellion is like a breath of fresh air to the Splinterlands ecosystem.
It is the first card set that will have a burning system scheduled into its sale,
-it is the first card set that will have entirely new abilities, new Summoner tactics, new Summoners with dual element,
-The Rebellion set is the first set that the airdrop system will be revamped with the introduction of "Conflicts," where players stake unopened Rebellion packs and cards to earn airdrop rewards,
-Rebellion set is also the first set with a new CEO on seat and that’s Yabapmatt himself with a new team,
Rebellion is also the 5th card set of the Splinterlands game. The essence of 5 in numerology is all about embracing change and seeking new adventures.
It's time to post long form post. Already had a draft I was about publishing on onthenode yesterday, but changed my mind after reviewing the platform properly. It's better to fish in a river you are used to no matter how wide and deep it may be, than trying to swim in a shallow water.
Kickin' about Angkor Wat in Cambodia… got there for sunrise so an early tuk-tuk ride for that, then headed off on a tour of more temples. Walked a lot of miles that day 👣
I think my newest hobby is, to listen to spaces and AMAs I missed.
Feel you there! Timezones do not help either. Everything important crypto-related happens when I sleep. I am constantly reacting...
yeah i was getting frustrated with that.
i started using beeswap. it works. but i am still getting use to the interface.
Never going back to those other front-ends #beeswap
only if they have an LP i think.
but you can always convert to swap.hive.
it is not as full featured as tribaldex but has been working for me while those front-ends are struggling.
So listening to the Jack Mallers podcast the other day on Fountain, made me realize how insane maxis are...
In this August show with Barstool Sports' Dave Portnoy, this guy literally told Dave that smart people never spend $BTC and people that have bitcoin never want to use it and spend it.
What a clown show....I mean, what's the point of it other than store of value?
Maybe someone smarter than me can explain to me how this makes any sense.
Their idea is copying what happened at the 19th to 20th century turn. In Manhattan. Hold until the asset moons. Then take loans out against it. They don't care about using it just hoarding it. Old world trying to corrupt new tech.
Yeah man, they play this altruistic card but in practice, they just want to hoard it all for themselves.
That is what i think.
I use LTC and Hive/HBD for all my currency transactions with other people.
Yup, same here. LTC is a much better bridge to get in and out of Hive for me if I ever need it. But I dream of the day, where everything is HBD lolol
I dream of that also, but until then. We will keep doing the LTC. taken care.
Right, it's the Buy, Borrow, Die strategy.
They don't know how silly they sound pushing these narratives. Why own something you don't use? Is it a trophy? I do not believe in these supposed legacy chains and their minnows. The space is changing rapidly and it will surprise them when move away from the bitcoin narrative.
It's insanity. This stuff is supposed to change the world, but instead we are just going back into greed. I think that's why I love this chain so much, most of us WANT everyone to get it and use it.
I kinda see the maxis point about bitcoin potentially becoming like a new kind of protocol of money that underlies everything in the future or being one among a “basket of goods” that become the mix reserve currencies. I wouldn’t use Bitcoin now. I think maxis are maxis for the same reason I am a hive maxi. Most stuff is shit and they don’t have the time to sift through all of it or have given up already.
Listen to Jeff Booth. I think he makes a sound argument, whether it’s right or not.
Just go spend all your money on bitcoin and lock it up in the safe you have no money or a place for. Sounds like a plan. lol
Yeah, those guys would really dislike me since I've spent BTC and will spend it to buy altcoins that increase in value faster. 😬
i own pretty much....zero bitcoin lol
Same. It has a habit of burning holes on my pockets
I flipped what I had left into Hive when we did the hardfork.
Nice move!
When Bitcoin goes up I sell what I have and buy Hive, HBD, and Leo which I make more fron than Bitcoin
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Here are my reward for this #splinterands season, what about your's ?
Nice you got great reward !
How many chests ?
Thanks! 42 chests. :)
Hive Community Town Hall #3
When: Friday, Dec 1st at 11am EST
#threadcast
Add your takes, comment and ask questions!
Khal has made a good point. We need to attract money into the Hive ecosystem rather than have money escape. We need to provide value to change the flow, not cut rewards.
Will review my witnesses again, thanks for the reminder.
Damn! Task is killin it, just said a lot of the things I've been saying in the comments with his own twist, thanks @taskmaster4450le
we have so many intelligent people on hive I believe if we work together we can build something
I wonder how many top 20 witnesses on #hive are in this Space
I also wonder if the ones who aren't here consistently should continue to be in the top 20
Gladly we can vote based on that too 😉 Migth just review my votes after this...
Question for you Khal, what do you think is important for a whitness to get community support? And what needs to be done to get your support and that of INLEO?
I think this idea of using part of the rewards pool to reward pageviews or traffic would be really amazing. Right now, we have limited views for quality content especially from outside of hive. If we really want to grow and become a global brand, then we need a way to attract that external traffic which would boost hive use as a blockchain.
Every year we talk about attracting investors and entrepreneurs on hive but how has that worked for us?
You discard the demographic that actually want to use your chain and pursue those who don't
We will learn eventually
No we wont lol
#question we need better ways to gauge valuable contributions on Hive. What are ways from a developers perspective can we make that happen? If we know what content does best, we can tailor our content to achieve that.
that's a little bit of trial and error. rolling up the sleeves and seeing what works for attracting eye balls!
I am not talking about attracting Hive eyeballs. I mean ways to gauge traffic we are receiving from outside of the platform. That's how we will be become relevant
Congratulations for putting up a great show. Very much a learning experience.
Hopefully such Spaces would be awesome to highlight the issues and look for the best possible solutions.
This is the how a community grow together.
Every Hive powerup is good to contribute to the governance.
Hope to see you soon!
QUESTION
I would like to hear from you what you think of the role assigned to HW? Do they fulfill the function for which DHF pays them? Is it necessary to have 1 or more "groups" to do this control as Hive grows?
I haven't had any personal interaction with them. I know it's a hot topic. I think on the surface, it's a project that was always designed to keep the blockchain clean. I hope that will always be the focus.
Someone really needs to do the work to keep Hive clean and prevent abuse. Thanks for giving your point of view!
i think thats what the original mission was for all these type of projects. hope it gets back to what it's intended to be, and not personal opinion about what deserves rewards and what doesnt.
I've interacted with them primarily on behalf of other members. Essential project, but the implementation has been questionable from my personal POV. I think there may be better options for how it can be run, but it's going to require the involvement of more individuals.
I think I'd actually like to see either a larger amount of people running this type of project (for the purpose of decentralization / consensus) or possibly have someone assigned to each community so that each community could decide how to use this type of project. Easier said than done, of course. I think there's an essential role for them on the chain - if implemented properly.
Question
Should we have a separate section for AI generated content?
What bothers me, while some planktons strive to do right, Ive seen abuse from certain curators of whale accounts farming votes on Alts & claiming it belongs to relative. Also Hive user & anti-abuse bot dev @YAZIRIS is highly underrated.
Removing the reward pool on the Hive blockchain doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Rewards are definitely a big motivation for many of us to be here, but it's not the only reason. We also care deeply about the growth and development of our community. Plus, there are lots of people who rely on Hive as their main source of income.
That's the issue ... you are DETACHED, sir. But one does not have to be detached to think logically. And, AGAIN, this is not a game for most people -- Splinterlands cannot be the model for Hive changing lives.
Question
Is it possible for users that were blacklisted to be forgiven and be part of the reward pool? I feel blacklisting shouldn't last forever but for a duration of time.
one would hope so. i hope there are much better appeal processes in place.
Coming to the reward pool on hive. Is really helping drive hive to a brighter space in the cryptosphere. Hive is changing live in many places in country and is drawing more people to itself through the reward pool.
please please curators do a lot of hard work. It is not our fault that there are a few decent creators.
As to auto vote, that can be fixed with code.
I agree there may be a few decent creators but I think the whole idea is for curators to go out of their way to find new decent creators
as a curator, I speak for myself, I do the work. And to be frank, there isn't much out there but that's because if the model we have adopted overtime. This conversation is quite nunance
Auto vote should be removed in my opinion.
i agree but guess what? That's not been talked about, why? Just guess 😏
Currently the Splinterland curators have been taking curating more seriously for some time now so that all those who make an effort to create content are supported and those who don't are pushed aside.
Congratulations for putting up such a Great Townhall show. It was an exciting and a very Educative Experience.
Question
What does the panel think about posting your content on multiple platforms and blockchains. Should users be encouraged or punished.
Alternatively should we have post on hive first policy and rest it is up to the user to repost as it is their content.
when i was messing with torum and noise cash a few years ago, i created unique content for every platform.
I have a question about Hive-engine. Does the Hive engine exist in the Coin market cap? Is it valuable for the crypto market? Are bear and bulls affect the Hive Engine tokens?
nah this is why decentralized exchanges are so important. right now, all that's on the centralized ones is HIve.
Question
How do you think a feature like statistic-driven rewards affect new users coming up to #hive to create content?
#threadcast #question
i personally think rewards are very important. new users have a chance to actually earn some here, instead of having to buy into positions like on other chains.
Yes, and this question came up with the whole discursion of removing the reward pool and using some other kind of system.
Question!
Am glad you you have 3Speak in the house.
I made videos and posted to 3speak for more than 2 months without a single vote from 3speak.
@3speak, What inspires you curation?
they have been fantastic at supporting the community. i think Matt mentioned it's a bunch of factors, not just creation. but also the traffic and engagement the video receives.
Yes, I heard him when he reacted.
However, it's surprising that they didn't visit any of the videos I made on a daily basis for more than 2 months.
I had to stop because uploading the videos were costing me so much
i think everything will improve, especially once spk network gets off the ground!
I hope so.
Your replies are very suiting.
Thank you.
Question
I read something on 3speak that suggested that to stand a chance to be curated, you should get more views on your vlogs. I wanted to find out what the window of views is from time of publishing your vlog to time of curation.
Apt: no other the multiple accounts, hivers recognize each as an individual not a bot.
Question
On the other hand, is it possible to fake views in #hive?
i'm sure different front ends can monitor the traffic, and be able to sniff out artificial traffic.
Please, I want to recommend the effort of the inleo team. I also want to point out that we can do better with the UI because sometimes preview on threads do show until after some minutes. This discourages engagement on thread. #suggestion
Sure, the second layer can be simpler than first layer, it can all be about 2nd layer, but only Splinterlands is mature enough for that right now. Leo maybe in a few months. Give me 10 more of those before we talk about removing the rewards pool
Weldon Arcange!
The decentralized nature of hive is really one thing I love about hive. People love it when they see they can own their information and data. The decentralized layer of hive s driving it far in the cryptosphere.
Thank you @josephdon211
I haven't seen a blockchain that gives peace like a hive, once you follow the rules there would not be any issues whatsoever.
Thanks guys it was a great talk where we learned from great community leaders. I thoroughly enjoyed and learned from your thoughts .
Thanks guys! Great show!
How the DHF works? Doesn't it affect the Hive Ecosystem? Is there any chance to abuse with these fund? What if big account abuse with these fund?
Hi, you can read what it is HERE.
Make projects like inLeo to divert the community in such a way that scare of AI and the vote abuse would be 2nd thing that community thinks when they login. You can't kill yourself now because terminator is coming to get sarah conor in 2050.
So AI abusing reward pool does not mean we kill hive. Many dapp owners would be using AI to write their code, build their games, so do you want to fund them in proposal?
Task based rewards was the best suggestion.
I must say this is the most valuable space for my hive career. I learn so many thing from you guys. I just get some awesome answer against some of my confusion.
Hive rewards pool is just a long discussion when it comes to removing it pool
its has really been an interesting space
Yes it is💯
Big thanks to all the speakers of today, you have all done justice to this topic, I really learnt a lot of things from this discussion, and I will keep participating on every space in order to gain more knowledge about the Hive blockchain
Security, is very very important in any organisation, when there is a strong security the members of the organisation can clearly boost about their organisation to other and invite others to the organisation with being afraid
The fact that evey business can be marketed on hive is really amazing, programmers, designers, writers, singers and so on have been given the opportunity to advertise their skill through the hive community
Is this the last space for the year
I don't think removing the reward pool is the best way to go. One of the things that makes Hive different from other social media platform is the fact that it rewards content creators for their contents.
Oh, this is working now, cool!
I can totally understand users who don't produce content on Hive wanting to remove the reward pool. It's always easy to remove something that you are not involved with.
every shining new thing have come and gone, only hive has remained and is booming with activity
A Big shout-out to Arcange!! Because he made some awesome software. I love the Hive Buzz most. We can get some special features to create a better Hive career by his softwares.
Thank you @vagabondww
@arcange We want that time back when Steemit was ranked 6th on the coin market.
#question why is we not having more users and the price is not even one dollar?
A newbie brainstorming.
I think it's market cycle. When $HIVE and $LEO go to the moon, people will show up. That's why it's so important for all of us to build now!
Exactly, We'd love to build up and both $HIVE and $LEO will go to the MOON! All efforts are well paid at the end of the day.
I thought I was building during my grind but I don't have as much as I thought from just curating and engagement. I need a 10 year bear before the bull.
It is a great idea to empower the communities to have their own fund, also that there are different funds and that everyone with a good project can access the fund without the need for large votes and whales to be approved.
Thank you for answer my question!
I have a good idea of what I think about this topic, but it's always good to see other points of view! I've already changed mine a few times by listening to some other points of view.
#HIVE communities like venezuela has been wonderful, but the cryptospace is relatively small and we need to open up to partner with other communities like #Ethereum #EOS #Ton #nft
Building houses around the world can offer a way to work, meet and greet the community.
I rather get I hive worth 4$ than 10 worth 0.30$, just saying
QUESTION:
I want to hear Dan's take on the removal of the reward pool. I know his stance but I will like to hear it again 🫠
Urgh I would have loved to here that too!
Removing Downvotes is not good on me, we caanot regulate or express freely if we dont like a specific blog or he/she abuse something.
It should cost more though.
I think, if it is deserving
Can anyone see my comments?
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Don't worry, the servers were down
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Thank you for replying. I can view the comments now
Does this mean that users who already received support or upvotes would be denied this opportunity or the opportunity they already have?
It would not be appropriate
#inleo
Hive, being a blockchain-based platform, has the potential to explore and adopt sustainable solutions that minimize energy consumption while maintaining the integrity and security of its ecosystem
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Downvotes is a great features, although most users don't like it but it helps regulate the activities being done on hive, because most people Post content that abuse the platform so this contents need a Downvotes
I do not have problem with the downvotes in as much it is done in a right way, all I'm having problem is that downvotes should not be used to intimidate anyone on the platform.
The Cryptoadoption project of the state of Sucre is growing every day and is a worthy example for other states, we are talking about a circular economy, our cryptocurrency is managed within the platform.
Agree with nifty, dislike button should also be a thing without taking rewards like Downvote does.
Many people don't agree with "opinions" and they can Downvote while dislike might be better.
Hive has indeed gone through a lot of phases and I'd say we get better every time
Dean Dova speaking minds on here
Go my !Lady you’re doing really great!!!
Now that many people are against the downvote feature, CAN WE MAKE MOVE TO REMOVE IT❔❔❔
I wish It's possible 😤
I've not had an encounter with downvote and I hope it doesn't get to my side
oThat was very brilliant and thoughtful @deeannma
I really want to know why some persons would take their time and write something meaningful but end up with little or no vote but someone who writes non meaningful things get the vote
#question I have been hearing about downvotes, is there any advantage downvotes brings to hive?
They say downvotes are supposed to be a way to fight spam. Unfortunately, some genuine authors are also being downvoted for whatever reasons.
Wow, deeann Dova shout out to you ma'am,
That was really awesome.
She said it all and I believe I am very convinced by her points, what a brilliant contribution.
@deeanndmathews is always wonderful to listen to.
She is not afraid to speak common sense.
Engaging inleo is great. I wish other social platforms are incorporated into inleo. Is it only Twitter that can be adopted in inleo? Why are engagement in other social media platforms not adopted as much as X is? #townhall #question
I think she is making some points. Hive is different from other web2, this is web3 whereby whatever you do you will get paid for it.
Thanks for that point you mentioned.
I agree with downvotes, as far as it is done properly.
It will help control peoples activities in the blockchain. No cheating!
