Using Listnerds To Market Hive

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A lot is made about marketing and getting the word out about Hive. The problem with this wide approach is the target audience. A major part of marketing is finding your target and catering your message to them. With Hive, we have so many different interests arising that is hard to capture one or two ideas.

However, the same is not true for the applications. The audience for STEMGeeks, as an example, is pretty straightforward. We can also see the same being true for Splinterlands. Each has a base they will cater to even if there could be some overlap.

Utilizing established social media can be a great way to attract new users to our applications. Splinterlands did a terrific job at this. Their numbers great a tremendous amount last year. This, naturally, all feeds into Hive.

Listnerds is an application that was recently released which can also be used for this purpose.

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A Marketing Piece To Market

It is interesting to think about the dynamic that exists on Hive. We are social media, thus we have the ability to put together materials ourselves. Essentially, each post can be its own marketing piece.

Listnerds, is a tool that allows content creators to promote what they are doing. It is a self-contained email platform that allows people to volunteer to receive emails. Of course, through tokenization, people are incentivized to read them. Over time, the goal is to have a built in audience for people to promote to.

So far, many users have opted to send out their Hive posts through this system. From the early results, it seems like a successful way to garner attention. The number of comments appears to increase, most likely garnering more upvotes.

This project is tied to Hive through the use of the account management system. Anyone who wants to participate in the tokenization aspect of the project requires a Hive account. Also, it uses the CTP and newly created LISTNERD tokens, both of which are located on Hive-Engine.

But what about taking the concept of Listnerds and using that to market Hive? Could this be a piece that garners some attention while bringing in users?

Self Promotion

Anyone holding Hive is a stakeholder. This means we all share in the success of the entire ecosystem. As more value is driven to Hive, we all benefit.

It also means the onus is upon us to step up and participate. The tendency is to let others do it. We see this in business. Of course, it makes sense since, there, departments are created to handle the different details of what is needed. Hive has no departments nor CEO to drive things. Instead, it is a digital cooperative where everyone has a part.

Some people are writing blog posts about Listnerds. This is helpful since it does provide some material for this purpose.

We can see how this project would have appeal to a particular segment. Internet marketing is big business and people are consistently trying to get more attention. Listnerds is growing into something that could possibly assist in that endeavor.

Of course, sending out information is only part of the equation. The other is to get people to read through and take action. Here is where the challenge comes in.

This was summed up in an article by @jimmy.adames. He really captured the essence of what these people are focused upon.

One of the main takeaways from this is the Click-Thru-Rates. This is something that averages a few percent at best under normal circumstances.

Here is a chart that shows what he was receiving.

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All the rates are above 85%. That is an outstanding number.

It is also something that needs to be promoted outside Hive. Here is a tool that is available that can assist people in their online business ventures. We also see another way people can be compensated for their activity on Hive.

Basically, it is a positive feedback loop where the marketing of Listnerds can help Hive which further helps Listnerds.

Evolutionary-To-Revolutionary

Sometimes we come across an idea that is totally revolutionary. Of course, simply because the concept is there does not mean that change can happen. This takes effort.

That said, we see a project that can truly re-work some of the existing models of Internet marketing. The team approached the industry from the standpoint of solving a major problem. By building their own self-contained email system, this bypasses the traditional email applications.

It also brings tokenization to this arena. Taking the Proof-of-Brain idea from Hive, it also implemented an upvote system to allow the readers to influence the rewards of each email (this uses proprietary voting and does not affect Hive voting power).

The project is in the evolutionary stage right now. However, this is how revolutions occur. Things simmer over time until they explode. Obviously, a change in industry tactics is much different than a military uprising but the principle is the same. What starts off slowly can "suddenly" come to a head.

One of the keys to any tool is the results achieved. From looking at some of the posts about it, the CTR discussed in the abovementioned post is not unique. That is what the going rate appears to be.

Hence, in the early days at least, the platform is effective. People who are taking a serious approach to their business by utilizing Listnerds are finding it of benefit. That is an important first step.

This means it can be an onboarding system for users outside of Hive. As stated, anyone who wants to participate in the tokenization aspect of the platform requires a Hive account. Here we see another use case added which increases the value of having an account.

