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RE: Tell me something you like and dislike about hive

in Ask the Hive3 months ago

Being able to earn by creating content without a barrier to entry - like YouTube with its 1,000 subscribers and 4,000 watch hours. It's a great platform, but something I dislike is the way content almost becomes dead after a few days, as it gets buried.

Hive has the same problem. Content isn't evergreen. After seven days, no one cares, and discovery of older content is really poor. I struggle to find my own posts using search on any of the platforms, when using phrases and sentences that I remember having included, or vaguely searching for the title.

I think the underling issue is that the Internet is now a timeline, not a library. Libraries constantly have people going back to look at the archive of a library, while for HIVE, people are only looking at the new content.

I can't remember the last time I had a comment on an older post.

I also thoroughly agree with you on genuine engagement. So many people pop in to try and farm a random upvote on their comment, without adding anything substantive to the discussion - if there's even a discussion going on.

Perhaps it isn't the dead Internet theory, and maybe that's just truly the level of interest that people have in each other.

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After seven days, no one cares...

In theory. And in practice already after 2 days nobody cares anymore because of the decreasing curation rewards over time - which favours automated voting compared to slower manual curation.

I struggle to find my own posts using search on any of the platforms...

True. Therefore in my case I pinned an overview about all my posts on top of my blog, but yes, it should be easier!

I personally write mainly for myself (using HIVE as a storage for my experiences, memories, ideas and thoughts), not for others (if some readers like to interact with my content it's fine though). So for me my posts on HIVE are "evergreen" in a way that they are saved permanently undeletable on a blockchain but not in the sense of rewarding me financially for a long time.

Decreasing curation rewards won't harm my enjoyment of a piece of writing - if I really do enjoy it, I enjoy it, I shouldn't need a reward to enjoy content, the content itself should suffice as the enjoyment.

If we have established that content creators create not to extract value (but some do) - and automated voting is an issue - then perhaps a downvote on some content may be justified as not the content being bad, but the other curators being bad? :) Its a complex place. And a thought experiment I haven't had before.

Regarding the notion of archive: It is deletable, if all the nodes vanish - but the block log is stored in many different places. But it isn't stored in all places. Decentralisation for it could be better, a lot of the nodes are concentrated within Privex infrastructure.

I write for me as well, but as part of my growth as a writer, a photographer, and a human being, I cannot help but be influenced by the information I discover, I read, and the conversation that I have with others. It broadens my horizon.

Decreasing curation rewards won't harm my enjoyment of a piece of writing

Sure, might be in your case, but that doesn't change the fact that interaction in posts decreases rapidly two days after publication because a big majority of potential curators simply doesn't care anymore then.

I also noticed that for example a post that haven't been hit by a trail within the first two days won't be discovered anymore during the days 3 to 7.

I personally don't care about when I upvote a post but the majority does.

I shouldn't need a reward to enjoy content ...

But fact is also that (unfortunately!?) nearly all curators and a big majority of authors care about their rewards. Let's face it that for many HIVE users the expectation to earn some money is the main reason for being here (and I actually think it is a valid reason among others).

It is deletable, if all the nodes vanish...

Not only then. Also when the latest in roughly 1 billion years if the Sun will make life on Earth unbearable, long before it turns into a red giant and potentially destroys Earth entirely, the probability is rather high that then also my content will get lost forever. ;-)

Not only then. Also when the latest in roughly 1 billion years if the Sun will make life on Earth unbearable, long before it turns into a red giant and potentially destroys Earth entirely, the probability is rather high that then also my content will get lost forever. ;-)

I read about that in a book in primary school. I still remember standing in the library, holding that book. It has only recently been a notion of mine that this, too, will happen to all the stars in the Universe, so there's no escape from loss and decay as we know it.

But, if we still get enjoyment from something, we should enjoy it even more knowing that it too, will one day be gone.