Hive is bringing people together and the Hive Engine and the simple system is helping people to build an economy through this ecosystem to support themselves. Layer 2 projects are gaining ground on Hive.
I dislike the use of power to some individuals on hive (whales) the fact that they at times misuse the value of the power they have. I have been a victim of getting downvoted heavily because some whales are having some misunderstanding.
The distribution of rewards is usually a part where if not really looked on, some engagers may stay without benefitting from the rewards, so a deep look at it will be better and favourable many.
Me personally, I have issue with AI, for no reason should an AI content get reward in the community, it's a pure fishy attitude
this discussion is getting better and I believe it will work great for the changes in each community in hive.
There are many ways to earn on hive like tokens, delegates, and many more.
Yeah, there a lot of ways and opportunities one can earn from the Hive blockchain but that main idea of taking out reward pool isn't the best guys, trust me, the other sources you were mentioning such as tipping, layer 2 tokens, and others
those sources are just a tiny source of income on the Hive blockchain and we shouldn't try to centralized the system.
Key point:
working for #hive is not charity, you are building its value. So true! You earn while working - such an incredible #web3 platform!
exactly... this is onboard's biggest argument against all the prejudice that still exists around crypto.
The first thing they say is that crypto is a scam and Hive doesn't even ask you for 1 cent to start and this becomes a great incentive and with people paying attention it can be used to earn more than the mandatory purchase of tokens could bring
I think Kharl has made an important point here, removing the reward pool should come with other incentives that will pay off immensely.
BINGO!!!!!! The fact that anyone can earn Hive makes Hive special! It's why I stayed here this long and I hardly pay attention to payout. I'm fine with moving that to layer 2 if it works, but then that takes away a lot of what makes Hive special. @threespeak
Now I know the reasons behind downvotes, we earn in many ways on the hive.
Ads are a good way, they are more objective, if it is ran by a smart contract there is no taking it away.
If we can have both system we can reward everyone more fairly.
Split the pool sounds better for me than changing.
The discussion is getting hotter and amazing, the topic of discussion is key and huge, and it has to be appropriately deliberated on, it's awesome.
The negative vote is part of the regularization system and necessary in cases of abuse, what is frowned upon is when it is used in a personal way or to censure or intimidate someone.
I agree with this too. The downvote option is surely there for a reason and that to curb abuse and misuse on the platform. It also stand as a sort of control mechanism to go against what people do to spam the platform.
Hive is different from web 2 and other social media platforms where one can come with Zero recourse and make thousands of dollars. The idea of down vote and reward pool wount speak good of us
making changes will cause many consequences like everytime it’s not going to work like the same as previous one, because it’s not same thing as it was before. So, it’s necessary to think about it with proper reasons.
@taskmaster always have a very important and based opinion when talking about these ideas. It's amazing listening to him! #hive
must downvote be the only option against Spam post, also why not notify or warn them first before the downvotes
It is true that before harassing someone by voting negative they should set an example to solve the problem and give a warning that they are doing something wrong. And thus give him the opportunity to improve the user.
I think downvotes matters. We can erase the scammer and spammer to make a healthy community with this option. So audience can get some cool content every time.
I totally agree with taskmaster, these are most of the reasons why Hive is like no other. Coming into Hive with zero resources and with consistency one can get enough resources and more.
Extremely agree with @taskmaster4450 right now. From Cuba, from my own experience, I can say that Hive is maybe unique in that sense.
In my opinion downvotes are not a problem as well. The only time it becomes a problem is when it’s abused by just anyone cause he or she wields that much Hp.
We are gonna go mainstream in institutions, but then again, f-ing word, infrastructure. I start the onboarding process and then we get a lot of errors during the process and that's it, they gone, we have to work harder to get them back that we should if all goes smooth
I'm of the agreement with the last speaker, there should be some level of rewarding system for those who made content outside of the hive blockchain on other platforms. Compensation should be given as well in order to appreciate their work
Hmmm to take away the entire reward pool will definitely be hard. I think we needs to think about it well. Because most people on Hive are there because of reward pools.
Now my question is how will people earn if there's no reward pool?
Some people only depends on this. We should think about it well please.
Downvote issues all around. I have seen some people get downvoted without a reason to it. I don't get it, though. But it is unhealthy to see.
the reward pool now is indeed nice , I think. And yes, if it's going to be replaced....the question will be with what?
Really you will remove the Reward Pool? I don't think soo, Its one of the mean reason why a lot of people is here. Let's be Honest guyss.
Withness I think we are having new people appearing, this is good as it brings greater variety and quality to the filter
But the problem with content visibility is pervasive in every social media on the web. Sometimes people don't look at our content, but for that reason we need to plan for our audience, too. Unfortunately we can't reach everyone on the web.
pinmapple is a great project but it is underutilized. would be interesting to see more happening with that.
Removal of incentive could dampen motivation and participation. Reward fosters a vibrant and engaged community, crucial for Hive blockchain's growth and success.
I agree with you bro. The majority of the users on hive believe removing posting rewards is a bad idea. So hopefully it will never come into fruition
I disagree with the idea of removing the reward pool on the Hive blockchain. Rewards are a strong motivator for many. Removing the reward pool would have serious consequences for the community and those who rely on it.
Sharing success stories, innovative projects, and the supportive community can draw in more individuals curious about what Hive has to offer.
I really love the project proposal listed out there from the Pinmapple community speaker and I will surely and gladly support that with my little Hive Power I got here, that seems to a be a great idea and I fully second that. This night I will read through that proposal and leave out my feedback to the leader.
From the 3 projects Tib spoke on, I have explored only Pinemapple and I didn't really understand what was happening. The blogs there are very quality and that was was drew me there but I just couldn't figure it out. I saw things like maps
Big account are blessing for us. They curate our posts to encourage us to make more qualitative content. I also wanna be a whale in the future. So I can be matter for this community also.
Zealy change my personal finance. By joining here I can do something for the community with my own financial backup. Zealy Campaign is so addictive and I love to complete quests.
Something like community notes on hive is an interesting idea, hadn't thought about it, not sure how it would work, but it's an interesting thread to follow
hive has really changed a lot of life. There are many proof of it on hive on different group. Check Hivenaija and Hiveghana and other communities. Also how does one qualify a post that needs downvote? I only downvote AI or plagiarism post
content creation is the life wire of hive
Ahh. Removing reward pool from Hive? Then it means you want Hive to collapse. Lol. The truth is that if rewards are taken away from the blockchain, what is left? No one will remain here, even though there are still people who don't write for the reward because they do not rely on it to feed themselves. Why are we promoting Hive then? Is it not to bring people and help eradicate poverty?
In simple terms I will just: let the rewards pool be. It's helpful and encouraging. It makes engagement in hive desirous.
yeah I also agree that the downvote is not necessary.
If u don't like a post just ignore I know this will be hard but we have hive watcher so they can check any improperlities
hive is a big platform to expand the crypto world. It has no limit for those who know how it works.
It is in our hands the responsibility of making the hive work well, we have power in the decisions, therefore, voting for the witnesses is very important so that the community projects are carried out.
Do we understand that just a small group care about the blockchain and governance? Do we understand that this skews things in a certain way? Many people don't even know why they power up. They do so because they don't want to be seen as exploiters and they want to earn more. It has nothing to do with governance OR they want to earn curator rewards.
When we speak of Hive, and changing it, we are speaking of changing the lives of hundreds of thousands of people ... so, voting for the right witnesses is important.
Witnesses are important. I certainly have learned in the past three months that I need to be sure the witnesses I vote for are still running (no. 1) and that see what I see on the chain... vote all thirty, folks.
I second to the opinion about the downvoting, that is not necessary at all. If you don't like something, it's better to ignore rather than doing a harm to a person in particular.
I understand the comment from the guy who talked about the 7 days. I always thought that fewer days would be cool, but removing a deadline I don't think would be good for Hive.
Ohhhhh this voice🥰🥰🥰
Go for my !Lady🥰🥰
let @nonsowrites speak :-D curious what he has to say
Me too, hehe
lol I have spoken 🫣
The word is good! 🔥
Deann is cracking everyone with her knowledge ain blockchain, love her thoughts and insight handling a blockchain or a crypto.
There are many new feature that am seeing and I love this and this new features will make the platform more enjoyable for users, even easier and I hope proposal about the proposal will be accepted,so we can enjoy this fully.
When it comes to downvotes, I feel it serves as a mechanism for self-regulation within the Hive community and without this regulation, a lot would go wrong.
Changes in a specific part don't just end there but the effects should also be channelled to seeing how related protocols are being put in place. Rewards pool and downvotes works in tandem.
@deeanndmathews making a lot of sense with her talk. Why bother changing something that is working so well at the moment. Taking away the reward pool will take away from so many people
she totally nailed it man, i didn’t know she was going to attend this space man , I was just nodding my head in agreement to everything she is saying, I love this; why change sth that is working so well ATM.. noice
Wow, you have to work for a whale before you can earn on other platforms? Do these platforms call themselves web3? That's just insane. Hearing things like this make me appreciate hive more because I don't have to work for anyone.
One other problem I have is with downvoting without reason. When I get an upvote I know you like my post but a downvote can be for many reasons; so I should be told.
The reward pool is what makes our platform unique, to think of eliminating it would be to take away the essence of Hive.
No down votes, No removing reward pools. cheers friends
removing reward pool will be definitely cause more harm than good. A lot of people are attracted to hive as a result of the reward attached to it
The discussion is getting intense and Awesome.
HiveHub has been crashing since the Keychain mobile app several days ago. I say this for information and in case there is a possibility that they can solve it.
Ron referenced Whaleshares....Wow!! Blast from the past!
Removing Reward pool on Hive is actually not a good idea as it is a major source of attrqction that attracts users to keep coming to Hive.
Indeed, it will be necessary to find a solution related to rewards. Perhaps this is a complicated issue, and some may not be satisfied, but changes may be necessary for overall improvement.
@taskmaster, that's some great ideas from you. Listening to you is of great benefit to me.
#question What is reward poll? Is it something that can benefit me as a content creator?
The reward pool is what you get money for on Hive, it's what makes HIVE HIVE, if you post and get upvotes, it's cryptos you're getting.
The Hive Rewards Pool is where the rewards for your content come from. The upvotes you receive for your posts or comments are not coming from those people who upvote you but from the Rewards pool. It is also where your curation rewards come from.
You are already getting part of that after 7days of your post ! thats where your HP and HBD rewards come from.
But why don't pay those ad revenue shares in addition to the reward pool? What's going to happen to the reward pool at the end? I don't think inflation is not a problem that big that many people tend to think. I think Edicted is right.
I could like to ask what are the main proposals around the reward pool future? What are the problems or threats people see in the current one deployment? Without going deep to its backend, I could say that I like the way it works.
That was a great ideas form Taskmaster, I do second with him as well, there shouldn't be any way that the reward pool is taken off from Hive blockchain, we know that a lot of people do join the blockchain from zero to hero.
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the reward pool on Hive.Although most individuals rely on hive as their primary source of income,rewards are a major source of motivation for users, and We also care about the community advancement.
4500 posts? That's massive. Wonder how long it will take me to reach such milestone. I love the way taskmaster talks
Attaching a fee for an instant power down can be a game changer. Sometimes, emergency happens and we just need to get it fixed before being in a good frame of mind to continue building.
We talk about DVs for plagiarised text but what about over-reward of #travel #Architecture #outdoor blogs? Loading a post with photos without talking about the designers or some educational history yet earning 100$+ should fall under abuse.
This is one of the great advantages of Hive! The truth is that we need more people who really want to build within Hive... Today it's a small group trying to build and a huge group concerned only with rewards!
Brazil is also an example of countries like these! I've already paid a lot of my bills with hbd, for example.
applause to you sir @taskmaster4450 👏❤️
Why is rewards pool going to be taken out of Hive blockchain? Then I think they will be no basis for creating content here, not only that because curators will also be useless where they can't earn anything for from curation rewards.
D reward pool is probably one of the heartbeat of hive that attracts users to Keep comin and interactin on a daily basis and removing such would be more like a disaster that would make most people get discourage,powerdown which affect hive
I used to think that Edicted was a Nigerian, but I obviously wrong hehe. I love Edicted's point...You are on point Edicted!
removing the reward pool on hive is basically sending everyone back home from a party.
I do not think such a move would give a brighter future for the hive ecosystem no matter what the reward pool would be replaced with
Think about it
i like the freedom of speech here. Everyone gets to really speak their mind and everyone's perspective is being appreciated. That alone, is amazing
@edicted and @tsunica nailed it with their takes on the idea. We need to work on some other ideas before talking about the rewards pool. #hive
Wow! These are really cool things I much say. Your proposal should be granted for the project to commence. I can't imagine seeing location or maps of posts and other cool stuffs you mentioned.
Honestly together hive will become great.
I don’t think that would be a good idea just to remove the reward pool on the Hive blockchain, I feel that rewards motivate people to be on Hive also because it’s decentralized. But there must be some other ways to cooperate together.
On the issue of AI, I don't deny that someone can achieve something of value, something sound, through it, but it should be stated quite explicitly, and then let the whole community in a decentralized way decide on its merits.
#Q
Everyone here bring value to hive, but only quality content is been rewarded. Some put more effort but it hard to notice them, so they left after quickly. If we want to bring masses to Hive, Does Hive have what to retained them???
Now speaking about reward pools,
Something bothers me a lot and that is the fact that the rewarding on hive is somehow unfair, permit me to say
You can make a decent write and earn less than someone who made a less effort post.
It's common
The value of content is always subjective. Each person determines what is valuable to them. This is why I love the idea of communities. When a curator is based on the niche of a community, then each article is valued in context of the commumity niche. So the downvote feature is great especially when a content niche is different from that of the community.
How can someone manage so many hive account at Once
The statistics and format to curation of contents is really interesting but sometimes they are some omission which in turn affects others who are just genuinely taking a slow way to grow.
We do not agree with your proposal r0nd0n. It does not benefit Hive at all, only a small group.
Pushing content rewards to layer 2 tokens and allowing witness voting and governance to thrive on main layer token will be good.
Statistics might be another key component to drive the sunset of the reward pool. Something that brings value to the blockchain does more for #hive than something that stays inchain.
We do not agree with your proposal r0nd0n. It does not benefit Hive at all, only a small group.
am I the only one cse I can not see any threads
can i get a reply
correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the subject of value on hive is highly subjective.
Although it's difficult, the account recovery system we have not only on Hive but on other web3 platforms is far superior to web2.
If your account is hacked on web2, you have to contact the company that owns the platform, which usually doesn't give a damn about you. 2 🧵
Taking away the reward pool without replacing it with something meaningful is going to lead to a downward spiral. There has to be something people look forward to as they put their content out there
Sincerely speaking rewards is one of the things that made me join hive, unlike web2 platform hive offers users a reward for their engagement , so I think rewards should always be made use of and not abandoned because it is a great tool.
Increasing reward pool you be the topic of suggestions not removing, and if rewards pool is removed, what is the other plans to keep user's here, how do you people intend to give them value for their time.
One of the most an interesting recurrently is the reward pool, it's quite good, I'm expecting some level of increase. This is a welcoming development, but it should be moderate and every users should be able to have some level
I can't see threads again 🫥.
Concerning the rewards pool, I think if it were to be removed, the disadvantages will outweigh the advantages by a vast proportion.
Sounds like Tib does a lot of work on chain, though I am only familiar with one of his projects which is pinmapple. Will need to go look at the other two and see how good they work.
From the 3 projects Tib spoke on, I have explored only Pinemapple and I didn't really understand what was happening. The blogs there are very quality and that was was drew me there but I just couldn't figure it out. I saw things like maps
I use 3speak often but most times I find it difficult to load my video and publish it. This always pisses me off and I will feel like not loading a video.
Why is this happening?
#question
Wow! These are really cool things you are talking about. I think
Wow that is a great project you got from there, I will definitely check that out, wow, I like the fact that it can generate you live location to places that you wish to know, those are great projects, will do my best to stop by and support
anyways, I hope this hive token reward pool will not drain hive of users because what then is the essence of marketing hive, the hive token distribution is what makes hive unique on this decentralized space.
As increasing the value of second-layer tokens would lessen our reliance on Hive as a reward token, I believe we should concentrate more on this. Every community ought to produce additional uses for its tokens.
The method used by 3speak is the best and amazing because, it is simple and straightforward, your content has a direct relationship with the reward.(statistically driven rewards).
