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RE: Project Hive - SOS Call!

in Project HOPE3 years ago (edited)

No, I meant workers are working to pay the debt of someone else. No their own.

fear of losing income by the community, fear of being labeled a traitor

That's what I think is happening. This group preys on people in desperate situations and naivety. I say that only based on observations. The management also plays mind games. Anyone on the outside is deemed dishonest. Several times now I've been told the only reason I earn is because I kissed someone's ass. Or I earn because of connections. Or because I'm rich. The reality is, you see those stupid posts I made? People liked those. I started with nothing. Always spoke my mind. I don't play this game where others are on a pedestal and I'm to believe I'm somehow lesser. You're either eye to eye with me or, there is no other option. I don't talk about life much in my posts but there was a time in my life where my only source of income was finding ways to hustle pocket change from passersby. But somehow, when I come to talk in front of this group, I'm labelled a villain by default. When you're on the outside, it's very easy to detect manipulative ways on the inside. That's why I think it acts like a cult. No cult member knows they're in a cult. Every cult member thinks they're nothing and can't succeed without the cult. And my personal conclusions have nothing to do with why PH gets downvoted. That's just how I feel and I'm not stupid. I had a hunch instantly, then looked for answers, and found them.

And to avoid it, stand up for yourselves. Watch how fast they leave you folks behind when it's no longer profitable for them to use you. They can just as easily earn fair curation reward like the rest of us. They don't deserve more than anyone else. We worked hard on Hive to create a more fair system. PH wants to be unfair, so they get downvoted. Simple.

You know who else used to go around demanding a percentage of business profits in a community? Mafia. Gangsters. And they said that was for a good cause, too. It was for 'protection'. You either pay them or they beat your ass.

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The reality is, you see those stupid posts I made? People liked those

But now how you have power is different, because people seek to get your vote and they find everything they do fun, being honest with you that is what happens. I hardly think that that happened to you when you had 200 HP or you weren't recognized in the community, and that is a problem to deal with, because many of the people who are in Hive only look at voting power and making profits, And I'm not saying that this is wrong, but there are also other things that are better, creating bonds, talking with interesting people as we are doing [I'm far from looking for a favor or vote from you, actually I'm very pleased to be able to speak with you about different things and about this problem.

But somehow, when I come to talk in front of this group, I'm labeled a villain by default.

That sucks and I understand how unpleasant that must make you feel. And I'm really sorry that you have to endure going through that. No one should put up with it and no one should have to be labeled a villain, or something similar, that's something that I despise a lot and don't like.

But I believe that I am the living example that not all are equal, maturity is demonstrated with facts just like you are doing and I truly congratulate you for that. You have to be very focused to be able to have an objective conversation with someone and maintain a pleasant atmosphere.

We worked hard on Hive to create a more fair system. PH wants to be unfair, so they get downvoted. Simple.

And I grant you the point, I understand perfectly. In that sense, I see that both parties have different points of view. And I am in the middle of both because my income depends on this, and it is a delicate situation for me. But I hope it will not be for long, and it will surely improve even if it is criticized or despised for what I say in these conversations. In this sense I share what you express, I am here for me, for my benefit because it is through my work and content that I earn a living. Otherwise, I was really screwed, and what I can say is that it has been a win to win situation and not a charity because I have made many publications in exchange for being able to pay my bills in a financially destroyed country, and with a personal financial situation disastrous.

Fortunately, I am already coming out of that, diversifying my income and I hope soon not to depend on a single source. So I no longer see myself involved in these dramas, which only bring toxicity and conflicts in my life, causing me to have to participate in something that I don't like! [Speaking of this type of conflict whereby saying something that is not well seen you can end up crucified and goodbye forever to your main source of income]

I appreciate the effort that you have made and that you do to keep things well at Hive, and I understand your views. I wish I wasn't in such a screwed-up situation to be able to better express my views, and you must imagine why, from the financial aspect, because if it weren't for that, I wouldn't mind expressing what I think. But it is not the case because I have to take care of what I do, although I would not be surprised at all if I ended up being labeled a villain or worse, and all simply for being true to what I think and having an opinion.

You either pay them or they beat your ass.

Sorry, but you made me laugh with this hahaha. And I mean it in a good way because that's how the mafias operate.

And the simple fish like me have to take care of ourselves, it is very sad, but until we grow up to a dolphin or a whale we have no other option.

But now how you have power is different, because people seek to get your vote

I apologize. That's where I stopped reading. My experience here was the same, regardless of how much was in the wallet. You've also insulted the integrity of all those who enjoy my work and choose to support it for whatever reason.

And that's it. Conversation over. Not interested in the rest.

Well my intention is not to offend you, but to speak to you from reality. A pity that you interpret it that way. But that is what happens, people approach those who have voting power because of their stake and their interest in obtaining profits, that is the reality and for the most part that is what happens.

If you went and said that to everyone who ever left a comment under my posts, you'd get shouted out of the room. If you really think those people are only there in order to get something out of me, maybe your head is screwed on, but it's backwards.

With that attitude of yours you hold so dear, you will always remain on the bottom. And it's your fault, because that's how your brain works. If all you think one has to do to get somewhere around here is kiss ass, that's why you can't get anywhere.

https://peakd.com/life/@nonameslefttouse/ass-kissing-brownnosers-are-useless

You're saying I must have kissed ass to get ahead. You're saying I want my ass kissed. I hate that shit. I'm not offended. You're just a lost cause. Kiss my ass, you get nothing. Insult me, you get nothing.

Now, take your bad attitude, and use it to get ripped off by PH.

Bye!

You're saying I must have kissed ass to get ahead. You're saying I want my ass kissed. I hate that shit.

That is your interpretation, but not what I have said.

Also, it is the reality, the users look for profits in these platforms [and also there is nothing wrong with wanting to win from those who have a big stake], a win to win relationship.
To think otherwise is to lie to yourself, so the one who has the problem is not me :]

Now, take your bad attitude, and use it to get ripped off by PH.

I will tell you that I don't really have it, but if I did, I would go on my own, without being asked.

We have different points of view, so there is no need to say more.

You can't speak on behalf of everyone. Only yourself. All you're saying is you're an ass kisser. That's it. You're revealing your one and only strategy, disguising it as advice, all while proof you're wrong is sitting right here, telling you you're being moronic. You started out sounding intelligent. Then you started reading off the PH bottom feeder be a loser forever and blame everyone else for your own misfortunes script. You literally pay your bosses just to kiss their ass. That's how far gone you are. And to top it off, you want people to feel sorry for you. Dude. I can't be around people like you. It's bad for the health.

I do wish you the best of the luck. You'll probably need more than luck though. Go kiss an ass. See if that helps.

I wish you the best too, and regarding kissing butts, I prefer those that are female and if they are Latin much better:]

And don't get sick, take care of your health!