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RE: Healthy AI Usage #01: "Idea Engine" to Boost your Creativity

in LeoFinance3 years ago

And where does it end?

Creativity in its various forms are one of humankind's greatest gifts. If you think of great art, literature or music, these things are not created (Initially at least) for any reason other than the moment of inspiration.

Fame, money, notoriety may all follow as a creative artist is noticed, but it's not the reason why creative people do what they do. I know I write fiction or poetry both almost as a compulsion, mixed with catharsis, mixed with i don't quite know what, inspiration i suppose.

Anyway, my point is that the more we rely upon AI generated prompts, or content ideas, or good forbid, started to get them to write songs... the more we will water down our own creative intelligence and process.

It's not meant to be easy, or at least in my experience 90% of the time creative writing (and I'm not talking about on hive here) takes hard work and perseverance.

P.s. I didn't mean to downvote you by the way, i was trying to remove my origonal upvote because when i really considered the blog I realised i didn't agree with the main premise.

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In the example for my (@worldbuilder's) prompt though, is that really any different than going to Wikipedia or google to search up what kind of buildings have stained glass?

Like... I don't think we should let AI content be passed off as real work because it has no creativity to it, but 5 seconds on ChatGPT to answer a question that may take me 10 minutes on Google feels like a good trade with no creativity lost.

IMO, it's exactly the same process, just using different tools.

One creator can go to Wikipedia and look for the "Stained Glass" article.

Other creator can go to Pinterest and search for pictures tagged with "Stained Glass".

A third one can go to reddit.com/r/StainedGlass (yes, it's a real subreddit) and sort the posts with the most voted from all times to see what's going on.

A fourth one can go to the nearest Cathedral, if he's lucky enough to live nearby one, and take a look at the beautiful artworks there.

And, finally, a fifth one can go to ChatGPT ask for buildings with Stained Glass.

Which tool is the best? There's no such thing. To each their own.

Exactly my thoughts as well!

That's a good point.

But you know not everyone will stop at using it as a tool in such a way. Many people will use it as a way to take from the reward pool with a simple 2/3 sentence query to ChatGPT.

I think why there is such a slew of AI and ChatGPT content around at the moment, is that there has always been so much abuse - plagiarism, spam comment farming and even the whole bidbot vote stacking cons that went on for years on steem - a lot of people saying zero tolerance are curators, or maybe people with big votes, who follow trails and want the people who assesses whomever their vote goes to not to go to people using AI generated content.

I know this isn't what you're suggesting in your article, but there will be a lot of it going on and it will be making curators jobs even harder. Lol, i stopped being a curator for one of the guilds years ago because i couldn't take the stress of the detective work i had to do on every post being published in The Ink Well, and i can only imagine how much more difficult AI gen content has made that work. I garuntee that there will be whole groups of people who post as much AI gen content as poss until caught, then they'll simply create 8-10 new accounts and repeat the same process.

Anyway, i think I'd still stick to my premise that the less we do that research, the less we engage our brains to remember all the places we've seen stained glass, especially over generations, it's going to be detrimental overall to the human creative process. But, I've never been married to my opinions. I could be completely wrong and missing out on a useful tool 😂

Yeah, I mean... there will always be bad actors that will use these tools in a negative way but on the whole, I think it's positive. I don't envy the folks having to sort through the tons of garbage posts being created entirely by AI, but it's not much different than plagiarism and we already did that on-chain.

For what it's worth, my wife also thinks it's going to hurt the overall creative process... but she also isn't writing fiction or doing creative things so while I respect the stance, I'm willing to ignore it and use the tools available in morally-justifiable ways to make my workload easier.

I don't envy the folks having to sort through the tons of garbage posts being created entirely by AI, but it's not much different than plagiarism and we already did that on-chain.

Yeah, I do think you underestimate how much more difficult it is going to make the work the curation guilds do, but that's just because of my past experience. And I have read another post that says they're already using tools that weed out AI gen articles etc.

In regards to the rest of our conversation, it is just a matter of opinion and I respect anyone who uses a tool responsibly to create something good. I'm currently working on a fantasy fiction novel, but no fiction of mine has gone anywhere near hive for a while now, and there is a reason for that.

I guess I'm just old school, but straight up, I get more inspiration (like enough to write whole chapters) from a walk in the mountains than I do by using any technological vehicle for inspiration. That doesn't mean I don't use the internet to get visual inspiration, and a lot for research, it's just the way my mind works I guess. A huge amount of the stronger work, writing that flows seamlessly (and rarely needs much editing) that is coming from my subconscious happens after I engage with nature, particularly walks etc in wilderness areas.

I can definitely get behind that! Walks in nature are a wonderful way to get writing flowing, and one of the things I miss most about no longer living on a farm with a ton of trees behind my house.

Creativity in its various forms are one of humankind's greatest gifts. If you think of great art, literature or music, these things are not created (Initially at least) for any reason other than the moment of inspiration.

This is true, and yet every artist is working with all the ideas other artists had already, and if you check, everything is the copy of a copy of a copy.

Very few people come up with really original ideas that have never been there before.
Just check out the book with the title "Steal like an artist" by Austin Kleon

There is also a quote from a Hungarian poet Arany János:

Lie, poet, lie; but don't be caught at it.
Liars are all lame ducks and often slip,
And once a poem slips it can't get up."

Translated by J. G. Nichols translated

First thing you learn in the creative industry: Take all those ideas and form and spin them until you can make them your own.

I know exactly what you're talking about, another quote that reflects this is from Jim Jarmusch.

“Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic.

But I would question his use of the word 'theft' and 'steal'. I get why he uses them, he's trying to be hard-hitting. But the reality is that just because you find inspiration from for e.g. Norse mythology does that mean Neil Gaiman's American Gods is theft? Is it fuck.

Inspiration borrows from the past indisputably. But American Gods as a work of fiction isn't just a recounting of the Norse mythologies.

I agree wholeheartedly with what you're saying:

Very few people come up with really original ideas that have never been there before.

and

First thing you learn in the creative industry: Take all those ideas and form and spin them until you can make them your own.

100% agree with both those statements. Any serious writer knows them to be true 👍

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