Distribution of rewards to more users (in smaller pieces than focusing on a few creators with big earnings would help grow hive better.
I partially agree with this statement my dear, I believe the distribution of rewards should go around, including the newbies who make quality content on hive not just focused to one side of the chain, noice my dear…
I had issues with 3speaks some weeks ago, my post was upvoted and also was deducted a few minutes later, can I ask what was the problem, what am I not doing right.
I believe that the question about rewards and downvotes is important to reformulate, as it is complicated, for example, for a newbie to do something that shouldn't receive a downvote and give up, sometimes this can be a big barrier to entry
I think theirs no need to reformulate especially the Downvote, I know it is hard for the newbies when they receive a downvote, but it is a kind of way they will learn that they have done wrong.
The word quality will always be SUBJECTIVE. There will be massive abuse however we chose to go about itit. Reward on post is either automated or base on Curators discretion.
hive is indeed all we ever wanted, no one wants to be told what to do and the hive platform gives us that freedom. web 2 platforms you are told what to talk about and what not to talk about, but on hive what you talk about is left to you.
I'm a fan of how the 3speak team distribute their reward/upvote published via their Frontend, for a content to generate more views, engagement and the likes kind of mean it's valuable and that other users find it worth engage with.
in a nutshell like the team called it 'Statistics driven reward', it's a cool way to go and encourage users who don't just put in more effort to their content, but also interact with others and much more.
The value a content brings to the platform can sometimes be influenced which is most often dependent on the networking an individual has on a space. I just think the content has to work with other activities.
which means the more followers you have, the more you are likely to get more upvotes from threespeak, is that fair? it's statistics, not the content
If someone gets a downvote would it affect his other post votes in the future
One important thought I want to appreciate so far is that reward should not be based off content quality alone. Instead, every activity that brings value to the hive blockchain should be rewarded. That really means that reward should not be just for content. There should be rewards for other positive activity like bringing traffic and having a lot of views.
There have been this controversy with 3speak curation system in that they curate contents after the first 24hours. The problem is even after the first 24 hours, the post might drive more traffic but no curations are then given.
Quality contents should be supported and rewarded. This will serve as an encouragement to the author to publish more quality contents.
contents creations and shared is one of the way to get rewards and distribute upvotes. That's how it have been but now, votes should be based on any acts on Hive that add value to the ecosystem
It would be great if great rewarders such as 3speaks lays out the criteria for which someone would earn rewards, that way content creators tend to put in more efforts and create things which would be beneficial to the hive community.
I'm loving this threadcast so much, learning alot already. This is just a great avenue for Hive mentorship, I've learnt how to promote Hive on X
Threespeaks community are doing a great job
We keep on breaking the nodes... Jeeze
For a long time I struggled to make things I thought were valuable, but sometimes it's difficult because the problem is the perception.Not many people think what you do is "valuable" or worthy of being upvoted, and you get discouraged.
Ask Matt Rife and other folks that are getting dragged around by Cancel culture in Web2 platforms. They are not enjoying any of that drama.
Hive has censorship resistance model & that's still a buzzword we can use to market Hive to Web2.
Although I've heard of reward pools before but I never knew how exactly it works. If not for this space I would have really been in darkness about this. There are so many things we don't know honestly. Knowledge is indeed power.
When it comes to downvotes, It's important to strike a balance and use it responsibly to foster a positive and constructive community. Now, the big question is; how do we strike the balance? There are no rules guiding how it works.
Valuable contents bring joy to the heart whenever I see them rewarded. Well-made content generated from life, not machine written content written to get tons of views, and undeserved value on it. That's plagiarism, too.
platforms do need revenue and the people who pool it in have to get a share of the revenue they pool in ...nice point
Welcome @jongolson We are waiting for you anxiously.
lol rough day with the apple products today lol finally got things sorted and we shut down the show lol
Some days are like that. Hopefully, better things would be next time.
@jongolson We are grateful indeed for your valuable remarks.
This Week on Hive will return next week.
Last week was Thanksgiving in the US and we have the Town-Hall now.
Question: I would like to know more about how Hive Witness works, because there way a day a friend of mine newly introduced to the ecosystem asked me what it means but i could barely gave a reply.
Basically, it is about some users who put a node to verify transactions on the Hive Blockchain, their position has a lot to do with the votes they get from the community itself, they decentralize the network and keep it afloat.
Not to brag
But are we proving my point?
if only all these communities does apply ad revenue.. that would be so Good for ecosystem.
Yeah,using rewards from the views doesn't mean it will be less. We just need reach the better infrastructure to actually make this possible all around Hive.
I mean, we should be finding out audiences outside hive so when this is incorporated into long form and subscriptions become a thing, I think we will turn a new page, even if it’s a slow process. No need to get rid of first layer rewards, the focus should be on making them less relevant through other means
wen distribution?
okay, okay. What do you mean by great content? You know, this is an old conversation I have had so many times and it is a bit exhausting but I will reiterate: We need better metrics to evaluate content quality. These metrics have to be verifiable by everyone.
For me these metrics include:
Quality contents also depends on the community. Some quality contents aren't recognize because it is posted to the wrong community. Where people doesn't really need them because it isn't of any value to them.
Question
Why should we vote for witnesses?
And it is more important to vote outside the top 20 or be like sheep and vote for the top 20?
Having a Town Hall just for this topic is cool
Downvotes in particular is a dicey topic to poke around. Since we are on it, I'm looking forward to all the takes that will be given regarding Downvotes.
Nice disclaimer right there, Nifty 👍
Question
Hive frowns on plagiarism and content farming which will probably attract a downvote. But I have come a across some posts that are not plagiarized but downvoted and a reason was that the post isn't high reward deserving. Why?
at the end of the day, the way the chain is set up...you can do with your stake as you wish. and for some, for whatever reason, is to use their downvotes to remove potential rewards
The space is life now, join if you haven't.
What is the work of witnesses on Hive and, what qualifications does one need to attend to become a witness?
Question
Why can't each community generate its own revenue?
no other community has implemented ads/incentives to bring it so far
Nice one.
because they need their own frontends first. InLeo is the major one making strides at this for now
It can, and that's why layer 2 is so exciting!
how I wish all the supposed big accounts on spaces right now actually use the chain they want to change, you know 🫣
I haven't seen some of them on inLeo.
damn, man when this will happen I'll believe it's the peak version of InLeo.
Dan do show up on ctt and threads too.
I don't want anyone crying about the chain not doing well when they don't use it. All their knowledge is outdated
True, Haven't seen one using it and than speak about those real problems.
QUESTION:
Can the thread votes be automated to certain users in a same way that votes to longer posts?
yup, you can set up hive.vote to vote comments.
Question
What do you have to say about the downvotes on innocence one’s, also when new comers don’t know about the rules and make mistake & all of their posts get downvoted later on they end up leaving Hive.
i think that hurts with onboarding. because sometimes new members of the community don't know the culture and the 'rules' of the chain. there should be some grace.
Also voting down one post is enough in my opinion to warn them in the beginning instead of going through every post to downvote even though that post has not broken any rules. May that could be a solution ?
i honestly have no idea how any downvote trails or projects work. i personally have never taken part in it. but another reason why proijects like $LEO are so important. very minimal 'removal of rewards' here.
Yeah, I am glad for that reason.
!PIZZA
Question:
Last time I checked reward removed from pool (Downvotes) was around $700 about yesterday.
Does it mean there's not many people at the moment trying to scam and getting Downvotes or people have found way to escape HW?
i think the downvotes aren't a mass issue because it doesn't affect most of the users. the downvote wars and 'petty ego DV's' seem to be the bulk of the concerns people have.
#question
I have read a couple of posts where the authors complained of having been victims of downvotes.
Do some curators intentionally target author's post and downvote them?
This is true, some people just give you downvotes because they don't like you, and it has nothing to do with your content, but how they see you as a person. 1/2
I have been through this many times. The best thing to do is to do nothing because eventually they get bored when you ignore them.
But that's not fair. Why would someone justbbehave like that
Five fingers are not the same and I admit that Hive has some racist users as well. So they can target users based on personal enmity, religion, or color. Sometimes content has nothing to do with it.
Question
How can one earn from Ads? Do you mean I can run my business as Ads in #hive?
The way it's working here on LEO, is that you content when you create through the inleo platform, will reward you going forward for the traffic it generates. so no longer a 7 day payout window.
And APPARENTLY, we need to be here and will be here. Governance is WONDERFUL, so we the people will need to be at these town halls and BE HEARD.
Question:
About the Reward Pool, during the bull run times with hive price rising - will reward pool get adjusted or lowered to minimize inflation?
How it works in bull run time?
Threadcast is back up frens
Welcome back thank God
Yeah I can see that.
Yeah I can see that.
Yeah I can see that.
Yeah I can see that.
Yeah I can see that.
Yeah I can see that.
We need to bring at least 50,000 new users to Hive, and then they will bring more. Only then would things move towards mass adoption and the popularity of the chain.
The only solution is more users but the question is: Are the hive nodes capable to have so many users?
100% agree on both statements: We need 50K users for kickstarting everything, until now this feels like an open beta.
And B) We definitely need stronger infra, I've been super angry with Hive-Engine this last weeks. This is terrible UX
Yes, you are right—frustrating and wasting much of our precious time with the Hive engine over the past week or so.
Questions
Why can't microblogging be explored for the hive blockchain?
i think threads is doing a great job at bringing this to more people. we just need the entire blockchain to use it :)
The negative vote is an important tool, but some measures should be taken beforehand. Notifying about the error and giving a warning would be good measures.
QUESTION
Since we are talking about downvotes, what do you think about Hive Watchers, or any other "police" solution?
Vote for nonsowrites' imaginary witness node.
I will cancel downvotes and print you infinite money
WHat is the benefit of declining rewards?
Does it have a way of helping you build your profile or audience?
it's just a way to keep the rewards in the pool. some pieces of content, the creator declines them just to keep it in the pot
Okay I understand better
Question
What happens when you discover that the owner of the account is not a real person, do you constantly downvote them? what happens to the reward that they have milked already?
that's why i believe the social reputation you build here on chain is so important!
#Question
What are included on Layer 2, I need more clarification about it please and what are authors expected to do.
layer 2 are the projects build on to of HIVE. so for example, LEO is a layer 2 project.
Big Question
How do we determine the actual of a content?
huge question! i think it's a combination of engagement and views. which should, generate more votes.
Question
What is the thought about new users getting huge curation rewards on their contents from the start even though they are full of quality? And for new user getting nothing for too long even with their quality contents.
All though I'll say it's just a matter of luck and timing sometimes or is it not?
my first post on the blockchain, i think it earned 1 cent lol
QUESTION
How would you know when a post is valuable to the Hive community? All we have been saying is knowing the value and if it is valuable to the ecosystem. So how would you be able to know if it’s valuable to earn the reward pool?
the key for me, is the engagement and views. if there are plenty of comments, that means it struck the attention of people. and the views are a product of it.
Well, most times it is difficult to get large audience on your work since one could be a newbie at that frame how can you tell?
oh i completely agree. this is a slow climb for sure. i've ben here for almost 6 years now, and i still have trouble attracting engagement and views. it's really a case of showing up, daily, and stick to it over time.
Wow 6 years, well I’ve been here for 6months and honestly it is difficult but I guess it’s just time. Thank you so much DJ Jongo for answering my question. I appreciate
it is time. and trust me, i know it can seem like it just never getting better. but you are doing the right things. engaging here every day will be huge down the road. you are setting yourself up i believe for big things!
Question
We're operating on a Decentralized proof of stake (DPOS) system. Maybe we have to change to decentralized proof of Value (DPOV)?
don't forget to vote @town-hall witness
#question
What is the maximum number of post that can be made on hive in a day?
Is there a thing like too much posting?
if you have the resource credits, you can post as much as you wish lol but i try to create one post a day, some people do multiple...but it's up to your audience, what they accept and engage with.
question
What challenges do you foresee for Hive in the near future, and what solutions or improvements would you propose?
nodes. so we can scale lol
Ok, thanks for the reply.
Question!
I really want to know or understand the role or responsibilities of hive witnesses on the hive blockchain.
Again, what are the technical infrastructures required to run a hive witnesses?
i think it's a combination of different tasks and abilities. but chain security is very important. for me, i believe it needs to represent the value they are bringing to chain as well. and represent the actual users.
QUESTION
Is there a way to notify users if they have faulted and going to be down voted? Because it seems discouraging when you post and you dont get a vote.
Calm down na. Lol
The space hasn't even began... 🤔
We all got question that need clearificationn
if you have a free vote for witnesses or if you vote for witnesses who are inactive, take a look at the current active witnesses. Any vote helps keep the node running!
It is very bad to see active witnesses behind inactive witnesses...
QUESTION
How does the downvoting system work and what is the effect of downvotes on my reputation?
On a normal occasion, the downvote option is used on post that are perceived to have too much rewards or on post that seem to be farming rewards from the blockchain.
If you get a downvote, your reputation goes down just like when you get an upvote and your reputation goes up.
Negative votes are part of HIVE's system, if you commit abuse of any kind, you can have negative votes, and if there are many, your reputation will go down and disappear, that's all. You just have to not abuse the system.
Edmundo doesn't speak english so maybe he talks if you translate
We have many DEX but not enough #P2P networks to make it easy to get fiat value into #HIVE
I think one solution for rewards is to attract investors so that all those content creators who put in the effort are supported, currently there are few whales and lots and lots of content creators.
I honestly have a question; what is the motivation for raising the possibility of eliminating the reward pool? What is the origin of this idea? Is there an alternative incentive system based on Tip, or something similar?
@khaleelkazi is right about building a proper economy having a value in and value out. It's a hard thing to measure. Inleo is doing great with ad revenues and the impression. Bringing money into the system would be nice.
Happy to be here. Will the threadcast break today?
Let's see how many Hive nodes go offline 😂
Huh 😮, it shouldn't break please.
Finally found the threadcast! Always happy I can make it despite being on the other side of the world. What did I miss?
Haha... It's good you made it to the threadcast. I assume you are already listening on the X space that's currently live for Hive Community Town Hall.
As for what you've missed, the first discussion was an intro discussion on Downvotes.
uh oh. hahaha the most controversial topic on hive!
this topic sounds fascinating! looking forward to learning more!
Post the newsletter link eric.
Reminder set! Interesting topics.
Set a reminder for the space here
I am glad the topic "Downvote" would be looked into today. Even though it's part of the system on Hive, downvotes should not be misuse. Imagine the phrase, "two elephants are fighting, the grasses suffers it". That was how it was some months ago where I was affected on my posts for some weeks. I didn't like it. Downvote option should be for those violating the rules on Hive and not the innocent ones.
I don't see any other Blockchain based social media platform like Hive. As a DeFi platform, Hive is the best. They who love Web3 more than web2 can use Hive instead of Twitter and Facebook.
I think I can relate to what rondon is saying on the use of AI, it is actually factual that AI generated posts can be easily detected, there is this extraordinary perfection on that post, which means Ai posts are impeccable, noice rondon
QUESTION
how does the reward pool benefit the communities and how often is the reward pool distributed?
I love the fact that Hive frowns on plagiarism. Creating contents should be based on real life experiences. Original content.
It's a good thing that it can be detected when bloggers plagiarize.
Plagiarism is a big offense that needs to be punished, imagine claiming ownership of another persons content, content creating should be based on personal experience nd most importantly ORIGINAL, its nice we have a police to curb that act
it's beyond assumption, #hive will certainly grow with the project at hand, it's clear . 🚀
Sometimes, I see people with original content earning less than one who uses AI images and text, and that's demoralising.
There's so much work to be done here.
This happens all the time. It is more about network that about the quality content
Yeah right
#question What could be the cause of curators downvo and how it affects mmy posts payout
QUESTION:
Do one gets penalized for using AI or ChatGPT to assist in writing a post? Maybe get's downvoted or muted?
Some communities frown upon AI related content I believe. For example hive learners do not appreciate blogs that are AI generated. You could get downvoted when it is found out your blog is AI generated.
Yeah, and for that we need to stay away totally from ai generated content so we can be safe
yeah instead of damaging a house solve and renew or attack the problem, because you can't destroy hive with it's success so far. Hive has been growing and it's going far that's what I believe
Downvote tends to watch and put hivers in the right order, it serves as a punishment for plagiarism, going beyond the rules and niches of a community
Hive teaches people how to run a business in community... that is the secret power of the social layer that also changes lives.
