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RE: The formula for building influence

in OCD3 years ago

Another excellent and insightful commentary. I'm beginning to really enjoy having found your work to add to my follow list.

At one point you use the phrase "a type of "logic" that gets applied to all content". Being a philosopher by training and understanding that logic is not subjective but an objective system of rules for determining the veracity of arguments, could you explain what you intended by 'type of logic'?

I whole heartedly agree with your closing paragraph. That state of affairs is exactly how the world works today and the reasoning is precisely as you point out, enslaving the masses to the whims and profit ambitions of a select few. This is exactly the reason I joined Hive, to try and combat the manipulation through the one thing I'm particularly good at...helping others to discover understanding and a broader perspective.

A key struggle I am trying to figure out is how to get content well viewed without having to constantly repost work. Maybe I'm not getting how Hive as a form of social media really works but my concern is that key concepts that are crucial for potential audience understanding get lost over time as I progress in posting new content. I would greatly enjoy your perspective on this.

My intent is to create a community that can discuss/debate critical issues and fundamental principles in a real time manner and act as a 'think tank' that generates functional ideas which can in turn become working projects that allow us all to participate in proactive movement towards real progress. In other words leverage systems such as the Hive Ecosystem to educate, create, organize, promote action and even provide financial bootstrapping.

I suspect you are one who would enjoy participating in such a project and your work so far tells me you would be an invaluable resource to it.

Thanks for the work you do.
Blessed be.

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could you explain what you intended by 'type of logic'

Yeah, I can add a bit more. What I mean by this is the pattern of behavior that is unique to the author and flows through the content. I am loose with my terminology (hence the "quotes") but from the definition, there are two types

  • reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.
    "experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic"
  • a system or set of principles underlying the arrangements of elements in a computer or electronic device so as to perform a specified task.

You mention and use the first, I am applying the second to human behavior - in this case, perhaps more personality. We are all conditioned and act in pretty uniform ways and are quite predictable, once decoded. I think most people don't actually know themselves very well, which is why we are so easily manipulated by algorithms designed to hijack our code - making us slaves.

This is exactly the reason I joined Hive, to try and combat the manipulation through the one thing I'm particularly good at...helping others to discover understanding and a broader perspective.

It makes for a valuable purpose and life and on Hive, the value comes in many forms.

A key struggle I am trying to figure out is how to get content well viewed without having to constantly repost work.

It is a challenge for everyone, including me. The only advice I can really give in this area is that it is about building lasting relationships in the community with those who value what you do. Slowly, the network grows and more people join the conversation. What you will also find is that the most engaged accounts are those who have built a persona of some kind around themselves. They might not be known IRL, but they are consistent.

One of the problems with the system is that old content is pretty much dead, even if it is still valuable. There are ways this can change in the future, but it is what it is for now.

In other words leverage systems such as the Hive Ecosystem to educate, create, organize, promote action and even provide financial bootstrapping.

It is worth exploring the various communities and seeing what is adjacent as well, as there might be people to connect with that will help you on your way. What will rally underpin Hive is a lot of niche communities that get support from people who are using several communities to add to and consume from. There needs to be a lot of consumers of course, but that takes time as it is more valuable to create here, even if not creating much of value.

Thanks for the feedback. You are correct in that I do use the proper definition of logic. At the same time Theory of Mind is an area of particular interest to my philosophical endeavors and there can be no doubt that non-rational elements are a fundamental part of human nature. It is manipulation of these elements that allow the 'users' to shackle others to their ambitions. Fortunately it is also possible to use the same tactics in conjunction with logic and reason to combat such practices.

and there can be no doubt that non-rational elements are a fundamental part of human nature.

We all act rationally, until we step outside of ourselves and look at it objectively.

Fortunately it is also possible to use the same tactics in conjunction with logic and reason to combat such practices.

To be able to use the skills well, requires emotional control, something that has been eroded in society for decades.

I have to disagree with your first statement here, primarily because I agree wholly with your second one.

Rational action only happens when one uses logic and critical reasoning in decision making and as we have agreed before this seldom happens now. The most powerful tools the manipulators have is their ability to get others to 'think' emotionally. This is how they have 'enslaved' so many and as you point out this process has been happening for decades and has a significant portion of the general population enthralled.

When I pointed out that there are undeniable non-rational elements as part of human nature it was my intent to imply that these are what get manipulated. Emotion, when allowed to influence decision making, makes the process irrational. The best value of emotion is it's ability to take thought/ideas and convert them into action. I like to phrase this, "Thought without emotion is impotent however thought derived through emotion is irrational and easily manipulated by others".