~ Let your numbers grow ~
Hello Everyone! This more than a review of a game is a study in the appeal of Idle games that people and me have towads them, I'll explain good and bad cases and why I think the're so interesting.
Fuente: Memecenter
¿Porque el amor a estos juegos? - Why the love for these games?
I think that it comes from RPGs where everything is about farming and farming that is, killing enemies, leveling up, repeat for hours and hours, there are many people who saw this as a waste of time, they want to beat the Boss and continue the story,but it wasn't that simple. There was also the other group of people who just farmed to see their numbers grow, their attack, defense, and other attributes grow and grow, and see how satisfying doing 99999 damage to an enemy or defeating a boss in a turn / attack.
Fuente: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - rpgcodex
Ahora que pasaría si les digo que ese limite puede no existir, que hay juegos ya sean RPG o no donde ese limite es inexistente, aquí entran los juegos incrementales, estos juegos te permiten tener tu personaje (o un grupo de ellos) o objetos o propiedades lo que se les venga a la mente y puedes subir su poder infinitamente. Esto es donde yo creo que proviene el atractivo de estos juegos, yo he jugado 8 juegos incrementales y les contare porque algunos los abandone pero a otros les tengo muchas horas y me siguen encantando.
But of course there are games (and many RPGs in specific) that will not allow you to be level 100000 and defeat everything with a breath, that is why many games have a limit in their numbers,the perfect example is in Pokemon where they can only reach level 100 and you cannot increase the attributes of your Pokémons over a certain number.Now what if I tell you that this limit could not exist,that there are games either RPG or not where that limit is non-existent, here's where we have the Idle games , these games allow you to have your character (or a group of them) or objects or properties, whatever comes to mind and you can infinitely increase its power.This is where I think the appeal of these games comes from, I have played 8 incremental games and I'll tell you why some of them leave but others I have many hours and I still love them.
Los malos - The bad ones
First what is that differentiates a good Idle game from a bad one, usually they have the functionality "when you reach a certain level or the enemy is very strong you can restart the whole game but now you will have a power or speed multiplier" what happens first is, if the Idle game has a limit and that limit is not satisfactory it is instantly bad.
El ejemplo perfecto de esto es AdVenture Capitalist (y sus clones), si has jugado este sabras que lo unico que lo mantiene vivo son sus eventos, cada cierto tiempo aparecera un evento con nuevos objetivos y recompensas al final, pero luego de revisa en steam ...172 horas y sin ponerle un centavo al juego tengo todas las cosas en nivel máximo y lo que el juego me ofrece es vender todo 100% y empezar desde 0 solo con los trajes que obtienes.
Este juego fue mi primer juego Idle y me enseño a decir numeros como NovemTrigintillion pero cuando ya llegas al limite y tienes todo al maximo es muy aburrido el juego.
The perfect example of this is AdVenture Capitalist (and its clones), if you have played this you will know that the only thing that keeps it alive are its events, from time to time an event will appear with new objectives and rewards at the end, but after checking on steam ... 172 hours and without putting a penny to the game I have all the things at maximum level and what the game offers me is to sell everything 100% and start from 0 only with the costumes you get.This game was my first Idle game and it taught me to say numbers like NovemTrigintillion but when you reach the limit and have everything to the maximum the game is very boring.
Tambien otra cosa mala es cuando los objetivos de tu juego son excesivamente dificiles, es decir o debes pasar meses en el juego esperando o debes pagar para hacer mas rapido la espera, el ejemplo perfecto de esto es blush blush/crush crush (en caso que te gusten los hombres, blush blush y mujeres, crush crush) ambos juegos te ponen una serie de personajes y debes hablar con ellos, salir en citas para desbloquear escenas con ellos, es el juego Idle de novelas visuales.
¿Que esta mal con este juego? si ves en los foros o el 4chan del juego la gente tuvo que usar TRAMPAS para hacer que el ultimo personaje durara UNAS SEMANAS para obtenerlo es decir si no haces trampas puedes durar años en el juego esperando obtener al ultimo personaje, y si no fuera que como dije la recompensa es unas palabras del personaje y tal vez una imagen provocativa que no vale la pena. (Oh y no hablemos de los personajes ODVIAMENTE copiados de celebridades de youtube les dejare un video de un youtuber jugando blush blush para desbloquearse a el mismo)
Also another bad thing is when the objectives of your game are excessively difficult, that is, you must spend months in the game waiting or you must pay to make the wait shorter, the perfect example of this is blush blush / crush crush (in case if you like men, blush blush and women, crush crush) both games give you a series of characters and you must talk to them, go on dates to unlock scenes with them, it is the Idle game of visual novels.What is wrong with this game? If you see in the forums or the 4chan of the game, people had to use CHEATS to make the final character last A FEW WEEKS to get it,that is to say if you don't cheat you can last years in the game hoping to get the final character,and if it wasn't that as I said the reward is a few words from the character and perhaps a provocative image that is not worth it.(Oh and let's not talk about the characters ODIOUSLY copied from YouTube celebrities I will leave you a video of a youtuber playing blush blush to unlock himself)
¿Que mas podemos tener mal? juegos aburridos, si tu juego no tiene nada ya sea divertido o lo unico que tienen es un "arte unico" se vuelve aburrido rapidamente, aqui voy a poner a Clicker heroes y Insanity clicker ambos juegos son exactamente el mismo, solo que sus artes son vastamente diferentes, pero en verdad no tienen nada interesante, jugue ambos por unos dias y nunca mas.