Removing the reward poll is like removing the identity of Hive. It's inevitable take the reward poll away and see how alot of users will leave the hive blockchain. This technology has been a source of livelihood for alot of users here.
Do downvotes have their own curation trail....what happens if someone gets a lot of downvotes....downvotes are usually used for the wrong purposes
I'm going to be playing Assasins Creed Origins while I listen to prevent myself from spamming the threadcast with 5 comments per minute
Best of luck with the demo.
#Question
Is there a reason why the bigger curators downvotes smaller hive account ?
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QUESTION Been hearing about hive witness for some time and I can't figure out what it's all about, does it have anything to do with earning on hive?
With technology we've nowadays it's easy to catch AI, plagiarism and scams.
Hahaha yeah, and they don't realize how easy it is.
They have to work more to make it not to be detected and well, at least that is some extra work
Thanks guys. Hive is the greatest community with some helpful mentor. I want to use my best effort to grow the community across everywhere. And last thing is "Hive is the Blockchain for Web3"
@luchyl town hall space will be up soon!
Thank you sis. I'm actually stuck in a traffic
Reminder set and waiting
Let's go!
@adetorrent if you are not busy it would be nice if you join us 🥰
I've been anticipating for a while now 🥰
Happy new month Lions and rookies 😊
Am ready and waiting
Downvote option generates negative energy in a world that needs more positive energy. I vote to get rid of it.
So happy to be here. Lets talk about these important subjects.
Ready to listen to all these topics and keep up to date with the interesting things happening in #hive
Greetings everyone!
Hello friends
And that is the other thing ... people consider Hive around the world because they can change their lives with it, and not just with the token. Once people learn how to work consistently in community, that changes their lives.
Question: I don't have much knowledge about the reward pool, but I know that it is shared among all Hive members, I think that's basically it, but I still have questions, does this pool reset every day? Or Month? Would it be somehow infinite? So do we have Hive for the rest of our lives or is there any chance that the Hive token will end one day? Thank you for your attention.
Hello to you all...
I've been waiting for this and ask question more about the down voting topic I hope we can get all the answer on this talk. Thanks and more power.
Hello, from here again. I'll have to check out some proposals soon.
Wouldn't a direct fiat to Hive make this a centralized exchange and eventually open the doors to regulations?
it will have to be some type of p2p
True. How that would work is another question then... can fiat be pooled? 😅
Question: Sometime last month I heard a user made mention of probably removing the Hive Reward Pool. Now my question is will there be a day we would wake up in the morning and realized no more Reward Pool on Hive Blockchain?
The down voting option is always demoralizing and I think Hive should look into it, either by introducing a new option or getting ride of it entirely.
Hello everyone, very happy to be joining the town hall
Hello.. Live and active!
i want us to really get rid of downvoting , because it really killed zeal in someone
Time to tune in... let's go
I am ready for this space and I will be asking alot of questions and give my honest opinion on the topic.
Its very Important to understood DHF proposals one is voting. So we have to be sure the projects we are funding are the right ones.
I am a witness on how some people have abandoned Hive because of a downvote.
When I hear the word, Hive Community Town Hall, I get confused even when friends invites mme to listen to the town hall, I don't get it. So, what's Hive Community Town Hall all about?
love to get in depth insight into all there is to downvotes. Had a nasty experience with a hiver and couldn't understand what he was trying to explain. Suffice to say some downvotes are totally unnecessary
Question:
What's the development on the idea of eliminating the reward pool from the ecosystem? #question
hello everyone it's good to be here again.
I got downvoted on hive once and it was a very painful experience, though I was the cause but it did not stop the pain. Imagine losing everything because of a a mistake.
I am interested in the topic of Reward pool as I don't know much about it, so I will try to pay attention, despite the language, when they talk about it.
All I'm hearing right now is Hive witness and it seems I'm lost here,what could that be, is it a sort of project for the members? I really wanna know
Hive witnesses are those who validate transactions on the Hive blockchain. Read more about them on LeoGlossary.
Glory is herere
#question. The downvoting options, will it not discourage people as some reasons resulting to downvoting are not really that intentional?
My take on downvotes will be even if you wanna downvotes a user i think it will be good to give a fair warning or advice to such users about how to run their content better and not just downvoting randomly. It will sure discourage such users and probably get pissed off and leave the ecosystem.
Here we are today. Want to learn some wonderful things on the topics.
I just wish I could hear clearly, on transit
i just wanna really talk about the idea of downvoting. Truth in the world of tech, harsh criticism kills the vibe to persist and get results. If downvoting becomes a thing, lots of people might struggle with believe in themselves.
#question:
I really want to know about hive witness, is it by building an Hive Dapp or there is something attached to it. I went through Hive gitlab and saw something like node, did I need to run a node before be an hive witness?
witnesses are nodes that runs the transactions, anyone can do that if have machines that could run 24h a day without any internet or power interruption.
I think I understand that now. Thanks !BBH
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QUESTION how does the downvotes work and is there anything like a downvote trail? As there is a curation trail.
I think there is. If the curator has a curation trail, when he downvotes a post, all the trails will follow suit.
So this means that as far as you are in a curation trail, if a curator downvotes a post, you're automatically doing be so whether you want it or not.
I guess so because I experienced that where I saw more than one curator downvoted my post and when I checked it was curation trail.
Hello everyone!
Am glad to be part of this town hall.
Lets have the best if it.
DEXes on layer 2 suck and its been for a while now that nothing works(node issues). Should these issues be focused on first?
This space is going to be one of a kind as I've been wanting to hear thoughts concerning the topics.
We all. have a voice, and being active and staying involved in this space is key.
The downvote feature on the Hive blockchain Is like a double-edged sword, right? On one hand, it can be helpful for maintaining quality content and discouraging spam or plagiarism. But on the other hand, things can get a bit messy when people start misusing the downvote button for invalid reasons.
I'm so happy there is a space as this one where we get to err our opinions on whatever it is that we wish to
are downvotes really necessary.......if my opinion doesn't match mine I could just use the comment section
I am curious to know more about the topics for today
The governance part of the blockchain is truly needed and they need people to vote their proposals, however, some of them aren't active anymore and clearing them off my list is what I am aiming at and vote others in.
While downvotes is a regulatory use of rewards I think we should have a system to protect authors as well who suffer "bullying" in a sense for the misuse of DV.
i really hope that something should be done concerning the issue of downvoting , it is really discouraging. Something needs to be done
Sometimes even it says on my notifications someone upvoted my post instead my payout goes up it goes down. Is that a glitch or something?
#Question
Do downvotes affect payout or curation trail...if someone downvotes do my payout increase or decrease
Downvotes affect payout but it depends on the weight of the downvote. If someone with a huge hive power worth $50 downvotes your post with say $23, that user who's downvote is worth $50 can remove all your rewards for that post.
Hello everyone
As much as the downvote option is good, I feel that the reason behind using it is what matters. I feel like sometimes people use it for a wrong purpose and that has affected some users to a great length to how much they put in to the blockchain.
QUESTION: Are you aware of the international importance of Hive being usable around the world with no extra steps, and the Hive Hubs involving onboarding businesses that thrive on that stability?
Downvote is okay for an abuse but it becomes a concern when hive users are downvoted for no just a reason from the side of the author. With today's technology, detecting a post with plagarism or Ai is simple
this conversation is very important, and I didn't even realize it was an issue
we earn upvotes for our original thoughts and creativity, i support the frown against plagiarism, don't defraud others
I strongly support Rondon view of point about addressing the issue at hand strategically rather than coming up with policies that will draw back what has been built so far.
people need to be motivated...In as much as a lot of people write because they love to write, the reward adds an extra boost too.
The downvotes on hive is just a way of caution to the users and engagers. What really intrigued me is how prompt it acts, immediately a spam is detected no need for further scrutiny. Sometimes the errors unconscious
The advent of AI generated post in my opinion pose a threat to content writer and defeat the purpose of having original content on the hive Blockchain, I'm in agreement with hive governance stand to frown against it usage.
Using AI on hive to create content is like cheating others who put in their efforts to bring out the best, AI is not the best way to grow as a blogger on hive, this issue need to be address
Correct. What matters is that people know about the existence of Hive and its proposals, without it being associated with some kind of scam or something like that.
Emphasizing reward on how a content attracts outsiders to Hive is a smart way of maximizing hive user base to market hive. That would be a big incentive to promote Hive.
Without the reward pool, Chain will literally become centralized..
Distribution through APR based on Stake? So, it's only benefits large stakeholders.
Only see disadvantage of removing it.
Can anyone tell one benefit of removing reward pool?
Yeah, I agree to the fact that people should be downvoted for either writing a fully generated AI content or a plagiarized content, but sometimes we need to guide the users on that first, I can remember I onboarded a newbie where she made a post without using her original picture although she sourced the images used but still got downvoted. That was devasting and she has to even stop blogging on Hive. Let's guide users first before later when we realize it's consistent we can downvote them.
It's a shame your newbie experienced that. That is very bad and quite frankly it would be better to warn and caution new users cos it's easy to know who the new users are. I hope she gets motivated in the future to give hive a second chance
concerning the AI stuff if there was a way to get hive to detect Ai written contents then it would make the block chain fair to everyone
People on premium be intimidating us with lengthy writes🧐🧐🧐
Just let the community know before you and witness get rid of the reward pool so that people know when to say bye felicia!
I never see you talking about 30 USD worth of actifi posts, but now AI is a threat to get rid of entire hive rewards? so in near future you want people to post content for free? and for what on Hive? kumbaya?
There are advantages of downvote, it helps the ecosystem to maintain order however some people use this power in the wrong one, why would someone downvote you because a person they have an issue with upvoted you? It's crazy you know.
I think leo has only just begun to fix this with evergreen and subscriptions. The reward pool and encouraging people to share their posts outside hive isn't mutually exclusive. I think as the projects increase, the rewards will be spread thin and people will pursue other ways of earning (evergreen, subscriptions, selling things on hive)
"If it's NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT." Data says the reward pool is not broken!
True said,
It's Great to see InLeo working on bringing revenue in hive and only if more frontends does apply the same thing like evergreen and ads revenue could be the best sustainable source for whole ecosystem.
Hive is the best replacement of Twitter. We can make threads, post, poll and everything in Hive using InLeo Frontend. This is more fun than Twitter.
please what is second layer platform?
I don’t really understand.
so $HIVE is the base layer (layer 1). and the second layers (like $LEO) are built on top of it.
Oh! I understand now.
Thank you!
I agree to the speaker about the proof of brain design. Good valid explanation. Things are yes complicated for a new user.
Gotta love that guy!
I think one solution for rewards is to attract investors so that all those content creators who put in the effort are supported, currently there are few whales and lots and lots of content creators.
That was awesome! I really hope I can join in on mic sometime but it’s 3 AM, people sleeping here.
is there any official date when VSC Smartcontracts and nodes will be live on hive?
Moving reward distribution to communities (through DHFs) would totally kill the smaller communities or at least reduce their user base drastically.
Now, I would consider getting behind what you suggest, Arcange -- community distribution of Hive tokens might not be a bad idea in the long run.
How the DHF works? Doesn't it affect the Hive Ecosystem? Is there any chance to abuse with these fund?
stakeholders decide what gets voted upon and who receives the funds so its all up to the community
I'm glad we are making effort toward grassroot marketing. We are seeing for ourselves that there isn't much out there in web 2.5/3. It's all hype and pump and dumps.
This conversation is exhausting because it often leads no where.
I’m seriously finding issues with my screenshot icon. I hope it wouldn’t be a problem submitting screenshots that is above higher than the required time. I’ve been on the show for two hours now.
THANK YOU ... FINALLY ... for those who READ CHARTS, this is why. As it is, Hive is highly decentralized and allows everyone THE SAME OPPORTUNITY. Hive is a best-selling item on Amazon now because of that!
Woohoo
Someone is excited than me 😬😅
DATA. Folks want to talk about thinking logically -- THANK YOU FOR COMING WITH THE DATA.
Kudos to Nifty and Eric for the great show.
Celebrating New Year's Day with Hive ... I will be present, either way!
It is better you ignore a post if you don't like it ,downvoting
How do downvotes contribute to content quality on online platforms, and what role do they play in maintaining a healthy curation environment?
yooo this is so awesome but it’s 3:28 AM here. I gotta sleep. Love Hive! ❤️
The effort users on Hive put to create content and engage in the blockchain is not spoken enough.
Agree with Eric, if we don't bring more people on we won't last. So build the apps and we can talk about the reward pool once they are built and actually bringing new people on.
@deeanndmathews77 spoke the mind of every small account
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I see the need to look at the rewards pool from a different dimensions, looking at what one is focused on building something sustainable without the the target on the current rewards pool. Just this can change mindset.
Creating content and being rewarded for it is great. Writing is one of my passions, Hive is the perfect place where I can express myself.
I just love this woman's voice, she is making sense but her voice makes me wanna contribute 😂😂❤️
If she comes for an interview at my company I will definitely give her the job.
lmao me too
I really want to appreciate you guys for this. I feel that if we can understand the dynamics of the Reward Pool and optimize its distribution, this will definitely help in supporting the growth and sustainability of Hive's content ecosystem
I think this discussion about the reward pool is just avoiding the unpleasant fact that we have just sucked at outreach and haven't built enough great layer 2 apps yet. The reward pool creates an extra incentive layer to help build them and spread the token further
On the topic of downvote. I have never had an issue with it. I say this because I have been downvoted sometime ago and it did not stop me from making more content on Hive.
Haaaa!
Didn't it affect your subsequent articles? I know of a friend that was downvote by someone with high reputation, the subsequent articles kept being automatically downvoted.
It would be good if some of the speakers could tell us if they have had to deal with negative votes and tell us how they solved or handled the situation. And hear about their experiences..
There are many changes that are being done, although the can come with challenges so we should be ready for this, I have heard about so many features that will be added soon and this is amazing, I hope every proposal will be accepted.
Looking at the said layer , and I want to know by asking . What is the relationship between layer2 and Web3 ?
I support Khal idea of these issues, the simplest way to go about it
We also needs to know that it is not everyone that plays game on Hive.
We all have different opinions on why we are on Hive, so what is the essence of those that are writing and there's no reward for them. We know that play to earn game is different entirely.
Yeah not everyone plays games!
Question:
I last saw rewards removed from pool (Downvotes) was just $700 something yesterday
Do you see less Downvotes as less people are trying to scam and hive is improving or are scammers doing escaping from HW eyes?
There is no problem with downvotes, we just need a countermeasure for people who abuse it.
The power down time is something that really brings security... it would actually be much easier for a hacker to take everything if he could simply ignore this time by paying a fee... I prefer to wait but be safe!
Very true, self vote and distributing stake to stakeholders is not too different, @edicted makes a good point here. It is even worse since you have to do nothing, you can just put money, forget about it and take it all out later
Removing the reward pool doesn't sound like a good idea to me....I feel a lot of people will leave the blockchain.
So far, the show has been insightful and I love the points points from Tsunsica
content creation is not easy and if the curators are only focusing on contents that might attract attention or value, they might miss it because some people don’t do original content and they come in to swoop up all the reward from the pool
I agree with her. Once we have a handful more semi-successful projects on 2nd layer with 10k+ active users, we can talk about slowly phasing out post rewards seriously. Otherwise we shoot ourselves in the foot. Wish i could speak, but I can't use mic now.
Personally, I am working on introducing a friend to our ecosystem, and I was able to stop him in time as he wanted to produce content simply with AI. Interestingly, it was easy for me to detect the pattern, even without a tool.
I want to know if you get notified when you a downvote just like upvote?
Also removal of the reward pool isn't going to do any good besides Hive was built on the basis of rewards and so, a change is definitely not going to do any good
being on these spaces be making me feel like a woman in tech , ha!
But QUESTION: I was on the threadcast when one of you said we can reach out anytime to ask questions. Who is that, please? Name, handle? #question
Can I get an answer on what Hive Community Town Hall all about? Is this discussion going on on the X or something
Eric is speaking, my geeeee
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Absolutely, highlighting aspects that showcase the unique features, innovations, and community-driven nature of Hive can attract more attention to this vibrant blockchain platform
Most people at Hive don't know the power that Hive Power gives them to help the proposals and define the witnesses who vote on the future of Hive
The issue of down vote have become a challenging issue on the hive platform. Many on the platform down vote others for no good reason. Down vote on hive should be used properly.
