My mom always used to say "if you just take and take, without ever putting anything back, one day there will be nothing left to take". She used to say this to us, to prepare us for the big life that was expecting us, as adults. She had many sayings like this and even though it wasn't yesterday, I still remember many of them and I'm thankful to her.
PeakD has an amazing feature which is the notification and reminder of new proposals, so you can take action. This week such a notification popped up on my screen about a new proposal, so I went to check it out as knew nothing about the proposal owner. Since then, both the post and the proposal were deleted and removed, so don't go look for it, but I'll tell you briefly what it was about.
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Someone who allegedly has been doing some dev works for Hive, which is amazing (he got paid for it by the way), thought asking for $2k funding from DHF, to buy a laptop was a good idea. The funny thing is, the user has been on Hive for 9 years and the proposal was written to make you understand no laptop, no work. Kind of like a blackmail to me and not only to me.
Living off Hive is not new, so many have been and are sill doing it. Over the years I've seen so many users from countries where a few dollars can buy quite a lot, think they can get rich by blogging. Those dreams are long gone as reality has kicked in and when the price of a toke goes from $3.4 to $0.06, you need to wake up and realize you won't be a millionaire this way, especially if you follow the path of this person.
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Some of them think using some shortcuts could help you achieve more and this is when you see them posting about their life problems, like grandma needs new glasses, so funds needed is $100. Next time mom got her documents stolen, funds needed is $50 and so on. All this while they post about boat trips and eating sushi in a country where you don't even have the basics, inflation is sky rocketing and electricity is rare like a white crow.
Everyone is given the same chance on Hive. Free account, no investment asked and you can grow your account if you're serious about it, like so many here have been doing. Don't get me wrong, this guy did everything he could, I have to give him that. He was caught plagiarizing, then he was part of the Vibe scandal, then he posted a bunch of test comments, which would not be a problem as one has to test the app they are working on, but he thought why not upvote these spam comments and make some money. Then came the laptop proposal.
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The funny thing is, that it's possible to get a laptop funded on Hive, it's not unprecedented, we had a case, but a very different one. A few years ago the community came together to help someone who lost everything, was on the streets with no money, no food, no shelter and no hope to even get a roof over their head for the night. It's possible, but not for everyone. This is a good community with a lot of good people, who are ready to help, if you deserve it.
It seems like the DHF has become (or has been, to be precise) the milking cow for so many and even though the community has voiced its opinion against it, the process of changing how things are done is slow (I'm trying to choose my words elegantly here). We've been throwing money out of the window for years, by funding projects that are pure waste of money. Accountability seems to be a word in the dictionary and nothing more. In any normal company these project managers would not only have been fired but sued as well for damages, but that's a story for another day.
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This "grab what you can an run" mentality can only take you so far and too bad people don't see or don't want to see the meaning of building. You have the chance to treat your Hive account as a saving account, grow it to have when the time comes, but it's easier to just walk the selfish path and help no one but yourself.
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I've seen that proposal too, honestly what that proposal tempted me is to downvote all his posts but he ain't much active anyways... That was an obvious milk cowing, what's next step, pay the food for all devs otherwise they starve to death and can't code? Everyone is spamming proposals to grab what they can
His post got downvoted, no no worries. Unfortunately some people are not thinking straight and think everyone is stupid. Just because there's a DHF, that should be spent on projects that can support Hive in growing, they confusing it with charity. Enough is enough.
It is a very true saying as you cannot expect to take without ever putting back or there will be nothing left. I saw that proposal and had to comment because this is not a charity.
No, it should not be a charity, but many are treating it as such.
Here here.. great post, appreciate providing the visibility for this scenario, I'm sure to many, myself included that the DHF is a blackbox at best :)
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Well, there has been a lot of bad decision made over the years, but to see such a proposal ... that's the next level.
You are absolutely right, Erikah. Hive is an incredible opportunity to grow if one is responsible and consistent.
It is indeed, but for that you have to appreciate the opportunity of growing, more than the opportunity of just taking. It's a responsibility many don't understand.
I totally agree with you. I saw that and it seemed hilarious to me.
Rather sad I'd say, if you think how many like that are here on Hive.
I don't like beggars and never give them anything. The more they ask, the less likely I am to give. People are in difficult situations, but your help won't help them; it's usually a scam.
I don't like beggars either. I was raised not to complain and I'm mentioning my mom again, but she always said, those who are complaining about not having much deserve to be taken from. Sounds cruel, but it's true as they can't appreciate what they have.
We're somewhat similar. That's probably why we often chat online =)
You might be right about that 😜
However, I chat with a lot of people here on Hive, very different people and we sometimes fight 😂
Is it so hot in Russia?
Swearing isn't a good idea – although sometimes you just want to let off some steam!
Today it was +24, and in four days it will be +6 = very cheerful weather!
Nooo, figting is not swearing. Translator must have gotten it wrong. I neant fighting with words.
I seen the proposal pop up on PeakD. I didn't even bother clicking on it or checking it out. THe title is all I needed to see.
I wanted to see the details and see how much support it gets.
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Oh yeah I saw that begging letter for a lap top and thought WTF! Am I now waking up to some of these DHF requests for funding are not adding value to the Hive but just a scam for easy money?
Unfortunately some of the projects bring no value and are still continued. Like pouring water into a hole with no end.
spot on. TBH, until I started to understand the Hive I was clueless and didn't realise just blindly supporting proposals is not really the best policy. now I rarely support any.
The big problem is these events, the rally car, stupidly funding 10k boreholes hoping they bring users on hive in a country where electricity is a rarity, paying $8k for bracelets in Venezuela and so on. This has to stop.
That's an eye opener! Did not know about that stupidity
I am unaware of this person. My impression of the DHF is that it is useless for small projects or for recouping costs of donated work. And, unless someone is financially able to donate their time, simply charging for costs makes no sense. I was frankly shocked when I read a post that put developers in a bad light as taking advantage of the financed visionaries. Is this the dominant culture here?
Developers find themselves having coded themselves out of work. When I first took off coding, it was in response to being given administrative tasks. I multiplied the effort of the users, and I viewed my job as to make my job obsolete: you code solutions to repetitive work; you don't code lock-in and dependency.
Development became commoditized and automated in its own right, and now we find ourselves in a conundrum where our past accomplishments do not earn royalties and the need for our skillset as a commodity is diminished.
I'm afraid I can't answer your questions.
I think there is more going on on Hive where people are even using Hive as their employer. There is even a Hive core dev and high up witnesses asking for 108k HBD...
Laptop is cheap compared to that...
I was flabberghasted when I read that proposal, but to be totally honest, I was not shocked in the slightest.
Just look at the DHF, the amount of HBD that is given away on a daily basis is absolutely mindboggling.
As a Projects Manager the lack of project controls and accountability is truly mindboggling, it really is no wonder that HIVE token just keeps sliding, out of the top 1000 next with the amount of HIVE that the DHF takers take ... I am sorry but I pretty much only vote the return proposal until there is some proper accountability and use of funds going on.