What else can we have wrong? boring games, if your game does not have anything either fun or the only thing they have is a "unique art" then it turn boring rather quickly, here I am going to put Clicker heroes and Insanity clicker both games are exactly the same, only that their arts are vastly different, but in truth they have nothing interesting, I played both for a few days and never again.
Los buenos - The good ones
Oh GOD y eso es sin contar las horas que le puse cuando el juego no habia salido en steam y estaba en Kongregate.
Ahora ustedes diran que tengo todo maxeado, pero no es asi me falta por lo menos una "dificultad" mas del juego y 400 niveles mas, pero de verdad todo en el juego vale la pena, a diferencia de blush blush donde esperas meses para unas palabritas con el personaje y listo aqui esperas meses para desbloquear un metodo nuevo y UNICO para subir tu "numero" que es el factor de reseteo del juego tu "numero" multiplica tu ataque y defensa.
Now let's talk about a very good game: NGU Idle until today I have * look at his steam *Oh GOD and that's not counting the hours that I put in when the game hadn't come out on steam and was on Kongregate.
Now you might think that I have everything maxed out, but I am missing at least one more "difficulty" of the game and 400 more levels,but really everything in the game is worth it, unlike blush blush where you wait months for some little words with the character and that's it, here you wait months to unlock a new and UNIQUE method to raise your "number" which is the reset factor of the game your "number" multiplies your attack and defense.
Lo mejor del juego es su humor, el humor del juego es perfecto, encontrar formas de hacer reir a alguien luego de meses no muchos lo pueden hacer, y no solo con la historia principal del juego sino en otras cosas.
¿De que va el juego? tu eres un chico que despierta en unas cloacas y debes vences "jefes" cada uno mas poderoso que el anterior, tan simple como eso ahora no solo la historia es hilarante sino que cada pieza de equipamento tiene un chiste pegado (como parte de lore) pero tambien al desbloquear nuevas formas de subir tu "numero" tienen chistes regados en todos lados, y luego de unas semanas jugando llegaras a los Titanes, jefes de jefes que cada uno diferente al anterior y tiene formas muy interesantes de combatirlos.
The best thing about the game is its humor, the humor of the game is perfect, finding ways to make someone laugh after months of play, not many can do it, and not only in the main story of the game but in other things.What is the game about? you are a boy who wakes up in some sewers and you must beat "bosses" each one more powerful than the previous one, as simple as that now not only is the story hilarious but each piece of equipment has a joke attached (as part of lore) but also when you're unlocking new ways to raise your "number" they're jokes spread everywhere, and after a few weeks playing you'll reach the Titans, bosses of bosses that each one different from the previous one and has very interesting ways of fighting them.
Les contare el ejemplo de Walderp Copyright free Waldo una vez que lo desbloqueas si quieres atacarlo el se "esconde" en una pantalla random del juego, al que debes buscarlo y clickearlo para atacarlo, justo como waldo se esconde muy bien y el juego tiene muchas pantallas, y con esto aparte del humor tambien tiene referencias oh las referencias son oro, desde Rick y Morty hasta JoJo's Bizzare adventure tiene de todo para los geeks es un juego que tiene mucho amor y dedicacion de solo un chico, y es muy muy genial ver tu "numero" crecer hasta que llegues a "Sexsexagintillion The sexiest number ;)". si asi esta en el juego
El arte es muy lindo, se nota que es hecho por un chico,
¿pero como no puedes querer a "Badly Drawn Kitty"?
I will tell you the example of Walderp Copyright free Waldo once you unlock it if you want to attack him he "hides" in a random screen of the game, to which you must look for it and click it to attack it, just as waldo hides very well and the game has many screens, and apart from the humor it also has references oh the references are gold, from Rick and Morty to JoJo's Bizzare adventure it has everything for geeks it is a game that has a lot of love and dedication from just one guy, and it is very very great watch your "number" grow until you get to "Sexsexagintillion The sexiest number;)". yes that's how it is in the gameThe art is very cute, it shows that it's made by one guy, but how can you not love "Badly Drawn Kitty"?