Give the community deadline of Year 2025. So that existing members can plan their Noah's ark. Then you can get rid of rewards, build dApps and bring new users through onboarding.
no, investors want shit coin hype and pump. They don't want steady/slow growth
Lots of people don't review their witness votes. We need to check every couple of months if the witness is active or inactive. I am a recent witness producing blocks but still behind of lots of inactive witnesses
To me it sounds like users with large stack want to get rid of reward pool because of lazyness. They probably just want to turn their account growth to completely passive. Am I totally off with this one?
Rich want to get richer, by not doing anything except screwing the little guy ...
Yeah, I'm getting those vibes every time I hear about removing of reward pool
Aye it's called life, and Hive is no exception
Good point! Many just pretend that it's an exception, something special but I guess that's life too 😀
hehe yes it is just a small version of life, we have the same characters in hive as we do in Hive ... good and the down right ******
If reward pool is problem, can r0d0n starts from himself not accepting them before pushing this on community? I mean his posts are monetized, why?
It is important to incentivize users to write content with an outside audience and try to reach them with the right use of keywords rather than focus entirely on community tags
Concerning AI generated content of Hive. I thought there are tools already in place to solve that problem. I have seen some accounts getting down voted for using AI and it has discourage alot of users from creating AI generated content.
Rewards with different tokens depending on the tags used is an awesome thing, I mean such rewards spur up more activities in a particular frontend maybe #3speak, #inleo, #ecency etc
I don't know why Downvote system here. What is the benefits of this system? Isn't it discourage the authors?
Downvotes certainly discourage content creators especially those who are genuinely creating content and get downvoted. Unfortunately, some big accounts still do that.
I think there are so many improvements that need to be made to the hive before major changes.Every day I see people having problems with front ends,with the hiveengine,these are,in a way,things that need to be fixed before major changes.IMO
Reminder set, though I am still at work, but I'll show my presence in the spaces as well as here.
Nice topic to discuss. Beat of luck for the show.
Good morning all! And welcome!
Good morning everyone!
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Hello my friends we are back at it again how is your day going
Hello Everyone. Its Good to be here and i'm ready to listen to all these Educative Topics.
ThIs space is going to be heated today. I can already feel it.
I am happy to be a part of this Townhall.
I am starting to feel the energy of this space, I think it’s going to very impactful to each and everyone of us on space right now, fingers crossed, let’s get this going guys..
now I am curious about how the reward would payout and how everyone would benefit from it.
I am glad this space was created
lol you are damn right removing the reward pool will piss off many people.
I've been having serious concerns on downvotes, the reasons posts are being downvoted and what to do to avoid that, I'm glad this issue is gonna be addressed, like I've been really curious
what would be the benefit to HP
I doubt if curators intentionally target an author to downvote them, they must have done something wrong like in my case I recycled a post and it was downvoted. I was a newbie then, but the downvote taught me a lesson.
I also think so too, and that should be the reason for having downvotes around. We become more careful as newbies or oldies when we have a little punishment waiting if we mess up 😅 but no, it would be wrong if some authors are intentionally targeted by curators.
Downvoting option breeds Negative Vibes and at such i think it should be gotten Rid of.
Yes, with respect to the DVs, I think it is good that it is something that, in case of a real abuse, protects the pool, but, intimidation, voting negative without any explanation, should not happen.
Question : does this downvote of a things has a trail,i mean downvoting trails
While the downvoting system is useful for regulating content and rewarding high-quality posts, it can also be used in a malicious way to target certain authors or posts.
I'm just waiting for the Spanish space and threadcast talking about the s
Rewarding helps boost the effort of bloggers, removing the reward pools could affect the content and it would take a long time to implement and there would be a strong damage as having reward pools tends to motivate and inspires though.
The use of AI generated images is why some go for AI posts, too. I have seen people use this while they earn more than others who are real with their contents.
Hive needs to grow in creativity. Not machine related contents.
It's so unsettling to see people actually earn well enough for a work they didn't do themselves and I've noticed that posts that are AI generated lack those personal feel that I love to read in contents. I hope we have more original authors than AI authors.
Original contents always give that real vibe. It speaks volumes on the presence of humanity, which is beautiful to see, and read.
I agree with the with the part where you said you instead of burning down a house because termites invested it, it is better to just take the time to remove the problem instead.
The reward on the blog helps the decentralisation of the chain, so my Question is how do we get creative order than staking reward on the chain? What else can be done to make it a better place?
So the distribution of the reward pools depends on your staking? so it is an APR depending on your size of stake mostly, I am not sure if this model can work never seen it anywhere.
2years ago someone talk about reward pool, reward are distributed through content creation but hive need additional way in which reward will be distribute. I
Question
What are the ideas that could be become the new rewards system for #hive if we remove the reward pool? #question
Remodelling the reward pool for Hive contents is a brilliant move. Time to get every content niche grow. Focusing rewards on community will make Hive grow.
I must admit, for me the average small user, the rewards pool is the rewards pool. We cannot change it and we just deal with any changes that happen as they happen.
That and it is all over my head.
uh oh! talking about getting rid of the reward pool again?
I understand the argument, but I think it's such a deep part of Hive's culture. If it were to happen it should be slowly over the course of AT LEAST a year. I think it'd be better to limit the inflation and create more of a market for HBD
honestly I don't really support the Ai or ChatGbt, using that as a content is as worst as copy from someone, because it's not coming from within. It's like your writing for the sake of writing.
To clear staking hive can help in the reward of content, and the user didn't write with AI?
In as much as the reasons behind downvotes is understandable, I've seen posts and account which haven't committed any heinous activity being downvoted and that's bad, no legitimate reason for such, I guess some are of bad motives.
it seems sensible that we are constantly looking for solutions even now as we are a small space, because if we are waiting to become big for that to happen then that could be catastrophic
I am agree with the point that we need to start thinking about the AI problem. There is no one size fit all solution, and this is why conversations like this one are important.
Maybe Hive develops an oracle/AI that tracks this these, add disclaimers on posts, something similar to what X does with community notes.
Removing the reward pool won't solve the issue of misinformation, AI generated content, etc
That is actually a very good idea. Something like community notes will draw people's attention to deceitful or unacceptable posts which helps people to not curate such posts. Removing the reward pools totally isn't acceptable to me.
this is awesome, I am here to listen to the topics that will be treated in this town hall.
I want to know about down votes.
Today the network is driven by rewards, but growing as we assume it will, it becomes a social network like any other... besides, as Khal said a while ago, at a certain point, communities may be able to bring rewards for creation of content within them by itself and the pool will be redirected in a better way.
Hey friends. Happy to be here.a
Removing the reward pool from Hive is going to hurt a lot of people. So far Hive is one of the most genuine platform where you get to earn because of your effort. Most countries from the third world countries rely solely on Hive.
The advent of AI generated post in my opinion pose a threat to content writer and defeat the purpose of having original content on the hive Blockchain, I'm in agreement with hive governance stand to frown against it usage.
Are we talking about hive rewards and hive marketing? #townhall
downvotes are a kind of bad energy, but without it I think there will be more defaulters on the hive platform. Many users will go against the rules on purpose
QUESTION
If you do not want to remove the Reward pool, what is the way forward with the remodeling? How do you remodel it without Hive losing it’s sense of decentralization?
Love to see the HIVE community more active on Spaces!
Admittedly, the rewards pool is the rewards pool for me as the typical modest user. We simply live with any changes that occur as they occur because we are powerless to alter it.
Eric I am sorry to say but there is bright in removing the reward pool. If some people are not OK with the reward pool then they can start refusing to accept rewards from their end.
Question: Downvotes are certainly a source of controversy, but are they really necessary? What I understand from them is that they are to control/decrease post rewards from authors who may be abusing the system, that's important, I understand that, but wouldn't it be something that discourages authors from trying something new too? Is there any other way to control this situation in relation to abuse of the Reward Pool other than downvoting?
QUESTION
Some people are upset to hear someone with Hive influence say that the reward pool should be eliminated. What would be the positives and negatives of this?
QUESTION
OK, if someone has been put on auto downvotes, how can that person come out of that situatsituation or will that person remain being downvoted all through his or her stay on hive
I think downvoting helps deter people from plagiarism in hive but I also think people may use it for personal reasons, but anyway as much as it deters people it might discourage people
Stake weighted control hurts decentralization
I think I support Eric on removing the focus of the reward and focusing it somewhere else but not removing the reward as a whole. Because people will always flow or encourage people to do more like what Eric is saying.
I believe that rather than eradicating the reward pool, I agree with Eric on the need to find ways or metrics to find a content worthy. They should find a balance on how to reward quality and viable contents
Let's think about downvotes as a form of discipline, it is just like punishing a student in school for misbehaving. And of course there's always warning before any punishment.
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Rewarding marketing of hive sounds more like more reward, not less reward.
Freedom is different & upvote-downvotes are different
Attention economy seems to be a way to try to replace the reward pool. However, I don't know if that would just make things too similar to web 2
This is a thorny issue for sure. AI or downvotes or whatever, good things will come on top
Hive is the best platform to earn rewards without any monetization. Here you can simply earn by creating content. Don't need any special skills.
On remodelling the Reward pool, I think rewarding contents based on traffic brought should be centered on the layer 2 tokens. This will give some more usecases and value to the community based tokens.
Having a reward system encourages creators to put more effort into their posts, knowing that they will be rewarded. Removing this system could take a long time to implement and could cause users to lose interest in the platform.
II believe that Hive will double in the next three years to five years especially with the monthly Hive marketing campaign zealy quest. I envisage more users getting onboard and enjoying the beauty of Hive.
I agree with you on that which means HIVE will get distributed to more people if the rewards pool will still be around by then. It will be interesting to see how things will pan out over the years.
That's a great take. I just hope they don't remove the reward pool because some people may be lose interest
I think it won't happen any time soon. As they said, there's a lot to consider
won't there be a an issue when the reward pool is removed?
Andd hive is more like a place for free speech h
Removing the rewardpools I don't think is the right solution. I believe that a better form of rewarding content creator, authors and active users of hive should be focus. It's really important to understand that encouragement is paramount!
This is what makes it a decentralized platform - the freedom of speech
Creating content on Hive and promoting it on Web 2 while bringing traffic to the blockchain is a good idea, and this is what many Hivians are doing on X. Supporting and encouraging these people through incentives will be a motivation to them while continuing in it.
Upvotes and downvotes are tools on the chain the way we designed, freedom is something else.
The whole rewards thing is a can of worms. Many authors aren't coming here as they will not be rewarded. Writing I am afraid It is not sexy if you are a new users.
Old users can post shite and it does get silly rewards. Gaming the rewards to get the whale upvotes by posting these pretty travel pictures is an irk. Especially as often those users take their rewards and offramp them off the ecosystem.
I totally agree with you!
yeah it is what it is !
I can't agree more. I think most new users find it hard to maintain writing on hive. They spend time writing quality posts but get no reward for it while old users do otherwise and get high rewards.
Yes and it is why I try and support and engage with new or smaller accounts. Not that my vote is worth anything, I just see the rich getting richer and Hive making it harder and harder to get newish users to stay.
Down votes are good for controlling contain abuse on the hive platform, but unfortunately many on the platform abuse it. I saw two hivers down voting each other's post for no just course.
I absolutely hate the cancel culture. I feel like it has gone beyond the original intent and now anybody can find anything offensive and seek its cancellation
Yes. You are buying today but one day you would be exhausted by keep buying
Freedom of speech is very different from Hive rewards.
I think AI can improve the content here and help us compete in the information sharing sphere
AI can be a significant problem if used incorrectly, especially by the lazy. However, we cannot deny that it is a useful tool. Are we the revolution of the web that inhibits technological tools? We need to find an appropriate middle ground.
Question:
How do you see "Opinion based Downvoting"?
If someone disagree with someone, and getting Downvoted for it.
yeah this is something that should be addressed, we ned to know should in case we come across something like this
I support WOO in his view as an extension of our freedom of speech and thinking of it we write more than some of us can actually talk about
#question
Is there any provision for those that are wrongly downvoted? Asking so we all can be aware and if there isn't, why?
I believe in original content not about freedom of speech, we all need to out in our efforts so that we can deserve the reward giving to us
Aside the downvotes that one will earn from creating ai content, it will surely make you a lazy blogger because you will never think to put up and structure a better content on your own. A blogger need to be creative and not just a writer
Utilisation of AI for content creation on Hive is good but it should be done with caution and responsibility. There should a conscious addition of the human flare.
the view count could be done on second layer frontends. no way to do it on multiple frontends. one of the post form last month got 200 views on one front end and 50 on another and who knows how accurate that is.
Exactly, Hive is an extension of freedom of speech, we must not be nullified this opportunity, we've got the freedom to air out our opinions and that I appreciate
Woo!!! Closing in 100k WOO. But yeah, some giveaways start to feel like spam....
hive is a block chain that I personally advertise to the web 2 users, it just that sometimes they are interest and when they don't get curated they give up, only few of them knows the potential of hive block chain
hive gives us the freedom of speech the web 2 platforms deny us, no central authority to tell you what you should and shouldn't do.
Great points
The rewards pool is just the best way of keeping people glued to the platform. Imagine it is removed, what will be the major aim of engaging. The rules in hive space is as a result of the value it presents.
So, is AI content related okay to use? When I camcame onboard, that wasn't how I saw Hive. I believe the blockchain needs things real not Ai content that brings million views.
Freedom refers to the ability to create and post content without any restrictions or censorship, while upvoting and downvoting are mechanisms for users to evaluate and reward content.
Removing the reward pool is an interesting idea. However the question is how to incentivize users to keep creating and posting content.
A solution is to have a layer 2 reward system and zero base layer reward pools
Giveaway posts are the same as low-effort posts, creating post with a link only for example, I saw a bit nowadays. Just something like " hey this article is interesting".
Correct me if I am wrong is Hive not a decentralized platform for users to share content and get their voices heard. It won't be decentralized anymore if rewards pools are taking away.
Reward pool is for real users not for AI to farm
#Question: Reward pool... Using of AI will be a big reason why reward pool have to be removed from content. Because I think the more people use AI there won't be a original content that worth of rewards
Everyone on Hive is farming reward. Using AI or without using AI
Since I use the AI, it is a very important part on my life. I decided not to take it like an adversary, but like a very useful tool.
Surely Hive has the best reward pool system. I love the staking system most. By staking we can grow our career in here. Even we can curate others to encourage them.
yes, if there is a rule for post to be posted, then people will know what to write about or what not to write about
AI serves as a powerful tool for providing assistance across various domains, aiding in tasks, decision-making, problem-solving, and much more
I think that a great idea not for farming rewards
We already promoting Hive outside Hive Blockchain like X, I think Posh reward makes more Hivers engaging on this program.
AI's are not original contents and as such, anyone who makes use of AI generated content are obviously not original contents and shouldn't be given credits.
AI is best for researches.
QUESTION
AI is a tool for assistance as I understood but I don’t understand when we classify AI as a means of plagiarism which would lead to Downvote, when do you classify AI as being wrong on HIVE?
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I agree that Hive is an extension of our freedom of speech. Most of my posts are based on real-life experiences. Things I experience in the outside world
That's why I see Hive as a safe space for me where I can bare out my feelings.
Definitely, AI should be used as a tool and not an opportunity to leverage on it to farm rewards but I think a team should be put in place to monitor contents infused with AI rather than punishing everyone
It should be almost as easy to train AI to do a better job at detecting abuse as it is to use AI to farm rewards
AI is meant to be of assistance to us but I wonder how people do copy and paste and actually not their own ideas or suggestion. AI tends to over shadow our brain abilities and that bad
Downvoting AI generated posts is a nice move and I also support it big time, Ai is meant to be a tool to assist content creators not used to generate a whole post and at the end of the day, there is ownership and reward claims, very bad.
Community policing solves all these problems with AI content on Hive and checking the actions of bad actors. We can incentive people to protect the change and make it transparent. Hivewatchers does a great job but I think it is better if we make it open to everyone to protect the change and we can get rid of the dreaded downvotes
THat means we can use AI in creating and making content better, not leveraging on it to boost our reward on content?