Ultimately, the more people can do with their account, the better it is for everyone.

For this reason, Listnerds is one to watch. It has the potential to pull in thousands of users since it is offering something that is rather unique to the Internet marketing industry.

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I believe listnerds will definitely be a useful tool to promote hive in the blockchain to another level

It most certainly will. This is also an application that one can use to promote his or her own work.

When we think about it, this makes the entire process of Internet Marketing profitable. The actual selling of a product is secondary.

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Absolutely true and I appreciate every effort been put to it to progress

The key will be getting more people who are signed up to actually use the system. Like anything, most likely a lot of dead emails.

This is why the people on Hive can provide a good foundation. The more of us using it, and earning, the better the results people get.

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Great take on things indeed. I too feel Listernerds is an innovation. But where it finds its soft ground of use is yet to unfold. I usually use to drive people to my blog posts.

Also, I feel we also need to shift our marketing mindsets. Becoming communicative, informative and educational rather than being salesy in the era of decentralization. Otherwise, it will become more about just clicks for the sake of clicks.

Using it to drive people to your blog posts is a sensational way to utilize the platform. In fact, this post was emailed out to over 900 users.

I agree the mindset regarding marketing needs to change. We have to take the onus upon ourselves. When we step back and see the bigger picture (and how we each can benefit), it starts to make sense.

All of this is building up the value on Hive. For that reason, each token holder benefits.

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Cool 😎 you are using it in full swing. Its working for me, especially if we look at the meagre number of people I send after accumulating a couple hundred mails 😛.

You are right, hive is actually being replenished with great products. And it is improving the platform as a whole.

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Yeah I just sent one out and the results are not likely to be pretty. I believe there are a lot of people receiving emails who are not actually using the system. That is where new signups and active participants comes in.

Those of us who come from Hive obviously are interested in getting things moving. It is just a matter of increasing the numbers so the read rates increase.

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I believe there are a lot of people receiving emails who are not actually using the system.

That might be the case, since it is a restart of a steem service. I guess this would need to be algorithmically mitigated as people might go offline or stop using the service in future as well. It would be great if it can send the mails to list selected with certain creteria based on activity. Though i also have more questions like do multiple mails are sent to the same people? But probably its too early to comment or fire up curiosities 😅. For now it feels good to wait, use and understand it better and provide feedback. Jogolson must be already having some improvements and refinements in mind. 😉

Well it was never a service on Steem. This is a private, non-blockchain system they built years ago.

That said, everyone needed to reverify their emails but that is just a click. The actually users is likely a lot smaller than what is verified on there.

Alas, that is where it becomes a numbers game. I will just have to collect more emails next time.

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@yanyanje @miraicastel and me are going to use it as a mailer for the swiss hive comunity. That ways we will send out our meetup flyer with some ifos and all that about the meeing :)

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That is good. It can be a great tool to promote most any type of cryptocurrency/hive activity.

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I'm just getting the information about "Listnerds" now.

Sounds great, thanks for sharing. If users read this, it definitely can do alot better than twitter if hive focuses it attention there.

It is another tool that Hive can use and people who are part of the Hive Twitter army can put out there to attract attention.

We are going to see more tools like this in the future. Hive is becoming a nice mecca where content creators can utilize an assortment of tools to get their work seen.

It will just keep growing.

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listnerds is not just going to be for earning ctp token alone ,am also seeing it as a way of making the hive Blockchain something to reckon with always

It certainly appears that it can be multi-use.

A lot more likely coming down the road from the team. @jongolson teased about something really big on yesterdays #CryptoManiac show.

https://anchor.fm/cryptomaniacs

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Just read the article you recommended and navigated to Listnerds. What an innovative and extremely useful creation. I'm thinking about how I can use it to get cool people to come hang out in my husband's Twitch stream. The possibilities or this are endless. Thanks for sharing it.

It certainly can be used as a feeder system into something like that.

You are right the possibilities are endless. It is also a way to earn emails along with tokens.

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Listnerds, is a tool that allows content creators to promote what they are doing.

Is it similar to the post promotion channels on Discord, where everyone promotes their own posts, but almost no one cares about other's posts?

In this people are incentivized to read the emails.

