but this is a one sided discussion because I have never seen any of the bigger whales responding to me or even talking in any of this issues. If only the small fish will be debating between them it will difficult to get any improvements.
Who wants to be on a social media platform to kill that that only talks about the own platform itself. Imagine on twitter people only tweet about twitter app, on youtube people only upload videos about the algorithm, on facebook people only talk about the new updates. How entertaining and interesting that would be?
The stakes are different. And Hive has many more variables than traditional Social media interaction. For example:
I give your comment a like, but I give our comment a like because I like it, not necessarily because I wanted to earn from it. But I gave it a 1% upvote. Not because I didn't feel you didn't deserve the earnings, but because I want to preserve my RC's because I tend to like comments at 100% and then realize my upvote is really low when I decide to upvote actual posts I want to give a full upvote.
Someone could interpret that as me caring less about them then others, which is not at all the case.
Of course whales give bigger votes to things they care about. And if there is no-one in your niche, it gets hard. Hive is very much a hive mentally at the moment, but it is because we need each other. There is no centralized company that delegates to every project. There is a DAO. I bet a lot of people get upset that their idea isn't being funded but others do. It isn't fair, but the dynamics have also changed. We are no longer on a popularized platform with 1 million users, but in a much smaller eco-system with less than 50k users. So voting distribution is different, communities are formed differently and content discovery is different. You know that I follow you but rarely even see your posts. I often find posts that I love weeks after the payout. I found out through twitter about this video!
Whales might not have anything to gain from responding to this post. I know that if they find your content trash, they'd downvote you and probably let you know in the comments why they don't feel it is of value. In this case both Gandalf and Bernie found your post of value and upvoted.
About the one sided discussion, @lordbutterfly might not be a whale, but he gave a different perspective. I didn't like the 'GTFO' part, but he did make several points that give an impression of how others might feel. I do feel the hard fork did you wrong and kind of split up your support into a group that moved, a group that stayed but also a group that was like... we're done. But you have to reinvent. It's like YouTubers that were on top of mind for years and all of a sudden see their numbers drop. It could be the algorithm, it could be the whales, a loss of fans, saturated content, more competition (in content that needs curation). I could be devil's advocate and provide possible reasons why you'd lose traction, but I don't feel you deserve that. Like I said I respect you and you are indeed one of the people here that has always been authentic en open about everything.
I appreciate and I am thankful fornyour words, your opinions and also your input. But I decided to try to have this conversation not just for myself butnin the bigger picture. Because no matter how interesting i might find blockchain and our community nowadays... I usually don't even come here myself to consume content when I am bored. Because I know it will be all "work and hive" so how others will do? The fork is something else that have a lot to talk about. Me being an APPICS ambassador and still be active everyday in there is also something I am judging for and I know that. Everytime I mention it here You can see the silent around it.
You know I wouldn't give myself this trouble if I didn't wanted to see this coin go grow stronger. To see many dapps come out and be successful. To get out there taking this flag and bring everyone to be part of it. But I can't do it when all they will read and see around is HIVE. I wouldn't have made and tried to start the #hiveisrealmoney hashtag if I didn't believe in what we have here.
Yes I might need to change and become a sellout like many did here in the blockchain and just start uploading content that is completely empty of any content and just repeting over and over again about the updates of the dapps. New features, just rip off their original posts and read the bullet points in a video. And bam. Load of engagement and upvotes. But a miserable life and just contributing to hide artists and other content creators that are actually doing something different here in the blockchain.
And as You said maybe. Maybe some of my content is interesting and You actually would have liked to find it before. But because it is not hive content... it will never get on the hot, trending or even get shared....
I'm sorry if I sound very defensive but I get really heated when discussing about stuff I am passionate about. 😉
Have you considered creating your own Hive community? To attract people who really like your content? Create a fan community....that is what I think would be great for you.
maybe. But that's the whole point. I don't think this is all about me. Lol and I am not that egocentric even if it might look like and apparently a lot of people in here think that. For the ones that have dealt closely with me and had more conversations with me know pretty well that I am actually the opposite.
No, it's good. Like I said, your being honest about it. And it is good to find out where the actual problem lies.
Hive is not Steem. The community structure is different. Appics really is a Steem dapp. Appics has 100k delegation on Steem, practically none on Hive. On Hive, people value Ecency and Dapplr more, even though Appics might be more of the modern Social media feel. But they haven't posted here for over 2 months. Btw.. you know this. Your Dapplr video got a massive payout.