Removing reward because of not being able to have a high stake wount be encouraging. Yeah! Hive is web 3 and we have freedom here. I still want to ask, if the content Creator's participate in voting the witnesses, what's there benefits
AI is a powerful tool for many different uses. I mainly use it for brainstorming and generating ideas. Then I as a human picks up those ideas, research and develop them into a quality ever-green content. Using AI to game the rewards pool is something that is entirely wrong as long as I am concerned.
Imagine zealy marketing be like come to hive we have rewards..
then just to cause drama in townhall, there comes a witness that says get rid of hive rewards and ask users to play ubuntu and kumbaya and post for free and monetize on Layer 2.. nice.
Removing the reward pool on hive is something I will never support. Reason is that hive is still a growing platform and needs more users. The reward pool is changing lives around the and helping us recruit more users.
I total agree with the last speak that there should be some form of reward for users who shares their content outside the hive Blockchain,that on its own is a marketing and awareness strategy d attract more people,I hope this is encouraged
Hello it's best to learn here as per how the downvote is actually going to be in the nature. If it going to be more as that of upvote , or it going to get effected upon breaking rules?
Quality content in Hives perspective isn't what people search for on the search engine, so is that the most valuable mindset to grow Hive?
While the reward pool is presently what it is, the most important thing for me is it being used to promote Hive. Like the #Hiverally where Ruben got sponsored for his photography skill. Still learning what I can about its distribution thou.
The AI tool really sounds great if Ai would determine the rewards, I believe there will exist some equity and equilibrium on the reward system. However, the AI will have to be a very top notched coding with a strong security system.
I need a trail to vote for me. Even my #actifit posts :P
Yeah, I do agree with that as well, AI should be used as a tool in adding more value and also making our content look exceptional. But then we need to be careful from copy and paste directly from the Ai generated post as our own content, I think the Hivewatchers have indicated that if you wish to publish an ai generated content, you should cancel the rewards and also indicate that in your post as well. That is pretty cool but you will earn nothing for that so it will just be a cosine 90 degree work, lol. Hahaha, just be creative and write from your own mind and earn rewards instead of wasting your time and energy in publishing ai generated content.
#Question
Is there a reward for those who are wrongly downvoted
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The problem is not the use of artificial intelligence to make posts, but how it is done. It should be used as a tool to help solve problems that we humans have, such as lack of creativity. 1 🧵
or to help remember words and/or synonyms that help make the post better to read. When we use it to make an entire post, modifying just a few words, then we face a problem. 2 🧵
Hive Rewards given to Authors is a boost to them and serve as a way of encouragement to show how much you care. I want to learn more on Space, improve my writing skills and learn new techniques too especially on how to use AI.
I am new in Hive Blockchain. I am so glad that I got a platform like this. I didn't even imagine that we can get paid for our article, blogs or stuffs. Thanks to the community.
I still wanna deliberate on wrong downvotes, it's always disheartening. How about there be a check for every downvotes, looking out for reasons for the downvotes to see if they're genuine and right
I was thinking any form of AI assisted post was prohibited on hive.
It's scary to see those downvotes on people's posts. So I avoided any form of AI assistance.
I will love to have a clear understanding this topic.
#threadcast already broke for me
is that how hive vote. They Watch the hive a blog can bring before they hive their vote? I’m not really sure but the reward pool should be something that every one can benefit from
It can be disheartening to see people who use AI images and text earning more than those who create original content. This is supposed to be looked into.
What an amazing contribution by Eric .F.
Removing the reward pool isn't the best because that is one of the motivational tool for promoting the Hive.
yeah I think the idea of promoting Hive through getting people involved even when they are not necessarily on hive using the reward as key way of inviting people is really good.
lol I have no problem with Leo's ads, no one has been able to create other ways of bringing money into the system before this.
BTW, my posts are all worth $70,000, this is undebatable.
Suggestion
Maybe going forward AI based tools can be used to help generate keywords or suggest keywords & topics around which the creators can write an organic post so that it helps in getting featured on search engines and brings in views and interactions to the blockchain
Monetization of AI contents cannot help grow Hive. It would noe become a thing of more number of posts than actual human engagement which is what we need.
I love the perspective Khal, let the reward pool be fair, not selfish gain, it's time to spread stakes and add more value to the ecosystem not only the state holders. Great one Khal
AI is good but its not giving an authentic story of your Experience and it's kin of NO NO.
I am following your points Khal, keep it going, your 2 cents is more than that, thanks for that beautiful 2 cents.
Threadcast is down due to alot of traffic and we are just thirty minutes into the space.
While we go on and on saying Hive is a decentralized platform, sometimes alot of things that go down here does feel like a centralized platform and in all honesty that defeats what Hive stands for.
sometimes posts are not valuable but because of the automated votes, they just gets most of the votes
Those people using Ai to make a blog or content here is kinda lazy and dumb. I feel sorry and sad for those people who make effort executing great and original quality content but they feel unseen and unmotivated getting with less rewards
If only authors that plagiarize with the use of AI know they can use AI to do so much more that would be of help towards their improvement on writing on hive to gain honest upvote.
I agree that users who write entirely artificial intelligence (AI) stuff or plagarise contents be downvoted, however it would be great if onboarders inform newcomers of this before registering them in Hive.
Those questions about reward pool are cool. I like the way people turn in
What's going on? I
Right? We ought to stop spending money that's not worth it, that point got me
User
I don't see the reason why downvote is needed in the hive blockchain. It looks like oppression to the weak ones. A correction via the comment section would do all the magic.
I agree with your point. If certain projects aren't monetized, it will not be sustainable to run for a significant period of
Seriously though, I think content has been valuable, it's been bringing most of the activity to the chain and keeping most of the user base. But it leaks out too easily and we have all sucked at outreach and building circular systems up until very very recently.
The fact that downvotes is what we are talking about is something that I'm glad about. Some people scares us online because of their power of downvotes. Something like this happen some months ago when two people are fighting, there are lots of people that suffer from this downvotes.
Imagine a post of 4 dollars upvotes and six dollars downvotes
I’m not sure but from what I heard from the speaker, the blog has to be valuable before they can be partake of the reward pool. So what does qualify someone for the reward pool and how do they know what value to give ?
I am glad I made it to todays show.
Could the increase in the period for claiming rewards, if adjusted to 10 days, provide greater stability for the network, or would it not be worth it due to the volatility of HIVE?
What passes for a valuable post is subjective and then how do we fix that? Because I feel like a post may be valuable to its creator but the audience may not feel the same
we need more Dapp and more features to hive
The idea by Khal makes a lot of sense. It would be objectifying the idea of impact of content linked to the quality it has. You'd be doing something quite interesting. #hive #web3
Are you guys able to see this thread?
not always. It comes and goes
Question: We know that witnesses are a super important part of Hive, but I've always been curious to know why the number of witnesses who sign most of the blocks or make decisions, such as the % of HBD's APR is exactly 20 witnesses, how was this number decided? Would there be any side effects if it were changed to 10 or 30 for example? Could this make anything worse or better about everything at Hive?
the value and originality of an AI generated post can't match that of a content written by a person ,as much as an AI generated post poses threat to content writing it makes work easier, but I'll rather choose originality
We should use ai as an important tool to aid us creates good content. This is really a good statement.
Contents should be valued based on the money generated by attracting more page view. But how can we know the views are genuine and true, not mere generated.
I'm so excited to see the new features. It's amazing how y'all don't stop at nothing. Always thinking of what else to do
I think we should focus more on improving the value of second layer tokens, it would reduce the dependence on Hive as a reward token. Each community should create more utility for their tokens.
I wouldn't mind phasing out 1st layer rewards over a very long time frame, over the course of like 5 or 10 years, which will allow for Hive to continue to attract creators without causing any shock to the system. The second layer isn't developed enough and there aren't enough players. Not even close
I feel removing the reward pool would not exactly be a good thing. A lot of people who join hive (atleast from this part of the world) like the fact that one can make use of hive and earn something from creating content.
Eyes on Hive was introduced one time but that project didn’t last. it did help bring traffic to some posts though
Determining the value of a content doesn't entirely sound like a bad thing. The question is, is there a way to.dertermine that? Looking at the long run, will it be of great benefit to Hive? Will there be a disadvantage to it?
Am not seeing peoples comment
So far, I will agree that many contents on Hive are underutilized and others are over utilized. If we can design a model that rates content using defined variables, it can be better
I'm beginning to fall in love with this space show, the topics are incredible, good news is coming to proofofbrain and I'm seeing massive adoption in that aspect
for me I will say the reward pool is quite good, but if their anything to increase it, it's also welcome, but for now, every aspect of rewarding user's in the Blockchain is pretty cool and awesome and inleo is doing so much to increase it too which is awesome.
Hey man, I strongly agree with you on this, I also the love reward pool, good, and we are also open to any further increments, but I think the reward pool is quite awesome the way it is, no removal should made in terms of the reward pool
Content creation really is just one form of distribution... But, it's the main one, right? Most people at Hive just produce content. So I think there should be greater attention paid to producers in general, regardless of the niche.
Absolutely, sustainability is a critical aspect for the long-term success and acceptance of blockchain technology, including platforms like Hive. It's essential to explore and implement eco-friendly solutions
am happy to be here and am learning a lot already and i know i will learn more.
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I do see some upvotes done on content that it payout has elsaped, now my concern is, how important or are those rewards still going to be given to the author.
Maybe the statistics or impressions is a way to change the rewarding system and will encourage more engagement. At the end of the day, hive wants to thrive on engagement and more engagement = more rewards will encourage users to engage
this is tough, but coming to look at it, do you really think we have enough user database to achieve this idea. Even at that, how and who would then vote for the witnesses because they need us to get approval because it is dependent on the hivers
Evergreen content reward algorithm designed by INLEO would make a lot of difference and impact in the Hive reward pool. This is because it rewards Content beyond the 7-day payout window. I don't think this is applicable on 3Speak.
Question!
I will like to have an insight into the hive reward system and how it operates.
Like;
i think this plays to the fact that there is a social layer in this chain. so it's important to get people to know, like and trust you. that seems to attract the most engagement which in turn, creates potential for more rewards.
i want to ask why those who downvote content will downvote not just the content that's not original but all yet to payout post, why ist like that?
supporting and incentivizing hivers truly serve as a motivation for them to continue their contributions and engagement in the platform.
so it's a big idea to distribute the hive token.
upvote is a form of engagements and strengthen the ecosystem. It add value to the content and interaction by the users. It is a form of which tokens are distributed
Honestly that will make a lot of difference.
This is a problem that people can face, which is the 7 days to receive votes only. This is not the case on Web2 platforms, where a video can earn money for years and years, and this can end up driving influencers away from our network.
QUESTION: what is the stance or relation of the proof of brain when it comes to ai? And vice versa #question
I must say content creator need a Decentralized platform to share their stuffs. We don't need to be controlled by any central authority. Hive is the best DeFi platform.
Original content no doubt get rewards because readers fill motivated to read and know more about the topic because is something they might have heard before
If i ever watch my 3speak videos more than once, it's because I love my face, not because I'm trying to milk the system.
Hahaha... I do this many times and it is because I love my face and the lady singing while I keep beaming with smiles 😃
I agree with stackers. Distribution is key. We need hive in as many hands as possible. This is what I think we should prirotise. We can come up with more efficient ways to distribute the token without disrupting the system. The key word here for me is efficiency.
Yeah, better start, more rewards
More inflation
That's the benefit of just how much effort to input
The method used by 3speak is the best and amazing because, it is simple and straightforward, your content has a direct relationship with the reward.(statistically driven concept)
I had issues with 3speaks some weeks ago, my post was upvoted and also was deducted a few minutes later, can I ask what was the problem, what am I not doing right.
Question
Can we think of NFT voting? That means, ownership of a set of NFT determines a range of reward count a content can receive.
I would love to her about the proposal.. Shoot!
Lots oof proposals are going on.
Am happy this evening
The quality contents on pinmapple is high? I'm really gonna check out and get to know more about it. Communities with high quality contents is worth being supported
The negative votes will always be a fundamental part in Hice as it helps to maintain order and avoid abuse on the platform, only that some people take it personally without at least talk or resolve before. Many of us live on Hive.
Am happy I heard about rewards the more effort we put the more rewards we gain or get, this is amazing. And rewards I will say motivates users to do more and be active, including engaging fully, and this is what we want here on hive.
DHF, wow. Just a little hive power of mine can make an impact, making sure to vote proposals
Oh, the thread is back.
I keep on asking, did we still need the downvoting system on hive, I sincerely think their is no need for that, contents that looks fishy can be ignore or such users get mute, bringing in downvote is not really a way forward base on my opinion.
alright, this might be controversial but why don't proposals get as much sticks or scrutiny as content on hive. I have seen a few rubbish proposals approved and back.
If we are going the efficiency route we need do so holistically. One of the reason people people do not trust the system is because it is seen to favour a few.
Wow, that's cool
She's from the spanish terrain❤️
Tsun speaking 🫠🫠.
If people are trying to bring value to hive with their content, how will admins know the different between an original blog and an organic content. Will there be tools in place to know the good content
I can't see any comments
Good she talks about users with automatic vote, now here comes my view, do we still need that in the Blockchain or what level will a users attain on the Blockchain for them to get to the level of getting upvote automatically, irrespective of what they posted
where will all the reward from the reward pool goes if we remove the reward pool?
seems to be a lot of discussion about that, but mainly it would be stake, and those that hold stake. but it's all just speculation right now.
I concur with the last speaker that people that publish their content outside of the hive blockchain ought to receive some sort of compensation.That itself is a marketing and publicity tactic to draw in more to Hive
Guys, we have knocked down the servers again haha.
there are certainly a lot of things to be done before removing the rewards pool... we have to have something really functional and that allows for large-scale growth... today it would be difficult to attract new users without the rewards pool, mainly because even if people understand and like the value of hive, they would give up at the first infrastructure difficulties without the pool
Rather than getting rid of the reward pool as an incentive tool, we should be focusing on increasing the ways you can earn hive from "posts", threads, shorts, livestreams, etc.
I care about the reward pool o
this is very logical
Would love to reply on other peoples comments to the threadcast but can't see any of the comments except my own #feedback
The downvote is a great tool, although that many try to creat educational content that can be of great impact to readers, but their are still some who makes post that contradict the rules of hive, so those post should have a downvote.
Negative votes are necessary to maintain balance and to express when we don't like something.
Agree with Khal here, we can potentially move away from post rewards once we build up new incentive models and monetary flow on Hive. First we need to develop that in a big way and on a bunch of different project
Exactly my man, khal has been making some awesome points since the beginning of the town hall
starkerz (I think) on 3speak account also killed it, and yabamatt.
lol let's just become blurt everyone
There should be a mechanism to appeal against downvote. So if a person is abusing the power of downvote then it can be addressed.
The real problem is when they are abused or abused personally, without any justification. Sometimes, it would be favorable to know why negative votes are given in order to improve the errors.
Whaleshares had some good people but I didn't see a powerful incentive structure being built or any real ability to create a circular ecosystem
i can't see people's comment to engage
I still don't want to believe some AI generated content do get upvote in the community, if it happens, I think that's where downvote needs to come in , for no reason should an AI generated content get upvote in the Blockchain
This would only make Hive more centralized and make it more and more like other networks that have tried and failed to build what is built here!
In my opinion, what needs to be done is to build more infrastructure and improve the one we have in order to grow. Without infrastructure, no matter what remuneration model Hive has, at some point it will fail.
What we have is unique and of course it's still flawed. But what we need to improve is more infrastructure.
Definitely 💯
When you earn a token, you gain alternative incomes
so many ways to earn from hive, all this are only possible when you are consistent
Hive is diverse and I really love the ability to do a lot of things. Staking on layer 2 tokens, earning hive tokens, engagement and also getting rewards back in return. I see it as an investment opportunity too.
Tokens are given both to big whales and small whales despite the inflation rate. Contents rewarded based on 7 days is recommended in the system. A good idea as your value is noticed.
Perhaps the solution would be to look for alternatives so that the rewards are better distributed.
Definitely, I agree with her, hive is changing life in many ways, taking hive Ghana as an example, lot of projects has being put in place as a result of the reward pool, so removing it, won't that affect their projects
Yes that’s true. Am from Ghana and we are doing a lot with hive. We have the note home project and the hive students have project as well. We visit schools and talk to them about hive and this has changed lives as well as the boreholes.
