That may be, in that case, let's have an alternative competing proposal to consider.
I don't consider a free for all with no one putting in the time to identify and push back on systematic extraction (even if necessarily imperfectly to some degree or another) to be an attractive alternative.
People not liking it and raising objections basically goes with the territory. Everyone wants free reign to grab their piece of the pie without pushback, some reasonable some not. Too bad, free reign is a disaster.
And let's be clear about one thing. Regardless of whether you happen to like how it is being handled now, the vast majority of the (small in any case) user base is not affected. People can and do post and comment on all sorts of reasonable things and never get any attention or notice from anti-abuse efforts. We hear from the complainers, not the majority who are unaffected (except in so far as they benefit because the reward pool is preserved for them to some extent, with rampant abuse it wouldn't be)
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There are good people in hive watchers from the ones ive met.
having said that, my initial experiences with them made me feel targeted and actually made me concerned that I was being targeted by a criminal group or harassment. At the end of the day they are people, and fallible. Always will be.
From my personal experience, it strongly made me consider leaving the entire hive ecosystem. The problem I think lies in that the hivewatchers are not HR reps trained to deal with all different types of people and the way that one person expresses something can be totally misinterpreted by various types.
Ive long thought on this, since this happened to me about a year ago.
An adjustment of some form to the system is needed. After brainstorming on this for a year, my best idea is crowdsourcing it.
IF any person flags a post as spam, plagiarism etc. they submit proof of their claim if plagiarism and use citations, or explain their case in the situation of spam or farming. Then let everyone on hive scroll through these situations on a kind of news reel feed, and optionally, give people who perform the service of verification some reward in hive or hbd, they will review the post that was flagged and the case of the reporter and vote thumbs up or thumbs down, if thumbs down on any case reach some threshhold, say 30%, the post has no reduction of rewards. If 70% thumbs up and agree with case of reporter, then all hive rewards from post are removed and vote power can or can not be returned to voters up to u.
Maybe limit accounts to 10 or 20 verifications a day, and 3 reports a day. you can reward a reporter at end if case gets thumbed up.
maybe some type of proof of humanity can help, id do this even for free and im not in hivewatchers, a captcha, idk up to u.
ill think more on it. \
best wishes, there MUST be a better way, systemically
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I can't see not having a searchable, collective memory of the 'naughty' accounts and the details of that determination being open for appraisal.
How can we track large fraud schemes without this kind of database?
I continue to support @logic and hw's until a viable alternative is in place.
That's largely my view without getting into the weeds of how it works since I don't follow the specifics in detail. If there is an alternative making a pitch, I'll consider supporting it instead, or in addition to let them run side by side for a while and compare performance. If the alternative is nothing, then I don't support that.
I recall @themarkymark had a competing idea at one point but was shut down because the stakeholders thought it too excessive for the number of active users and favored HW instead.
This is the problem. Nothing will change because people like Logic know he won't be booted. It's basically holding the chain hostage for their supposed "indispensability".
There were days when HW had to pause operations due to "funding" and the chain didn't implode.