So this is a lot different than anything being done on Discord.

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I just used Listnerds to drive more traffic to my latest blog post, worked like a charm !

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Amazing how that works.

Can you see, did it result in more upvotes and an increase in rewards?

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it sure did

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Listnerds is probably the best use case / benefit for Hive without being on Hive.

There is Cub Finance too, but that's not directly linked to Hive, while Listnerds is (through account management system, creation of new Hive accounts, purchases via SWAP.HIVE and additional audience for posts).

Listnerds is probably the best use case / benefit for Hive without being on Hive.

I could make a pretty good case that title goes to Splinterlands. They seemed to do pretty well with the user case on Hive without being on Hive.

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Splinterlands is partly on Hive. They didn't give up all the gameplay custom_jsons (quest start for example is still a custom_json). All card transactions are recorded on Hive as custom_jsons, even if they occur on other blockchains. It is more on Hive than Listnerds, which is on HE with the tokenomics.

But of course Splinterlands is a monster, and if we consider it in the "not on Hive" category, than Splinterlands is the frontrunner by far.

It is fabulous that Listnerds is succeeding not only as a mailer, but as something we never even imagined it would be. I am sure as more people get comfortable with the new tool they will find even more innovative ways to use it.

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That is the key: innovation.

People are already experimenting a bit and that will help. If something works, others will copy it.

Imagine if we had half a dozen things we could do with Listnerds. People might be able to really expand their reach or ways of approaching things.

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The click through rates are insane! This platform is going to explode.

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I have a feeling. I just sent out my first email.

So far charting over 90%. Not a ton of opens so far but the ones that did really have been coming through.

This creates a lot more traffic for Hive front ends (presuming they are some new clicks there).

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I sent out my second one last night. So far 100%. Hopefully we both get to 20 up votes so they get verified. Definitely exciting because some people only use certain frontends and this is an opportunity for getting posts to new audiences.

I send out to 930 people. That might not be enough. I will see how it goes over the next week.

I might need to build my emails up to about 1,500 before sending them out. The 900 should be enough it it was Hive people but I have a feeling a lot of dead emails (or ones people are not checking in there).

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I think you have a great point. You are right , the two sites go hand in hand. I think I will promote Hive more often. Thanks for the great article.

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Anything to bring people to Hive. An application like this can hold great appeal.

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Thanks for the Listnerds info, I would have never heard about using list nerds, it's posts like this that help me grow on chain and expand my horizons!

There is a lot more happening here each day it seems.

Trying to share what is taking place.

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There is so much to learn, than I believe there is my age demographic I'm 49 so I use Hive differently, somehow if we could open up to the 20's age group you would see a viral pop! I love marketing on Twitter, you learn to maximize your words with only 150, I opened an account on #NFTShowroom, everyone should check out the NFT side to Hive, if we had more people on chain step outside their comfort zone that would make a difference, Maybe marketing Hive to people on chain to promote such a huge ecosystem would maximize Hives potential, it's an easy product to market, I also invested in Splinterlands card decks, than turned the game account to the family to run, I started with 2 artists a NFT Trading Card company called,"Catatumbo World Art" we sell high class trading cards for the same cost as paper cards so anywhere in the world our cards can be collected, There is a lifetime of activities available, Twitter Marketing may open doors for people already on chain.

My current Hive project

Catatumbo World Art

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It will come in time. Sadly, we all want the explosion but it is a building process.

Listnerds is only a few weeks old. This is something that is already gaining traction. So I would say that within 6 months, it will be a lot bigger.

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Wow, it's good to see you promoting through Listnerds, it's a tool that is really useful for my Leofinance promotions.

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I am giving it a shot. Was able to send out over 900 emails.

This is something that keeps growing over time. It is vital to get word out about this useful tool.

What will be interesting is to see what innovation people come up with.

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I just sent out my first mail today so I will see how things go and I also saw your mail in my ListNerds mailbox. Either way, I guess its free promotion because I get mail credit from reading mail.

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I got your email in my inbox. Gave it an upvote.

So it is going well. It will be interesting to see if either of us gets to the 20 upvotes. I am curious as to what the magic number of emails that need to be sent to get to the 20.

