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RE: What do you think would happen if all "formal" abuse fighting services stopped?

"The other thing I wonder is if people would then be forced to take a more active role in the policing of the platform as they wouldn't be able to "outsource" the activity to others. Part of the issue with the outsourcing is that it allows people to basically say, "it isn't my job" and leave the dirty work up to others."

This is exactly why there is more crime in America today than there was prior to 1900. Before 1900 we didn't have a lot of cops. People knew they needed to provide their personal security, so competent people did. Criminals didn't have many available defenseless victims to prey on, so there weren't many criminal predators.

But when cops started being put on the streets, people quit providing their own security, and criminals had more potential defenseless victims. Crime rates skyrocketed.

Cops cause crime.

I suspect that relying on 'official' spamfighters causes spam in the same way. I sure don't want to see loads of spam and plagiarism on Hive, so I do want competent users to police their platform.

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Weird. You must live in a different world.

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Perhaps you interpret what you read differently. We didn't gradually increase the numbers of policemen from 1700 to 1900. We did periodically dramatically improve technology. By 1900 ordinary citizens had repeating rifles, and the great Colt .45. These were much better mechanisms for providing security than flintlocks, and our security improved dramatically, as the highlighted text reveals.

The next paragraph points out exactly what happened after American started putting cops on the streets - crime rose dramatically. The imposition of cops into more and more areas of our lives, and particularly The War Against Treatment (TWAT) begun by Nixon and hugely exacerbated by Reagan in the '80s, is revealed in the rapidly increasing prison population.

What I said was:

"Before 1900 we didn't have a lot of cops. People knew they needed to provide their personal security, so competent people did. Criminals didn't have many available defenseless victims to prey on, so there weren't many criminal predators.

"But when cops started being put on the streets, people quit providing their own security, and criminals had more potential defenseless victims. Crime rates skyrocketed."

Pretty much what your selected text says.

During WWI and WWII American men, most of the supply of potential criminals, were taxed by war, and weren't as available to commit predatory crimes. Only after WWII did both cops on the streets lull people into a false sense of security and a nominal supply of criminals coincide.

Edit: I will just add that today, wherever there are the most cops with the most power, you will find the most crime impacted societies.

Whatever narrative suits you.

Words have meaning. Are you trying to say that after 1900 the source you cite doesn't state, as I did and do, that crime rose dramatically?

This coincided with more folks in blue uniforms and fewer people packing heat.

Cops cause crime.

Are you a cop? Never thought about your nick before. I suppose my comment would be extremely offensive to a cop. If so, there is a way to resolve our antipathy: get a real job instead of beating up old people on the street.

Aren't you the "intellectual" (who make lots of assumptions about others).

Not interested in having conversation with your kind. Too many of those on Hive.

Really makes this place attractive.

Huh. You're the one who cited proof of my statements.

You people that project onto others the statements of the voices in your head can just go ahead and talk to them instead of me. I'm sure they say what you are interested in hearing.

Yeah, just don't about breaking private properties.

Bye.

I sure don't want to see loads of spam and plagiarism on Hive, so I do want competent users to police their platform.

"their" is an important point in that sentence. It is theirs, it is ours and if we all want to have a place that benefits the most, we have to take some responsibility for maintenance. Unfortunately, not everyone is going to be a good actor or have good intentions.