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RE: Poshbot DHF Proposal

Minimize the spam. Content gets passed around once, and there's one notification placed conveniently under the post. Twice = two notifications and before you know it, there are ten instances or more of this message downvoted to the bottom of the comment section. That eyesore is unnecessary and if some form of content truly went viral as it's being passed around on multiple platforms, you'd see thousands of these notifications completely destroy that comment section, every few minutes.

One notification/message that's constantly updated/edited as things change, providing information and stats as they roll in, would suffice as a potential solution.

This boils down to tracking outside shares. Even the UI could be utilized, displaying these stats POSH detects, much like how we see a list of voters now.

Keeping these comment sections clean/free of nasty spam and robots ensures consumers on the outside are presented with something they might want to sign up to in order to engage and be a part of whatever it is they take an interest in, so it's important to keep the aisles free of debris and trip hazzards.

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I agree with this.

PoShbot is a lovely little tool - and deduplicating poshbot comment posts, but maybe keeping a 'mentions' or 'shared' count would be lovely. It'd maintain the tidy, modern look as usage scales if more folk start to share hive related tweets/redditposts

I just remembered that the bot shows the actual tweet of the person sharing on Twitter. I don't think it tracks retweets, etc.

So, they are technically unique "comments". But, I get the appearance of being "spammy".

Especially 'spammy' and mostly pointless when that POSH notification is the only comment under a post, and the author of said post is the one who Tweeted out the link to a viewership of none/very small outside following.

I see tremendous value though in having the ability to tap into sources providing details on outside reach; I think we should provide as many details as possible. Having that information close to home with easy push button access would be perfect. That information is precious. It's far more valuable than just, "Hey everyone! Look at me! I shared a link on Twitter! The masses will surely come now! We did it!"

I recognize this guy, wassup man? Way to express the difference between spammy and promotion. What's good, anything? Do tell...

Dude. Whaddup!

Much, good; or at least good enough. Can complain, but won't. The rest is a long story.

They are not spam though, each one is a unique purposeful comment off chain brought to the chain. The poshbot comments are not just a comment "Joe blow tweeted this post", they are actually engaged comments left by someone, they are just off chain where no one can see them, poshbot brings them onchain so everyone can see them.

For example Dan's recent post had a lot of tweets, but each one is unique and offers as much value as native Hive comments.

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In theory, sure. In practice...

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I can't be bothered to snoop through all that and I assume if I did, I'd be met with something like:

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I picked from the top five trending and quickly found those two current examples. I don't see much value in seeing ads directing me to the content I'm already viewing, here. It's valuable to those on the outside and content reaching the outside is valuable to, all of us, if it's good and people take interest.

I suggest minimizing spam and part of the reason is, these days, I'll see a post, I'll see it has five comments early on, I'll click. Get to the comments and not one of them is an actual comment from a human. A POSH notification, an automated message from a curator, a thank you for using this community, an achievement earned, "You've earned Random Shit Token!" and twenty messages about getting one beer token, twenty times, etc. These things are building up and it all looks ridiculous. Attract outside eyes. It's so important. Keeping those eyes is more important. Someone entering to view content from the outside does not need to see ten more tweet ads about the post they're viewing, since the one that brought them here already did it's job, on the outside, where it's most beneficial.

Those stats though and having the ability to track some of these details in real time, now that's valuable. More often than not, today's content creator doesn't see these things. If a big name with a large following picks something up, word of mouth is how one finds out, after sitting there for a few hours wondering, "Where the fuck are all these views coming from?!?!"

Everyone is a unique comment by a real person, more so than can be said about actual Hive comments in some cases.

If you open up each one of those hidden ones, they will all be unique comments by real people.

But you chose one extreme post from 3500 comments/week. Most posts only have one or two @poshbot comments at most. Even that being the case, these are still valuable off chain comments brought on chain.

I didn't cherrypick those examples. Went to the trending page and took screenshots of the first two instances I found. Spent more time cropping than anything. What I saw was similar to what I've been seeing.

I can see those two 'unique' comments. When you read them, you can see why I called them advertisements. I most certainly don't use that term in a negative light either. I respect those efforts and have written about the importance of reaching an outside audience starting over four years ago. So this is progress and it's good progress. I don't like the spam. Nothing you say will change that so let's not argue and move on from there. I see potential and view this current method as only the building blocks to something much more beneficial; bigger and better. So I suggest these things. Not interested? That's cool with me. Didn't come here to shit on your plan or piss in your cornflakes. I just think it can be better.

When post is shared 2nd (or 3rd, 4th...) time you should edit first comment and add a text link to twitter, this way poshbot will leave only one comment under every shared post and will link to all shares