En fin para mi este juego si es bueno porque encuentra nueva formas de innovar la jugabilidad, incluir nuevos recursos, atributos nuevas formas de llamar tu atencion, que hasta debes hacer una estrategia para ciertas cosas en el juego, es un juego que no puedo dejar de jugar y recomiendo muchisimo lo intenten y se rian conmigo.
In short, for me this game is good because it finds new ways to innovate the gameplay, include new resources, attributes, new ways to attract your attention, that you should even make a strategy for certain things in the game, it is a game that I cannot stop playing and I highly recommend you try it out and laugh with me.
Por ultimo otro que me ha tenido pegado es Realm Grinder, este juego consiste en comprar propiedades y obtener suficiente oro para canjear por gemas y reiniciar el juego, tambien tiene facciones que te puedes aliar si tienes suficientes monedas.
Se nota muy parecido a Clicker heroes solo que con propiedades y no heroes, la diferencia es que mientra mas abdiques desbloquearas las reencarnaciones y mientras mas reencarnes desbloquearas las ascenciones, y en este proceso desbloqueas un monton de funcionalidades unicas, hace poco entre en las investigaciones que hacen que las primeras facciones mas debiles se vuelvan mas fuertes y añade demasiada rejugabilidad ya que hay muchas formas de usarlas.
Finally another one that I'm stuck on Realm Grinder, this game consists of buying properties and getting enough gold to exchange for gems and restart the game, it also has factions that you can join if you have enough coins.It is very similar to Clicker heroes, except that with properties and not heroes, the difference is that the more abdication you do you unlock the reincarnations and the more reincarnations you unlock the ascentions and in this process you unlock a lot of unique functionalities, recently entered the research which make the first weaker factions stronger and add too much replayability as there are so many ways to use them.
Incluso para desbloquear los Researches es necesario pensar un poco (o usar una guia) porque no son faciles de desbloquear, no tiene mucho humor pero ver como crecen los edificios (cuando tocan cierto numero de edificios se vuelven mas grandes) y ver el monton de gemas es muy satifactorio, tambien este es el un juego que me tiene muy activo en su comunidad, buscando las mejores builds y leyendo la wiki para tener una estrategia, ha sido el unico que me hizo cambiar de numeros cortos (Duodecillon, OctoTrigintillon) a numeros cientificos (1e101, 1e105) al hacer estrategias con las funciones del juego, super recomendado.
Even to unlock the Researches it is necessary to think a little (or use a guide) because they are not easy to unlock, it does not have much humor but to see how the buildings grow (when they touch a certain number of buildings they become larger) and see the pile of Gems is very satisfying, also this is one game that has me very active in its community, looking for the best builds and reading the wiki to have a strategy, it was the only one that made me change from short numbers (Duodecillon, OctoTrigintillon) to Scientific numbers (1e101, 1e105) when making strategies with the functions of the game, highly recommended.
¿Deberias jugar estos juegos? - Should you play this games?
Yo diria que si tienes paciencia Y te encantan ver tus numeros subir y subir que les des un chance puede que incluso los que a mi no me gustaron te gusten a ti, pero cuentenme si alguna vez han jugado uno de estos juegos, ¿les gusto? ¿lo siguen jugando?
Bueno hasta luego, nos vemos gente de Hive!.
I would say that if you have patience AND you love to see your numbers go up and up that you give them a chance, maybe even those that I did not like you will like, but tell me if you have ever played one of these games, Did you like them? Are you still playing it?Well until later, see ya people of Hive!
NGU Idle Wiki
Realm Grinder Wiki
AdVenture Capitalist Reddit
Blush Blush Reddit
rpgcodex- Xenoblade Chronicles 2
More info on Idle Games
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Disclaimer: Todas las imagenes que no tengan fuente fueron tomadas por mi - All images that do not have it's source were taken by me
DISCLAIMER THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE CONTAINS A LOT OF HATE!!!
I noticed after reading your post something that I already knew, I fucking hate these games, mainly because I understood, thanks to you, that these kind of games aren't good because of their gameplay but because something entirely different, writing, comedy or something else, that's bullshit for real, but now the real hate, HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHO THE HELL INVENTED THESE KINDS OF GAMES? WATING IS NOT A GAME MECHANIC, IS THE KIND OF SHIT YOU DO WHILE ON THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE, YOU'RE TELLING ME I SPENT 20+ YEARS HONING MY GAMING SKILLS AND NOW WATING IS A THING?!?!?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
But maaaaaaaaaaaaaaannn they're games made by lazy people for lazy people xDDDDD of course let's not be IGN and say that "It has something for everybody" because they don't xD so i understand your hate, but you can't kill Idle games MUAHAHAHAHAAH
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Definitivamente me encantan tus posts de juegos xD
ayyy <3 pero a mi me encantas tu bb