The Appics discussion goes much deeper than that and is a whole other discussion in its own right.
I don't think you have to sell out. Especially not if it makes you miserable.
The biggest problem is you admitting that you don't come here to consume content when you're bored. That:
Whether these 3 points are fair or not, it does play a role. Btw, I also love the fact you are at honest about it, because many others aren't.
The humanization of the platform has always been an issue. But if you consider yourself an influencer on this platform, you should be the one creating those serendipitous moments. You are actually one of the people that can pull it off.
Yeah for sure APPICS it is a whole other conversation. But the most important detail is that for the big HIVE supporters if I am still on APPICS mean I am not a trully HIVE believer and I am straight away put aside. But that is a whole other conversation. Maybe another 20 minutes video coming soon 🤣🤣🤣
Yes I have seen that I got some nice rewards on the dapplr video. And I was honestly expecting. Once again because all the higher powers were ragging and excited about the launch. But the reason I have decided to talk about wasn't the votes. It was because I thought it is an app that can do a lot for what this blockchain promise to offer their users. A social media platform. So i thought it was important to share with people on my circles that have similar interest and in this case I thought telling them about the app could be useful for them like it can be useful for me. To fulfil the goals of having a social media platform that reward everyone for their engagements.
I was also never shy when it comes to admitting the lack of time I spend consuming content in the blockchain. And I am very open about that. Once again due to the fact that it is difficult to find content that is not related with the development of the bkockchain, new dapps, listings on exchanges, technicalities of the platforms, new features on all the interfaces. And I understand how that can be very exciting for people that are more technical and have the knowledge on this area but that's not my case. So for me as an average user and a creative person that can get boring very fast. I don't have the skills or the knowledge to keep it up or being able to understand it all. So opening all this communities and exploring this dapps on the blockchain for years and struggle to find something more relaxing obviously it gets me demotivated to keep trying. Specially when over and over again along the years I have seen so many talented creatives joining the community, getting excited, creating exclusive content for the platform, trying to take our flag and get it out there to just see them disappear for lake of interest and support in what they do. I have seen too many people coming and going. I have seen the community losing a lot of great creative artists. And that's why I also don't look much for that content here because I don't want to find that people, see their excitement to be in a new community that might give them a nice warm welcome for a week or two to give up on them straight away after that and go back to the hive cycle of non ending posts. It is hard to keep losing people like that. Heart breaking.
there are new communities forming now that have nothing to do with blockchain. For example, the Makeup Power community.
Yeah I have seen. And I hope they can get support from some whales.
that's why @adiwathrive is doing vibes here, to highlight content creators that are doing good with a mindset of mind body and spirit (:
if you don't have the time, were doing columns by Monday to Friday (this week we're off) of bilingual content, in a human way , you could have a look and see if something it's good
altough I would love to support professional and semiprofessional content only, I always put my treshold low to help content creators that I know they could do it better, so, I took the time to nurture bad content creators (not everybody, just the ones I think are dealing with the surface and still are not cracking the egg of their imagination....) of course I have patience to do this and a passion for education.
that's a long term m solution because even if we change the plattform, humans are the same since centuries, only music can stop this, and complain is also noise when you're not giving a solution, can we be agree on that?
of course it works for catharsis, I do this myself, but find a creative approach for your social criticism and find a time to give on feedback to others what you love to see on yours 🙂 cheers
you're part of the trouble when you're not using part of your valuable time to give value to others (I could relate this,)
Thanks for taking the time to reply. And I do understand what You mean when Youbsay that humans will always be humans and if I am not presenting solutions I am part of the problem. I get that and I respect it. But as someone that isn't at all tech savy or even muchnof a crypto expert it can be difficult to come up with solutions straight away. What I can bring to the table is my experience as a user of social media platforms and a consumer of content. And I keep trying to do that over and over again. But if I don't get any of the big ones and developers to grab what I say and my opinions sonwe can work together in solutions it is difficult to actually make something happen. Also I feel that onenof the problems is actually the lack of humanity we might be cultivating here on the community. Too many bots and ways to make a quick buck instead of doing that long term grown you talk about.
I feel you. No disagreement there.
I only can keep doing my best to try to make this community the best I can for myself and everyone that like me made HIVE their home for their content. 😀 thank You so much for the time and attention on this issue.
🙏 Likewise, thank you for addressing it and taking your time to discus it.
We need to have these kind of conversations if we want to scale Hive and onboard new members. I look at it from a positive perspective. There is so much room to grow.