Jobs is a hot topic these days. After the lockdowns due to COVID-19, many people were forced out of work. While the job situation improved somewhat since the trough, it is not the rosiest of outlooks.
However, this is not a recent situation. In fact, this is something that preceded COVID by a couple decades.
If we look at the following chart, we can see the US labor participation rate.
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As we can see, things peaked in the late 1990s and traveled down from there. In short, over the past two decades we did a lousy job of creating jobs.
For those who are unaware, this metric is the number of people working along with those looking for work divided by the total number of working age people. It is considered a better barometer than the unemployment rate which underestimates the true state of unemployment since it omits those who have given up looking for work.
This is a definite warning sign. After the high in the late 1990s, the economy has struggled to keep up with job creation. Even during the run up to the Great Recession, the participation rate dropped.
We saw something similar coming out of the financial collapse, with much of the last decade spent on the downward path. The economy did head up the later part of the decade, only to be zapped by the lockdowns.
Since the bottom, there was a bounce. However, we see the trend starting up again the last couple months.
These are numbers not seen since the mid 1970s.
The Employment-Population ratio tells us the same story.

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This is a different metric that is slightly askew. People who are considered over or under the working age, yet are engaged in work activity such as baby sitting or having a part time job are considered for working yet not counted in the population.
With so many people working later in life, since they cannot afford to fully retire, it makes sense why this chart would differ from the first one. As the Baby Boomers are forced to work longer due to a lack of savings, they will continue to grow for some time.
Many hone onto the unemployment rate as something that is telling. Unfortunately, it is a lousy barometer of what is taking place in the labor market. For this reason, we have to look beyond it to truly understand what is taking place.
As both of these charts reveal, it is not a pretty picture. The last decade plus was a time when, so we were told, the economy was doing well. If that is the case, someone forgot to tell the job market.

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Of course, anyone who pays attention to automation would think this is not surprising. The threat of automation has existed for the last few decades. The blue collar, manufacturing jobs were decimated over the last 30 years. However, they are not the only ones affected.
The use of software is also working to affect the labor force. Jobs are being eliminated in the white collar arena also. With the advancement of AI, even in a non-intelligent state, we see the ability to handle many repetitive tasks quicker and more efficiently.
What is scary about this proposition is that we are just at the beginning stages of this phase. If the trend over the past 20 years was down, what will things look like over the next 10? There is no way the process is going to slow itself down.
We also have another variable in this equation that is going to radically alter the situation. The population is aging for the most part. The Baby Boomers are going to have to leave the workforce at some point. While they might have to hang in there financially, there simply comes a point for most people where we cannot do it anymore. The body, and perhaps the mind, are not up to the task.
This will place an added burden on society since people tend to cut back their spending as they age. When they are in retirement, their consumption simply decreases. Spread over millions of people, this is an enormous impact.
All of this pushes companies to be more efficient. Automation allows them to do that. While this is great for the bottom line, it is not the most beneficial for an economy, especially one that is 70% driven by the consumer.
At the end of the day, regardless of what is spouted by the media, the job situation in the United States is not looking too optimistic. There are long-term trends in place that were ignored which are only getting worse.
This will only be compounded if we do end up entering a recession which is bound to happen at some point.
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The labor force participation rate will continue to drop and it will drop eventually. It will not because more people are working, but more people being unemployed for too long and thus won't be counted towards the number. I don't see how this is good for the normal people because some businesses are permanently closed and businesses move towards automation.
So I don't see anything going well for the "real economy" despite the stock markets going up. There needs to be a way for people to make money and huge changes are going to happen all across the governments and worlds. As for what they do, I do not know.
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Just like in 2008-2010, there will be another "lost generation" of workers. There were a few I knew who lost good paying jobs and basically exited the workforce. They still worked part time, picking up a few bucks here and there (one guy drove a school bus for the medical).
Nevertheless, they were basically out of the workforce permanently. Both between 55-60 at the time.
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Nice post! I also worry about job losses. Covid, refinement of automation, no need for intermediaries, A.I, bring an alarming combination. Even without Covid, technological evolution, as it has happened throughout history, can bring a lot of unemployment. End of some jobs, at the same time new jobs (more specialized). In Brazil it is not very different, and we already have immense social inequality. In the end wish's with a reality better than my expectations.
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All that is true and the culmination of all you describe is very telling. It is not one variable but many.