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I am wondering that as well. From my 800 sent, I have gotten 15 out of the 20. So I am not exactly how much is required to get that magic number of 20. How much did you send?

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My first send was 930 emails. I have 31 upvotes now so I qualify in another 6 days.

I did get about 60 opens though.

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It looks like I managed to get above 20 so I should qualify in a few more days. So far, I think I got about 60 opens.

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I recently heard of Listnerd but never took out time to know how it works. This has been helpful.

Speaking of the issue of marketing and brand awareness, I suppose that's one major problem Hive is facing. Hive is fully equipped yet only a few percentage use this social media platform. Answer is simple, many do not know about the platform. Thus, Hive needs some rigorous "marketing" movements. I talked more on this in my recent blog post though.

Listnerd appears to be a timely tool we can leverage on to promote Hive.

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I disagree. Hive doesnt need any marketing, it is the games and applications that need to do their marketing.

Hive is a back end, that is truly all it is. So the idea of marketing that doesnt make much sense. We need 3Speak, Listnerds, Leofinance, and others to step up.

People also need to take posts and send them out on traditional social media (other peoples). This is a way to drive traffic to the different front ends and perhaps people start to look around.

It also helps to get the links out there.

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So, would you say that a project like Ethereum doesn't need marketing too? Since it's the back end for many other DApps?

Clearly, all tribes and users have their own work to do wrt marketing. Since Hive is the mother of all these tribes, I think that it needs brand awareness.

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Ethereum to Hive is apples to oranges.

To start, Ethereum has Vitalik who gets a great deal of attention each time he does anything. Also, it was a first in terms of smart contracts. So not we do not see any marketing by Ehtereum needed.

Yes the applications and games on there need to promote their work. That is why we see so many airdrops on that chain, as promotion.

As for Hive, we need more applications stepping up. Those of us who are members of the community can promote it. For example, I sent out a couple tweets about Listnerds along with a couple of articles.

If 200 people did that each day, imagine the progress that could be made in a month or two.

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I believe it all boils down to users and communities taking action steps towards the promotion of Hive in whatever means possible.

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Hard to argue with that.

Community is vastly overlooked. It is why I keep harping upon engagement. This is vital.

We also need to keep filling the trending page on Leofinance with comments. That way when people hit up that page, they see the activity.

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Community is vastly overlooked. It is why I keep harping upon engagement. This is vital.


With time, a greater percentage will come to the understanding of this and the benefits that lie within.

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If we keep creating cool projects like Listnerds or Splinterlands a lot more people will take a look at what's going on hive. It's just a matter of time at this point and I love it :)

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Yes it is all in the applications and games.

Podping is another terrific one that is helping to put Hive on the radar.

We just need to keep using and growing Listnerds. It is something that can really make a big impact upon the Internet marketing world.

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I agree, ListNerds is a great Marketing tool. I am hoping that more Hive users start to understand this and use it to their advantage. This will in turn increase the entire Hive ecosystem as you stated in your post. Take care.

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We do need the original intention of the project, to reach outside of Hive, to excel. It is a slow process and the Listnerd team is consistent and dedicated. Hence we will have to see what this brings to Hive over the next 6-9 months.

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I agree CTR is very good. And People there are original and really read out article unlike spam.
Infact I just came here from ListNerds haha

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That is true. There is still the typical Internet Marketing being sent around. Will that change over time?

It is an interesting concept to think about. Instead of sending out spam to click through to get some referral link or have someone sign up for some listbuilder, simply put up an article and send it out.

A much different concept.

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Appreciate you doing this man! Thanks for the support and coverage of what we are building!

Oh and btw, I saw your article via ListNerds too lol

And check out MAIL, you can now use LISTNERDS to buy MAIL tokens in the platform...Thanks to your suggestion and of course @blainjones without an e!

That is great. Already starting to get a use case built for LISTNERDS. It is vital. Push it through your entire platform.

A great way to design a circular economy with people either staking their LISTNERDS or spending them on site.

That is how the value is created.

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I think listnerds is in it's beginning stages. Where the average reader could read all of the email presented to them. As the system has gotten more users the amount of daily email has grown. I think the email header will start to make a lot more difference in what is opened and clicked through.

