[EN/ES] El flojo y la bestia | The lazy man and the beast

in Hive Book Club5 years ago (edited)

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Empezar aclarando el titulo del presente Post me parece bastante adecuado en esta ocacion, si bien es una referencia clara y directa al famoso cuento de "La Bella y la Bestia", no vamos a tocar ni por asomo esa historia, el titulo se refiere mas concretamente a mi ambito personal, yo soy bastante flojo a la hora de leer tengo que admitirlo, he leido pocos libros en mi vida y la gran mayoria han sido libros didacticos, en cierta manera relacionados con temas que me interesaron en ese momento o lapso de tiempo.

To begin by clarifying the title of this Post seems quite appropriate on this occasion, although it is a clear and direct reference to the famous story of "Beauty and the Beast", we are not going to touch that story, the title refers more Specifically to my personal sphere, I am quite lazy when it comes to reading, I have to admit it, I have read few books in my life and the vast majority have been didactic books, in a certain way related to topics that interested me at that time or period of time. weather.

Por otro lado, mi compañera de aventura es una gran lectora y siente pasion por las tramas y mucho amor por los libros en fisico, lo cual desde mi humilde ignorancia, es una de las señales mas claras de que alguien de verdad ama la literatura y la escritura en general, somos algo curistas y respetamos mucho el trabajo que conlleva la creacion de un libro fisico, valoramos el olor de las paginas y la calidad de la tinta utilizada pa ilustrar una hermosa portada.

On the other hand, my adventure companion is a great reader and has a passion for plots and a lot of love for physical books, which from my humble ignorance is one of the clearest signs that someone really loves literature and writing in general, we are somewhat curistas and we respect the work involved in creating a physical book, we value the smell of the pages and the quality of the ink used to illustrate a beautiful cover.

Entonces en el siguiente Post van a estar viendo dos puntos de vista completamente distintos respecto a la lectura, El mio, completamente ignorante de cierta manera, que valora el aprendizaje tecnico y practico que puede insentivar un libro. Y el de ella, enfocado de manera mucho mas culta y pasional en lo que a lectura se trata, lo cual no le quita importancia, lo aclaro desde ya, no intentamos dividir las aguas, simplemente leer los generos que al otro le interesa no nos resulta atractivo, dicho eso, nos gusta compartirnos ideas y relatarnos mutuamente nuestras lecturas y disfrutamos mucho de ello.

So in the next Post you will be seeing two completely different points of view regarding reading, Mine, completely ignorant in a certain way, who values ​​the technical and practical learning that a book can instill. And hers, focused in a much more cultured and passionate way when it comes to reading, which does not diminish its importance, I clarify it from now on, we do not try to divide the waters, simply reading the genres that the other is interested in are not It is attractive, that said, we like to share ideas and relate our readings to each other and we really enjoy it.

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Este es mi Libro favorito y uno de los que he leido mas rapido, si bien me suelo tardar semanas para leer un libro y en muchas ocaciones los abandono a la mitad, este me atrapó desde el inicio y me generaba esa sed de saber que ocurriria mas adelante, se llama "Padre rico, Padre pobre" y cuenta la historia de Robert Kiyosaki que es ni mas ni menos que el Co-escritor, asi que se podria decir en cierta forma que es un libro autobiografico aunque no por ello menos interesante.

This is my favorite book and one of the ones that I have read the fastest, although it usually takes me weeks to read a book and on many occasions I abandon them in the middle, it caught me from the beginning and generated that thirst to know what would happen later, it is called "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" and tells the story of Robert Kiyosaki who is neither more nor less than the Co-writer, so it could be said in a certain way that it is an autobiographical book although no less interesting .

Fue una lectura que creó un cambio total en mi vida, porque si bien sigo siendo la misma persona que era antes de leerlo, ahora tengo una vision y un entendimiento de la sociedad completamente diferente, el libro muestra a un Robert siendo niño en Hawaii, donde se desarolla la historia, el libro inicia relatando que el pequeño Robert vivia con sus padres y que su padre era un señor muy educado y agraciado al poseer diversidad de titulos academicos, pero que no contaba con una educacion financiera, entonces vivia ahogado en deudas a pesar de tener buen sueldo y tener todo ese conocimiento, Robert lo llamó "Padre pobre".

It was a reading that created a total change in my life, because although I am still the same person I was before reading it, now I have a completely different vision and understanding of society, the book shows a Robert as a child in Hawaii, where the story unfolds, the book begins by relating that little Robert lived with his parents and that his father was a very educated and graceful man, possessing a variety of academic titles, but he did not have a financial education, so he lived drowned in debt Despite having a good salary and having all that knowledge, Robert called him "Poor Dad."

Por otro lado, cuenta que Robert tenia un amigo con un padre que era todo lo contrario al suyo, no poseia titulos universitarios, no tenia unos ingresos altos y tampoco tenian los bienes materiales para vivir comodamente, contrario a eso parecia ser bastante pobre, dicho eso, a medida que se va desarollando la historia Robert empieza a relatar como fué notando que el padre de su amigo a pesar de no poseer grandes recursos, siempre estaba bastante relajado y no parecia estresarse muy a menudo como lo hacia su padre biologico, poco a poco Robert va aprendiendo del padre de su amigo y adentrandoce al mundo de la educacion financiera, al padre de su amigo Robert lo llamó "Padre rico".

On the other hand, he says that Robert had a friend with a father who was the complete opposite of his, did not have university degrees, did not have a high income and did not have the material goods to live comfortably, contrary to that he seemed to be quite poor, said That, as the story unfolds, Robert begins to relate how he noticed that the father of his friend, despite not having great resources, was always quite relaxed and did not seem to stress very often as his biological father did, little Little by little Robert was learning from his friend's father and entering the world of financial education. He called the father of his friend Robert "Rich Dad".