Yes there will be more jobs created, the challenge is the pace which things are going. We are seeing this happen all over the world, with both blue and white collar jobs getting hit.
It is going to be very interesting how we navigate through this. The only thing I can say is those involved in crypto will be better insulated than others.
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The final mass solution for humans after AI has taken most of the jobs: rent our brain power to AI. Not the rosiest future, if it would become reality.
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AI and us are one in the same. They separation is pushed by Hollywood.
Besides, in the scenario you propose, AI wouldnt need our brains. By that time, the speed which they operate will far surpass what our biology does.
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AI and neural networks evolve based on what you feed them, simulating how we learn. But they are not us.
I think China stands to benefit if the USA gets hit by an economic recession because they did a much better job at containing the virus and they seem to be very focused on surpassing the USA and becoming the world's number one economy
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China came out ahead for the time being. They will have a tough time reaching that point since they have a demographic issue starting to arise. The next 80 years will not be kind to China as a world leader.
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Hello @taskmaster4450le,
Automation is inevitable and unfortunately the COVID-19 pandemic is only accelerating this process once and for all. And if everything is automated many will lose their jobs and consequently the idea of creating a basic income for people would become a reality.
In your view, is the covid-19 vaccine really being as effective as it is said?
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I wouldnt trust it as far as I can throw a Volkswagon.
A product put out by Big Pharma, not really tested, and they can be sued while be touted by the government politicians and bureaucrats.
Screw that.
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@taskmaster4450le have you noticed the way many media platforms in USA makes it look like the job market is doing well but the reality is that the job situation is getting bad....
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The media platforms in the US are completely full of shit and do nothing but promote agendas. That is all they do.
There is nothing newsworthy about the USA media.
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the same is currently happening in Greece and i speculate in most countries as well. That's why i am completely certain that during summer they will open up everything no matter the cost
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I would think so but they are stubborn. Dont forget they want to destroy the economy so they can "build it back better".
Greece is one of those countries where people are rebelling. Keep it up.
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It’s crazy my area is drastically in need of individuals. I also have gotten more calls from recruiters than ever. I can’t get a coming to go way even though I’ve told them no multiple times.
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Certainly there are some fields that are on fire. Construction is one example where there is a labor shortage. The same is true in medical.
But we need to step back and look at the totality of it all. Middle managers are going to be whacked. Paralegals are taking a hit. Bookkeeping is just about dead. Retail is suffering.
And how long until car dealerships are on the decline as the automobile industry changes.
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Middle America is in trouble for sure. I think COVID moved up the automation and streamlining of company process by about 5 years. My company has used the opportunity to lay people off and close under performing plants. Even worse they are still trying to outsource manufacturing even as the tell everyone we are trying to onshore...
I keep seeing the posts but here in Northern California I can’t pass a restaurant or shop that does NOT need help. Problem there is that the jobs pay what seems like a “good” wage $15-18 an hour - but when rents are $2500 or more for a 2 bedroom it’s just not enough.
Yeah well California has had a housing problem for decades and it refuses to solve it. Instead of allowing construction to take place at the rate it needs, it prefers to having regulation, lawsuits, and host of other things that delay projects.
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This is very alarming indeed. I just hope that I can keep my job at least until my investments in crypto really start to pickup and I can make a decent living out of them.
I'm lucky I found out about crypto and Hive relatively early, but many don't have that opportunity.
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That is true and there are many who did who walked away.
So it is a matter of taking advantage of what you find. We will see what the future holds but for most people, it is not very good.
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I have a co-worker and at times lately it has been mind numbing to talk to her. When we talk about the economy, she keeps pointing to how well her investments are doing like that is the be-all end-all determination of how well the economy is. Then I point to the unemployment numbers and it is like it is going completely over her head. How can you not see what is right in front of you!
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People simply do not understand finance or economics. They are fed a lot of bullshit by the media, professors, and what not. In the end, they cannot see what is right there.
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It is very sad. Unfortunately they will likely be dealing with the consequences of what they chose to ignore before long.
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Yes it is simply how it is. We cannot keep people from being their own worst enemy. They will spend hours a day on Facebook yet not spend even a few hours a week learning about finance or money management.
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I was just saying I need to start looking at some online coding courses. Been years since I did any and I have always wanted to get back into it. It never came natural to me so it was always hard and not worth my time in the past.
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