@deeanndmathews
I love your points!
This is why I've never underestimate #hive when I got to know about it.
People should strive to create content, using artificial intelligence would be dishonest.
Hive is a Web3 blockchain, its main features are decentralization and a cryptocurrency-based economy.
I agree that negative votes are a regulatory mechanism, but sometimes they don't work that way.
It's a 2 way solution, one good and one bad. I believe that it is necessary to be able to regulate the rewards of a post, therefore, we discourage the author who wants to abuse the hive from continuing to do what he does. It can also be something that scares those who really do the right job.
It is something we must use wisely
I agree that it is necessary to know how to use it wisely and thus avoid abuses.
Exactly, we have a good way to control and bypass those who want to find a way to make easy money, but even so, intelligence when using dv is necessary! A hug.
Now we are talking way forward!
God has come to grace the space!
Your wish is granted 😅
That's a really great idea @bitcoinman
One actually can get fiat directly into Hive through PeakD ... getting out is much harder, though.
Those are some good points, indeed.
Thank you, Arcange. A longer view is important -- there is so much growth on Hive in the long view!
Task, this is the best explanation of Layer 1 and Layer 2 projects I've ever heard, and I've been here four years ... thank you!
Whale wars are an issue ... I've been in the crossfire of whales trying to keep each other from growing, and that's not fair to anyone.
lol can we really change who makes the top 20 witness spot? 👀 Do we want to have this conversation.
damn! I have been on this chain for too long. I know little and too much at the same time. It is a blessing and curse.
Change is good ... voting for witnesses that we agree guide change that will help the whole community is important. Governance is important!
the values of the hive cannot be underestimated because it keeps g
Thank you again for the long view, Arcange.
Thank you so much for hosting this ... see everyone next month!
Thanks for this amazing space guys
Nice Nifty and Eric, keep up the excellent work and you people are amazing. Hats off to you.
How do downvotes contribute to content quality on online platforms, and what role do they play in maintaining a healthy curation environment
Every writer try there best to be creative to avoid been downvoted. Downvoting really play an important in the block chain
it was unfortunate that I did not attend the town hall talk. I'm just waiting for the next, if any. And I was so grateful to have listened to some of the ideas in the recap
I finally found the twitter feed
We can't remove the reward for content creation, Hive loses its purpose.
They carved a stunning bench out of an enormous trunk that was just laying around. 😍
#ladiesofhive #nature #photography
This is so nice! People are just so damn creative
So serene too.
Yeah
waoh so creative and natural, I love it.
Thank you for liking it. Yes, it is indeed very beautiful.
i am seeing more new faces on inLeo these days. This is a good thing. We are getting to our goal gradually
It surely gets better, the community is putting in a lot of work!
yeah and I love to see it
It would be a dreem come true for the Lions
agreed. I am trying to engage with them. To show how useful this really is.
Engagement is key! Without it, they won't stay. Keep up the good work
wish more people would power up though. I always see 0.00 on threads with 5 or 6 likes
I agree with @nonsowrites. The more we educate people about staking their tokens the more informed choices they will make.
I am of the opinion that people should do as they see fit with their tokens. If the platform generates more revenue it won't matter if people power up or not.
Also we can educate people on the importance of powering up and distributing rewards to better improve content discovery and token distribution
of course they can do what they want with their tokens. I just think it’s a little foolish for people to be playing with shitcoins (as many do) when they hardly put any money into the coin they use the most, and often sell it instead. I used to, til I realized Hive had more staying power and was underhyped rather than overhyped.
one of the many assumptions we have is that people are selling their hive/InLeo for other coins. That might be true but not for everyone. For instance, I sell mine for fiat to cover my expenses. This is more like a job to me than an investment (although it is both).
The bottomline is we mostly cannot control what people do with their token but we can do is create circular economies around hive and InLeo. This way the value retains within the hive ecosystem.
I get it. I’m not talking about everyone here. I’m talking about the people constantly seeking the next 100x token, as if they’ll catch it or as if it couldn’t be Leo or Hive. I have seen too many people on chain who lost money on projects or scams they read up on for 5 minutes. You are right though. I’m just encouraging more people to put their money where their mouth is. If you need the money to eat, then you are doin just that.
Yeah, I get your point. We all cannot be chasing moon coins. Hive is promising. All the recent efforts to build and promote the chain goes to show that we really mean business.
It's better to focus on one thing or a few things than chasing everyone. I have learnt this much as well. This way, you are able to commit the time, energy and resources needed to grow.
I’m talking to the “former selves” I often see in other people
Hahaha, it's really sad but I guess that happens because most of those users are new to the chain.
lol I wonder! I see a lot of people always seeking the next 100x coin and gambling their money away rather than building their hive , Leo and bitcoin stacks. To each their own (I went through that phase too), but after 7 years in the space, I feel like the only reason to invest in something that you aren’t really familiar with is if you wanna be a full time professional day trader
Its just really sad but I guess they will have to just learn the hard way, hehe
We're making tons of progress on our onboarding goals. Really awesome to see and we've got 2 new official influencers onboarded as ambassadors for INLEO on X
Excited to see them bring in hundreds of new faces to INLEO over the next 3 months
looking forward to seeing more people join inleo. As a content creator this means more people will get to read my posts
Also, as someone who enjoys microblogging, I get to interact with more people and build my network.
More users
More engagement
More and revenue
It's a win-win
This is absolutely right, the more people who join, the more we all benefit
Not just as $LEO holders but as creators and daily users
i haven't been on my A-game mainly because I am planning my wedding and that's all I can think of these days. However, from January i will be giving my 100%.
Planning on starting a podcast, possibly with my wife and just take my content game to the next year. That's goal.
:-D would love to watch/listen to you are your wife talking about whatever
yeah we argue a lot so it is going to be spicy. 🫣
All the best in the preparations for the wedding that’s going to go beautifully as planned and can not wait to see the fire you will come with there after.
thanks man. I am coming back with a bang!
I think you are doing really well because it is not easy to plan a wedding and still be this active here but you are doing it.
It would be nice to start up a podcast and I hope it would be with your wife
Giving your 100% on what? :P
being here everyday and churning content like task master 🥴
ha ha I thought you wanted to give 100% to your wife :D
and that too much... 🤭
Planning a wedding is a lot of work no matter how big or small. That's why I let my parents handle planning mine.
lucky you 🥹 it's been a rollercoaster for me but I am happy doing it for I and my fiancé. She deserves everything
Yeah @nonsowrites, I was very lucky that my parents loved entertaining and planning and throwing parties.
That's awesome. You're a great fiance too.
Enjoy!
Have a great day😆
!ALIVE
!BBH
!CTP
@nonsowrites! You Are Alive so I just staked 0.1 $ALIVE to your account on behalf of @ lisamgentile1961. (8/20)
The tip has been paid for by the We Are Alive Tribe through the earnings on @alive.chat, feel free to swing by our daily chat any time you want, plus you can win Hive Power (2x 50 HP) and Alive Power (2x 500 AP) delegations (4 weeks), and Ecency Points (4x 50 EP), in our chat every day.
Good Morning and Thank you, @youarealive! Enjoy your day.😀
@nonsowrites! Your Content Is Awesome so I just sent 1 $BBH (Bitcoin Backed Hive) to your account on behalf of @lisamgentile1961. (9/50)
Good Morning and Thank you, @bbhbot! Enjoy your day.😀
This is so heartwarming to see for someone who started off with no HP on Hive almost four years ago. #motivation
I was upvoting a thread and the slider reminded me that 3% of my upvote is now worth $0.1. When did that happen?
who is that? and yes, it's awesome!!
Not sure who. A random guy who threads a lot but does not blog :P
ahhhhh that's you!! lol that's amazing man!
ha ha thanks
prove it lol
Shit. @khaleelkazi outsmarted me :P
very nice, great value to be at!
It grows for real
I distribute as many as I can.
Great to see you on threads.
Makes me wonder what a 100% vote from you is worth 😜
I will never know :P
Feel free to test it 😂
I will. For sure.
That is awesome
I am growing and it is evident.
That's certainly an awesome feeling. Your persistence and showing up pays off.
Yes. Not sure if I am here to make money or to enjoy the platform :)
But that is the beauty of it, @rmsadkri! You don't have to choose!
You can enjoy the platform and the tips and upvotes are a nice ancillary benefit.
That's true. making money is secondary.
Good Morning @rmsadkri!
And you will make money as long as you're active and engaging in the community.
Have a great Sunday😆
!ALIVE
!BBH
!CTP
@rmsadkri! You Are Alive so I just staked 0.1 $ALIVE to your account on behalf of @ lisamgentile1961. (6/20)
The tip has been paid for by the We Are Alive Tribe through the earnings on @alive.chat, feel free to swing by our daily chat any time you want, plus you can win Hive Power (2x 50 HP) and Alive Power (2x 500 AP) delegations (4 weeks), and Ecency Points (4x 50 EP), in our chat every day.
@rmsadkri! Your Content Is Awesome so I just sent 1 $BBH (Bitcoin Backed Hive) to your account on behalf of @lisamgentile1961. (7/50)
guess determination and patience does pay off
it does. it did for me.
Yahh i can see that
🚀
Let me share my $0.1 love :P
Appreciate it, I need all the $LEO I can get
Might be an unpopular opinion but am personally not a fan of autovotes+trails on threads of premium paying accounts.
Genuine opinions are worth appreciating.
There are no autovotes for premium accounts. 95% of my threads are unattended/not voted :)
ah okay, glad to hear! but hope more manual curation occurs! I try to look in here daily but got a lot on my plate at the moment :D
There is a trail that Khal carries but he manually upvotes. He upvotes premium accounts but that does not mean he is not upvoting non premium accounts. I upvote everyone I interact with.
Didn't even know it can be done but I agree with you. It'll just create those unhealthy little circles voting each other instead of the content.
It definitely needs reviewing in my opinion
maybe that's not what's happening and I may have mistranslated thing, but would be a breath of fresh air to keep comments curated rather than automating it.
I agree. Manual engagement is a better approach.
Manual curations should be encouraged
wont that be time consuming doing it manually
I agree.
I think threads should be done manually to encourage engagement
Mmm maybe there is people voting on threads and they see a lot of premium accounts since most of the really active users are premium now, but there is no trail or automation on the premium accounts.
I didn't know there were autovotes on threads.
However it is always good to have different opinions within a community.
The whole reward voting thing is a complex issue. Like why are travel blogs generally the most rewarded and often those people take most of their Hive out of ecosystem?
I would agree with you.
Good to see there is no aumatic downvotes on threads though...
I thought there is manual curation,
I think I may have received some thread autovotes, but not for being premium. I think it's usually a vote trail from one user or other. I would get those rare trails even prior to upgrading to premium. I don't think it's a premium feature.
I've not been doing so well with my threads goals, now I'm thinking how to get back to my goals.
First things first, show up daily no matter what, that always works.
#goals #thread247
It's even hard to show up daily sometimes. I have not been doing well too but I am trying my best these days. I hope you keep up with the goal.
It's actually the hardest, hehe but let's see how it goes. I just have to put my mind to it and now I have 😊.
I have just been showing up to vote. I post a thread occasionally but I've been on hive since day 1. I find that I go in spurts and I'm not too hard on myself
That's great. Not been too hard on oneself is the best thing.
make sure you are enjoying yourself!
I'd try to 😊
try to use it organically. Share things you care about and invite your friends to join, this way it will be more fun for you.
Thank you so much for the suggestion, I'd consider that 😊.
I got and idea that might could help a lot to influencer with the transition into LEO.
Can we have templates? But i mean predesign templates like carousel, slides or any other standard format out there. Like in Linkedln.
#feedback
Getting the platform to work consistently would be a good start
For that, you need to wait while creating a personal brand or go to a platform that does work consistently until this one does too.
The latter is exactly what they've been doing
Great idea and yes. We can build some templates
I'll add it to our roadmap
I have been enjoying this premium subscription and it's just 10 days remaining to renew another one.
#inleo #premium
Just like you, I have less than a week to renew my #inleopremium
Nice one. I hope you have your 10 HBD to renew again.
I won a prize from the Leo team, so it's already sorted out 🤭
Hahaha. Lucky you 🙄😃😃
Yeah, I thank God 🙌
Whoo hoo!!!
Down the hill he goes on his go-kart. 🤩
#ladiesofhive #nature #photography
That is so much fun! Childhood is so much fun
When life is free from any stress whatsoever.
Childhood is the best time to make the most of your life so when it's messed up, it won't be good at all
1/💪
Unless you’ve been hiding under the ring you should know that WOO Land is live & is getting closer to being used in game (allowing players to earn rewards). Here's some WOO Land things im excited about:
#woo #woogame @wrestorgonline
2/💪
[Promotions and Game Growth]
Creating promotions and sharing intel with them to grow their confidence in the game and have it translate into the market cap
#woo #woogame @wrestorgonline
@solymi has advice for handling the Internet:
https://inleo.io/threads/view/solymi/re-leothreads-2g128d4ua
#gosh
Llega Diciembre 🎅🏻 y con ello, las costumbres navideñas 🎄, cada barrio, tiene las suyas. En el mío, la vuelta a la manzana con la maleta 🧳, el 31/12, es obligatoria! 😂 y en tu caso?
#hivecuba #tradiciones #navidad #spanish
It's frustrating staying in an area with no electricity. I am depending on my power bank with 80% battery and my phone is at 23%. Trying to preserve for my journey back to my base tomorrow. I still have things to do on my phone and if not, I might just pause all activities for now.
#gmfrens
GM to you & thank you for using the #gmfrens tag on Threads. Listen to the most recent Hive Community Town Hall!
GM tokens are now on Hive Engine! To OPT OUT of comments visit @gmfrens.
It will be really hard for you if your power bank runs down but I'm sure it would be enough if you manage it well.
Good luck!
don't worry God will help you and your battery might lead through out the end of your journey.
Hola todos.
Le invito a mi reciente video:
Pascualita y el Tobogán Mágico - Cuento Infantil [esp-eng]
Link en los comentarios.
#espavlog #thereads
#espavlog
https://peakd.com/hive-145796/@germanandradeg/xfwrdsxm
A great way to end the month of November with a level 2 Gold Larissa Kerato. The burn value of this card is 50,000 $DEC or 135.733 SWAP.HIVE or 48.86 USD.
Thanks, #splinterlands!
#splinterlands #play2earn #blockchaingaming #splintershards #someeofficial
A gorgeous sky while I drive to work. 😍
#ladiesofhive #nature #liotes #photography
It looks beautiful and I can see several color combinations in the sky and it increased the beauty of the sky.
Thank you for the appreciation. Yes, in real life, it has some magical effect on the mood too.
Humans are inherently dynamic beings, we grow, change, and evolve throughout our lives. Do you ever think it's possible for two people to stay faithful to each other for their entire lives?
#ladiesofhive #relationships
of course, I think it is a hundred percent possible to stay faithful together in a relationship. Firstly you'll need to understand a whole lot of principles.
Know what your partner loves the most and have those features in you.
sometimes people get to change, and you discover you don't understand him/her anymore.
Those principles may become a burden at this point.
Anyway, they call it love
Well, you're right. One of the reasons why people change is purpose. Every relationship has a purpose or expectation so when those purpose or expectations aren't met they tend to depart.
Yep. And the other person suffers the pain of heartbreak😪.
So, know the purpose of the relationship, what type of relationship are you building with a person, is it for benefits or forever.. it's up to the duo's
Yep. It’s up to the people involved.
Proper communication and understanding is important from the onset of any relationship.
Thank you so much for stopping by.
It was a delightful topic dear fren
I think it’s possible though. Change is the most constant thing in life so it is paramount to happen. But I have seen people who stay faithful and true. For instance most couples. It takes a lot but it happens.
#freecompliment
You are right. Change is normal.
I've also seen old couples staying true to themselves.
It requires understanding, honesty, and love to achieve that.
Thanks for stopping by❤️
I don’t know if it’s natural, but I do like loyalty and cooperation and building something over time so I promise my partner that. As for attraction to other people, we manage it as we go along. I actually wrote about this recently. Very controversial ideas in there 😆
It will be controversial indeed😆, the topic itself is complex.
Loyalty and cooperation is extremely important. Though people with these traits are rare.
I'm glad to know you've kept your promise to your partner.
It is possible, but fidelity-- as with anything else-- has to grow, change, and evolve. If partners in a relationship stay static, that's asking for trouble later.
