In what reality does forcing people to behave a certain way end with rainbows and sunshine?
remember for them, we are like the children of pedo island (epstein, bill clinton trump, desrshowitz, bill gates etc)
aka they believe that force and or training (social enginnering) permits them to achieve their deeds
then they met PLA :).
then for you to understand about collective means of production :
give me the gun
you say : no it's mine
communist say it's OURS
to whom does it belong?