Perhaps we need a sorter on a front end, that works similar to ebay's "ending soonest" so people can nuke "unused" voting power on posts they would have otherwise missed, or to discover content that would perhaps have gone overlooked due to the time it was posted, or other factors.

I know there's not as much reward for a curator there, but perhaps it may see someone go, "well, that incentives me to do even better on my next one!"

(And conversely, people could also use to adjust rewards down prior to payout)

Yeah actually, speaking of the search function, it's basically none existent, for example if you go and seach someone's account name, the first thing you come across - on Ecency anyway - is someone else's post who might have tagged the user you're looking for. It's a bit backward. As for finding particular articles, forget it.

Also, yeah, there is no reason that posts should just die. After about 3 days, it's dead. That's where a good algorithm could help, because I know for a fact that there are some great pieces of work on here from years ago that deserves a read, even if it can't earn anything from an upvote.

I'd love to just be consistently presented with what I enjoy reading, even if the content is years old. On no other site online, does the user have to work to find something to watch or read.

PeakD collections are pretty good if you're interested in an author's style or development.

IF, and obviously, only IF they use that feature

I maintain a few for my various "categories" of content, eg, I have one for my photography, one for my game reviews, and I should probably have one for the books I've read each year, as well, come to think of it...

Its on the user to maintain them, but I use that as sort of a "Self index" these days to find my own content when I want to cross reference or provide more context to a new post that references stuff I've done in the past.

Oh, that's pretty sick, I should take advantage of that feature. I've written so many short stories that I'd love to compile, as well as general world building notes.

I mainly use Ecency, which has some good features, but I should really spend some more time on PeakD.

The content I write bounces around a bit, I'd say 30% short stories/ longer multi-part novellas, 30% world building notes, 20% film and game reviews, and 20% general life blogs. But, there are other offshoot things I write.

It's a good idea to have a self index. I know keeping my work organized would help with world building stuff, especially if I'm looking for a bit of inspiration for a story.

Awesome! Glad to have introduced you to a new feature. As for me, I've never used Ecency, I always thought of it as a more mobile-first interface from the early days, but I could be wrong - and I'm happy to be wrong! What is your favourite feature of the platform?

I will give you a follow, as I've been starting to write a bit more fiction. I have the illusion that I will be able to crack out an anthology of speculative fiction by the end of the year. Looking at the calendar, I have ... uh, 5 months? And I have about .... 12 story ideas, two half written. So.. I guess, its possible, if I write two a month?

That's another collection I should probably stand up... lol

Too many ideas, not enough hours in the second.

There is nothing better than a good challenge! 5 months is plenty of time, but it's a marathon, not a sprint, so take your time with it. Sometimes, inspiration can strike well after a story is "finished." There have been plenty of times where weeks or months afterward I've read something, only to re-write the bulk of it and create something that I'm really happy with, so bare that in mind.

I've written a lot on here, all based in a sci-fi universe, and while I enjoy longer form stories, I really love my anthology collection of shorts. There is way more freedom to get boots on the ground and explore, which can result in some really cool places and people, even histories.

My favorite feature of Ecency is the mobile app, I use it so much for reading and sometimes even for writing. I think it's well put together, but the main reason I use it - I think - is the fact that it was the first one I found when I signed up haha

I have a post with some ideas / intentions as well as two of the stories I've written for it so far. A lot of these stories have been floating around in my head for a very long time, so I've thought a lot about them.

I think there's going to be some common themes throughout the stories, and while... they could exist in the same "world", I think it would be too dense, too confusing, and would require too much compromise for it to all fit together.

I really do deeply respect people who can handle the puzzle pieces of multiple bits of lore and world building tightly integrating together.

Regarding platforms... I have started using peakd in a web browser on my mobile, it might be time to give Ecency a go on mobile. Another thing for my to do list.

Also, it turns out I've been following you already, so not sure why I don't remember reading more of your stuff. Could have something to do with the four hours of sleep...