Definitely! There will be trouble if change doesn’t take place. May be because of malice.
It could be due to malice, but not necessarily. More likely is simply complacency, taking things for granted. This is where things become static.
oh yeah! I get you.
On my side, we say I do overlook, but not everything.
We can't forget the wrong that was done, but we can choose not to hold it against the other person. Relationships are like ships: both need to be steered, and both need constant course corrections.
You are right. Supporting and correcting each other is very important in a long-term relationship.
I'm learning everyday🥰.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
It's one thing to use a sharing platform that's full of bugs, but a whole other level of #trust when an exchange is full of them as well. I want to buy $LEO, but #tribaldex is so off and on I'm scared. #crypto #staking
Though you often have to refresh several times to get things to show up properly, Hive Engine seems to be working correctly for buying/selling. Haven't tried tribaldex lately.
I thought they were one and the same?
don’t think you need to be scared. This community always comes through in the end, but they’re pretty bad at convincing the masses of that 🙄
this is what decentralization looks like 😜
The Cat Momma with Kittens!
It's been more than year already, they grew up. I remember capturing this photo took me an hour because she was being protective.
One of my favorite photo from the collection.
#photography #cats #photographylovers
nice pussies
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is a beautiful photograph. Your effort has been worth it. I wish the best for the mother and kittens 😺
Thank you mate.
They're now grown up..livin in hometown.
That is amazing to hear!
!PIZZA
You know my cats who were buddies are living separately): ... me been a bad pet parent):
Hi 👋
One thing I realized about having financial freedom and independence is to do all you can to avoid DEBT.
Debt to me is a setback to achieving financial independence. So as a business person you should be aware of that.
#leofinance
Smart people have manipulated and used debt as a stepping ladder to accumulate wealth. I think it is more about how to use the tool that is available to you. #finance
a lot of people use debt to get ahead, but I always feel like if I can’t pay it back without destroying myself, I probably shouldn’t borrow it
Thats a crystal clear message
He is pissed with advertisers. Let's see how this conflict goes forward.
What does he mean ? How is this possible ? lol
I heard someone say that what's the point of having F-U money if you don't get to say F-U? So he said F-U to the advertisers.
He does not have other options.
Musk could take a page from D Gab playbook & build out everything from scratch. Gab was almost cancelled N2 oblivion; it ended up setting up its own data centers, payments processing systems, & subscription systems. Gab is still out there.
I think he is trying to do that. X as a powerful app that does everything on its own.
It won't matter how much is done by X if its cloud space disappears. AWS operates part of X-cloud. 2day they get along. If AWS pulls plug on X, Musk is screwed. Musk will need 2build his own data centers. He can still get cancelled by VISA.
yes. Doge as a payment system and AKT as the decentralized infrastructure :P
Creative
Grow Your Spirit
A wise approach to building capacity, that culminates in an ability to do and archive way, more than you could have in time passed.
That's nice to keep up and you'll be kept up.
Growin with every life experience.
Spirit growth is necessary in all areas of life because it will teach new ways of life and create experiences.
as a Hiver, you have a responsibility to vote for the witnesses that secure the blockchain... people often overlook this as they voted in the past and never looked at it again.
you should check which witnesses have updated price feeds... which ones are actively posting updates... which ones are speaking up.
it's time to re-evaluate who you're voting for. steempress has shut down and still has tons of votes. not sure how to check the witnesses you're voting for? check below.
check your witness votes
https://peakd.com/me/witnesses
if you want to support the community witness for the people... vote for @town-hall
I want to see some campaigning 1st
#gmfrens and hello from Bonnie 😁 Still can’t vote on threads, but I guess I can thread at least 😉
#dogs #hivegarden #ladiesofhive #aliveandthriving
GM to you & thank you for using the #gmfrens tag on Threads. Listen to the most recent Hive Community Town Hall!
GM tokens are now on Hive Engine! To OPT OUT of comments visit @gmfrens.
Why not. What's the problem?
still the same ever since the rebranding - can’t vote using my mobile and I’m very rarely on my laptop, so my juicy delegation mainly sits there unused 🙈
I think you should reach out to the team to figure out the issue. may be @khaleelkazi or @anomadsoul can help. #feedback
What are you using to log in?
Can you log out and then log in again?
I’m using Keychain app on both of my iPhones.Also LeoAuth in my safari browser - both ways I’m not able to vote.Logged out and back in many times, as this has been happening since rebranding😉When I click 💙:
Yes I would do what @anomadsoul says: log out and back in
It’s possible your browser is blocking it because of all the updates we’ve made to the UI
I sure log out and back in about 10 times since this first happened. I think it’s since rebranding Im not able to to vote on mobile. When I click on 💙 this happens
#gmfrens a little bit of a late start to the day but hey it's a Thursday those days are normally pretty boring lol. What do you have going on?
GM to you & thank you for using the #gmfrens tag on Threads. Listen to the most recent Hive Community Town Hall!
GM tokens are now on Hive Engine! To OPT OUT of comments visit @gmfrens.
This is what it takes to receive 1 HBD/day in interest at the varying rates. Now we are at 20% so it only takes 1825 #hbd in savings to get the 1/day. #hive #leo #themoreyouknow
super useful. I don’t really see a reason to hold HBD asi feel my activity on hive earns much more than that, but for those who are not that active on hive and still want to earn, it’s a great great way
I end up with about 10x my monthly interest from my posting and curating but I can't pass up the high rate while it is here.
I’ll be holding a lot more hbd once I feel hive is overbought, and we are far from that. I feel like hive has at least a 50% upside coming in the next year, can’t pass on that 😛 once we pump crazy though im moving half of it to HBD
Yeah I have HORRIBLE timing when I try that so I tend to stick with what is working and just feel annoyed I didn't give it a go. Like almost every time I convert I get burned by price changes soon after. 🙄
I get it. I have target prices that I’ll sell at, otherwise I just sit on my hive 70-80% powered up. Funny though my btc target price last cycle was 70k hahahahahahha
Hbd sounds like usdt Haven't crossed 1$ since i came on hive will it be stabel forever
I'm waiting so patiently for that Pump!!
This is a handy sheet.
It's nice to get over 30 HBD a month in interest and has been a goal of mine to keep earning more than the 1/day.
I get 67 HBD per month. My plan is to get $100/month in passive income
You have about double the savings I do so makes sense. It's really a no-brainer to keep stacking in savings at this rate. Looks like need 6K hbd to get 3.3/day interest for 100/month at 20% rate
That is 2K more than what I have right now. I will keep the earnings cumulate.
At 20%
6000 for 100 HBD/month
600 for 10 HBD/month <--- monthly Premium InLeo
12,000 HBD = $200 USD/month
I expanded the table but not that far.
Super useful information!
The amount of HBD staked is pretty high for just 1 hbd per day, one can earn even more hbd with just beig active on hive
The savings interest is just extra on top of what I get daily from posting/commenting. For some it is better for their funds to be liquid and others are fine staking.
Hmm well i guess the source of money cant be over emphasize. 😀
Pages are going to be very important for Music on Leo. This will be the focus of mine over the next 5 days. Will give an update on the #cryptomaniacs show on Tuesday.
@jongolson
Tuesday is one day that doesn't work for me but who cares 😅
Not only that I buy 200 $LEO, but I also bought 7.899 $HBD and powered up 10 $HIVE. This is my way to remember Larissa Kerato.
All good things happening on Hive.
Hive dApps empower each other.
Good morning!
#gmfrens
Looks like the reply from the GM bot is the way to determine if your #gmfrens tag has successfully "mined" you the GM token (just like the HBIT bot while it was working). 🤔🤓
!LOLZ
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they’re so full of themselves.
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Isn’t he cute, this Sinterklaas, completely made out of chocolate. 😋
#ladiesofhive #foodie
cute and sweets
Thank you, glad you liked it.
Happy Thursday all!
Spending a lot of time on the blockchain today. Plenty of work to get done.
Hope you all have a fantastic day and vote @town-hall for witness because it saves all the unicorns when you do!
saving unicorns will always get votes
Have been meankmg to ask This witness voting is there like huhh a commission for those who vote ?
nah no commission or anything. the more witness votes a witness gets, the more the rise in the witness list. higher = more blocks.
Ohhbb so its all in for the witness the voter is just to support ?
Happy Thursday. I already voted the witness. Keep up the good work and market Hive like crazy.
Ser yes ser!
Thank you!
Hive to the moon.
Imagine if you had 5-10 of the people you talk to in the real world on inleo threads. It certainly will change how you use the platfrom. I encourage everyone to invite people they know here. That's how social media started.
sadly most people I know either are too suspicious of anything you promise will make money or are too engrained in a routine or way too active elsewhere to try out a new kind of social media. Hopefully one day I drag a few people over
You are right. It would be totally fun to engage with people you are close with personally.
agreed. facebook literally started with a few friends talking back and forth in college.
I do not know any leo people irl.
All green
There investors, day traders and gamblers. Which one are you?
I put my money where my mouth is. Since I didn’t want to treat day trading as a full time job, I put everything into what I believe in: Bitcoin, Hive and Leo
I'm a degen! 😂
I agree. I hope you are the first one I don’t get to say “I told you so” to 😘 chase that lambo boy!!!!
😅 Pretty sure you don't have to do that! For my plans to fail would mean the death of BTC and the whole crypto and that's pretty unlikely IMO. 😀
I should also note that I’m a degen too. A degen holder. I put 50%+ of everything I have into hive. At one point 80% was in Hive. That is kind of insane and I will be the first to admit it!!
Well, yeah...when you put it that way. For someone looking in outside the box, HIVE is just another alt with a narrative. Just like every other coin. 🙂 Hive is also a big part of my portfolio. Moving out of HBD position though.
I know the people who make hive what it is, not all of them but many of them. I can’t say that for any other coin out there. I also don’t see anything that survives and adapts as well as hive and I don’t know any other token that forked out its founders stake. That’s really special.
All true. I'm so scattered over the whole space with eggs and baskets but I do consider Hive to be a sort of a safe haven cos of those things you mentioned. I think the space needs places like that. It's like home. 😊
I am nothing :P
4th option: tapped out
ha ha after bitten by the scams and laundering schemes on Crypto, yes
lol this is why I’m telling everyone to buy Leo. Don’t go chasing waterfalls 😆
Leo- better get to $1
the more you buy, the faster it’ll get there 😜
@brando28 🤣
We are friends :P
all of the above, check my threads !PIMP
You must be killin' it out here!
@dynamicrypto just slapped you with 5.000 PIMP, @selfhelp4trolls.
You earned 5.000 PIMP for the strong hand.
They're getting a workout and slapped 2/3 possible people today.
Read about some PIMP Shit or Look for the PIMP District
I am a trader. I do not gamble in the markets. My approach is very calculated and guided by my mechanical trading strategy. This is a business, not a casino!
Rebellion is like a breath of fresh air to the Splinterlands ecosystem.
-it is the first card set that will have entirely new abilities, new Summoner tactics, new Summoners with dual element,
-The Rebellion set is the first set that the airdrop system will be revamped with the introduction of "Conflicts," where players stake unopened Rebellion packs and cards to earn airdrop rewards,
-Rebellion set is also the first set with a new CEO on seat and that’s Yabapmatt himself with a new team,
Rebellion is also the 5th card set of the Splinterlands game. The essence of 5 in numerology is all about embracing change and seeking new adventures.
more on the post below.
https://inleo.io/mistakili/numerological-meaning-of-the-5th-splinterlands-card-set-rebellion-
It's time to post long form post. Already had a draft I was about publishing on onthenode yesterday, but changed my mind after reviewing the platform properly. It's better to fish in a river you are used to no matter how wide and deep it may be, than trying to swim in a shallow water.
Good luck! Rightly said about the swimming.
sha don’t drink too much water
I will start writing after a while. Today I am late in case of writing long form post.
Delicious Turkish bread for dinner tonight.
With some shoarma and salad. 😋😋😋
#ladiesofhive #foodie #mydiary
Most of the $LEO I earned this year is going to help fund my wedding. The platform/blockchain impacts my life positively.
Being a content creator on Hive/inLeo pays my bills, and I do hope other people can experience this as well.
damn, that's a news to me.
I'm sure LEO earning alone will find ya marriage tho wen invitation card and flight tickets?
flight is going to cost around $3000 💀
Let's spread the word!
📢📢📢
this is great... Congratulations again
Thank you 🙂
That’s awesome. I am focused on Leo. Not sure what’s going on with Hive anymore.
Same here. This is where the active users are currently. And there is a lot of effort geared towards making the platform grow.
inLEO threads is Genius. I am all about the Short Content. So happy to be posting here.
I have been posting Short Content, Photography,Short Videos etc etc since 2017 ... So Threads is where I belong.
that is awesome and congrats on the wedding !PIZZA
Working on the INLEO docs and honestly feeling the hype myself
LFG.
Looks like big things under radar.
Though wen roadmap for 2024?
👀
👀
Now that’s sounds like a lions way of of doing things. A kings share on the way!
Gonna be wild
That's impressive.
It's like watching your child's graduation.
100% and you love to see it
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I am hearing cool vibes about inleo everywhere. Let the hype continue.
Love to hear that!
show me!
When the hype man is hyped good things will happen.
📍 Angkor Wat, Cambodia 🇰🇭
Cambo Capery!
Kickin' about Angkor Wat in Cambodia… got there for sunrise so an early tuk-tuk ride for that, then headed off on a tour of more temples. Walked a lot of miles that day 👣
#leotravel
(Related article in replies 🔗 ⬇️)
#travel #asia #cambodia
wish I could get my travel game on again. But every time I go somewhere for 5 days I end up there for 5 years
I have to visit place 😍
https://inleo.io/@adambarratt/cambo-capers-sunrises-genocide-and-elusive-wifi
How many of you are like oh there is no space or threadcast today and then when there is threadcast and space, you go to sleep lol.
I think my newest hobby is, to listen to spaces and AMAs I missed.
Feel you there! Timezones do not help either. Everything important crypto-related happens when I sleep. I am constantly reacting...
and yesterday VSCs space had no recording either.. so its missed show.
oh no, I was planning to listen to that. Well I hope someone has a short version for us in a form of a post.
haha, I see it happens to a lot.
Bread space and cryptoholics both starts at 5am and I can't really stay up any longer than 3-4am.
Count me in
I believe my first #payout will come today. I feel like a kid in the candy store waiting to buy a lollipop.
Make good use of the payout. Is this Hive?
what do you mean
it’s awesome … power up
Are you using the internet or the internet is using you?
https://inleo.io/threads/view/solymi/re-leothreads-2huqdq7wa
It's easy to reply but I think in most cases people won't give an honest answer to the question.
Trible dex and the hive engine market have been glitchy, these passed few days. What other options are available for trading on hive??
internal market for swaps between hbd and hive....but right now we are all waiting patiently for @vsc.network to save us all on this chain lol
LOL… If this is what the current platforms will
Continue subjecting us too. We can not wait for the messiah @vsc.network
yeah i was getting frustrated with that.
i started using beeswap. it works. but i am still getting use to the interface.
Never going back to those other front-ends #beeswap
This should help.. I have been frustrated out of my brains. Nearly missed those awful bank cues. Thank you for the direction.
can you buy and sell different engine tokens on bee swap, i tried to go there last night and the swaps were all greyed out?
only if they have an LP i think.
but you can always convert to swap.hive.
it is not as full featured as tribaldex but has been working for me while those front-ends are struggling.
I still do not fully understand why HE is the only smart contract option on hive. @vsc.network can explain I guess :)
No one else has dedicated themselves to building an alternative until now..
May be that is the reason. I will have to read more on what VSC is doing.
For sure. Take a look at https://vsc.eco for more information
Thank you for the link.
yeah.. You could use beeswap
On it.. Frustration is the last feeling one needs on a hot day like this one. In my part of the world.
Beeswap is a good option too as someone already suggested.
Have you seen the latest Elon's interview?
Yes. I'm starting to understand why Twitter has focused on non-advertising revenue like subs and premium features. The swearing was funny. 😂
i heard its one of a kind very funny interview, haven't watched it though will search for it
Here is one my attempt of Musiconleo thread using AI.
I got closer. It can be done. HuggingAI has the models that can do this.
Did you watch #musk's interview where he fucked off advertisers?
It was funny :P #news #x