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It is just beginning and we can really start to see the formation of something very powerful.

We are seeing a fair bit of emails sent on a daily basis. I cant wait until the team puts out some numbers.

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Really solid perspective piece. I came here from ListNerds, and appreciate in particular your observation that if we are using ListNerds we are already invested in Hive. It seems to me that as the world of Hive keeps growing (I mean, I barely recognize my own Hive-Engine portfolio anymore and I am a shrimp haha!), it feels like it will be increasingly important to find those threads back to the foundation that holds all the rest up. I love Hive, even though I am pretty pretty news, so keeping that infrastructure in my focus feels important to my future in all these amazing projects.

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It is wonderful that you feel that way. I do also and I have been here a while. My love for Hive only keeps growing.

That said, it is important to try and follow what is important. We cannot be involved, nor on top of, everything. Yet if we can keep abreast of the important stuff, we can fill in the rest.

In a year, there will be a lot more taking place. That simply is how it is. We are going to keep growing and expanding.

Listnerds is just the latest addition. We will see where this project stands in 6 months.

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Healthy and wise perspective - there are plenty of projects I have been hyped on and missed signs that they were going nowhere, and others that have loooooong incubation periods.
Thanks for replying btw!!

Hard to pick winners and losers. The only thing I can say is look at the development team and keep monitoring that.

We are going to find ourselves, at times, putting in effort into stuff that fails. That is just the nature of the beast.

Yet we only need to find one or two winners and it is life changing.

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I still haven't played around with ListNerds but I'm going to do that asap. I'm hearing great things about this new platform and it looks like it has a lot of potential to drive awareness to Hive as a whole and each one of us individually as well.

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It has a great deal of potential in my opinion. I really believe that the team behind it has some great things up their sleeve. They are Internet Marketers so it only makes sense that they will market the hell out of their platform.

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I use it currently and am about to send out an email myself. I've upgraded in this because I believe in the product, the use case, and the blockchain that backs it. I am staking my ListNerds and working on pulling folks from ListNerds to my hive blogposts, and they've been doing quite well. Better results currently than any other mailer I use, and the fact that I can actually earn 2nd layer tokens doing it is just gravy.

and for whatever reason, I hadn't followed you until just now.

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Thank you. Appreciate the follow.

I hope my content meets the criteria.

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There is so many ways to get compensated on Hive. Listnerds is just another way to aid in that effort. The tokens on there are both on H-E. At the same time, the posts we send out can do better as they gain more exposure.

Collectively it all adds up. It is great to see another tool for people on Hive to use.

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yes that is true, am really learnt a lot for this post.kudos to you.

Glad it was of help.

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Excellent work, taking me some time to get my head around it! However an awesome tool we will be using!

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oh ps. we found this post looking on listnerds....

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Not often do I find a post that takes a stepped back strategic view. This one does.

My own Listnerds results shows strong results for getting people to read investing posts - an incentive helps for sure. A code word works too as reward for actually reading through the structure of a post.

Your results from this post - a new follower and an upvote.

Well done.

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Still figuring out all of the possibilities but struggling to understand how they got my username in the title? Can you send mails directly to users? Kinda unbelievable that this person typed all of them manually.

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Listnerds is a great way to introduce new people to the Hive community, there is a lot of people using mailers that dont know about listnerds or Hive.

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Excellent analysis of ListNerds. I also like this crisp definition of what it is: "It is a self-contained email platform that allows people to volunteer to receive emails."

Found your post via... Listnerds. :)

Reblogging.

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Right on the money. Listnerds is awesome on the blockchain. I belonged to listnerds before it's relaunch and it's the best thing Jon & Blain could have done for the platform. It's much more alive now!

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I have been using Listnerds aggressively these past two weeks, and have learned that rather than being a traditional Internet Marketer, it is better to use Listnerds and similar platforms to increase engagement, in this way we can be the purple cow.

I really believe in listnerds but someone dumped 567 listnerds today (go check tribaldex, I don't want to point fingers here) and sold from 1.5 hive. This is what I was expecting. What will happen now, I don't really know. The price will drop dramatically from now on. It's hard to keep it up and I'm expecting a move from admins.