De ahi en adelante tengo que admitir que mi mentalidad dió un giro muy brusco, empecé a investigar mucho mas al respecto y descubrí que no existia solo ese libro, sino que existe una coleccion entera de esa misma serie, donde hablan sobre ventas, otra cosa que me voló la cabeza fué leer respecto a que todos debemos aprender a vender, porque vender significaba vender ideas y no productos, por ejemplo, para ponerlos un poco en contexto, lo que yo estoy haciendo en este momento al comentarles sobre el libro que me gusta e intentando que deseen leerlo, es una Venta.

From then on I have to admit that my mentality took a very abrupt turn, I began to investigate much more about it and I discovered that there was not only that book, but that there is a whole collection of that same series, where they talk about sales, something else What blew my mind was reading that we should all learn to sell, because selling meant selling ideas and not products, for example, to put them in context a bit, what I am doing at this moment by commenting on the book that I like it and trying to make them want to read it, it is a Sale.

Para dar honor a mi parte del titulo, estaria muy contento si saliera alguna pelicula basada en este libro, no tanto por mi, sino que creo que es un conocimiento que todos deberiamos poseer o al menos tener la oportunidad de conocer, aunque tambien tengo que admitir que preferí escuchar la charla completa sobre estas ediciones, están publicadas en Youtube tanto en ingles como en español, no colocaré los enlaces porque creo que seria imcumplir implicitamente las reglas, Pero me gustaria aclarar, que las charlas que menciono están realizadas por el mismo Robert Kiyosaki en su version en ingles y por Marco Antonio Rengil en su version en español, ambas están autorizadas logicamente por Robert y no comprenden ningun tipo de spoiler, simplemente utilizan la charla como un recurso de marketing.

To honor my part of the title, I would be very happy if a movie based on this book came out, not so much for me, but I believe that it is knowledge that we all should have or at least have the opportunity to know, although I also have to admit that I preferred to listen to the full talk about these issues, they are published on YouTube in both English and Spanish, I will not place the links because I think it would implicitly breach the rules, But I would like to clarify that the talks that I mention are made by the same Robert Kiyosaki in its English version and by Marco Antonio Rengil in its Spanish version, both are logically authorized by Robert and do not understand any type of spoiler, they simply use the talk as a marketing resource.

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Mi compañera a su vez, tiene 3 libros favoritos de 3 autores diferentes, voy a intentar transmitirles a ustedes de la manera mas correcta lo que ella me transmitió a mi, como siempre, le hago saber que voy a escribir un Post y que deseo utilizarla de inspiracion y apoyo, que me gustaria que leyera mi borrador, me lo corrigiera y me aportara sus ideas, para mi sorpresa le encantó la idea y descubrí un lado de ella que aun no conocia, al no ser yo un lector muy culto, pues nunca se habia dado el tema de conversacion, dicho eso, ella empieza a relatarme sobre sus libros favoritos y les añade anecdotas personales en las cuales me gustaria apoyarme para comentar cada una de sus 3 elecciones.

My partner, in turn, has 3 favorite books by 3 different authors, I will try to convey to you in the most correct way what she transmitted to me, as always, I let her know that I am going to write a Post and that I want to use it of inspiration and support, I would like you to read my draft, correct it and give me your ideas, to my surprise he loved the idea and I discovered a side of it that I did not know yet, as I am not a very cultured reader, well The topic of conversation had never been given, that said, she begins to tell me about her favorite books and adds personal anecdotes in which I would like to support myself to comment on each of her 3 choices.

NUMERO UNO - NUMBER ONE

El primero en comentarme se llama "Finale" y pertenece a la serie literaria llamada "Hush, Hush" escrito por Becca Fitzpatrick, me cuenta que es una historia de amor maravillosa relacionada con un angel caido y una estudiante de modelaje llamada Nora, personaje del cual se narra gran parte, sino es que toda la historia desde su perpectiva. En la historia o la trama como tal se suelen tocar temas bastante interesantes sobre pureza sanguinea y ciertas cosas que en lo personal y me recordó en cierto motodo a Harry Potter, por muy tonta que suene la comparacion.

The first to comment is called "Finale" and it belongs to the literary series called "Hush, Hush" written by Becca Fitzpatrick, she tells me that it is a wonderful love story related to a fallen angel and a modeling student named Nora, a character from the which is told a large part, if not the whole story from its perspective. In the story or the plot as such, quite interesting topics are usually touched on blood purity and certain things that personally and reminded me in a certain way of Harry Potter, no matter how silly the comparison sounds.

La anecdota relacionada y a lo que realmente le doy gran valor, es que ella llegó a conocer ese libro por algo que siempre me ha parecido bastante admirable entre la comunidad de lectores y es el hecho de intercambiarse o prestarse libros entre si. Me cuenta que en su colegio, su grupo de amigas compartian el gusto por la lectura y que una de sus amigas le prestó la primera edicion de Hush, Hush, ella lo lee y se queda fascinada con la trama, a lo que su amiga le presta la demas ediciones, es tanto el interes que le puso a la trama que hasta su mamá lo leyó, debido a que la veia llegar del colegio, apresurada por comer y hacer sus tareas paras sentarse a leer su novela.

The related anecdote and what I really value is that she got to know that book because of something that I have always found quite admirable among the community of readers and that is the fact of exchanging or lending books to each other. She tells me that at her school, her group of friends shared a taste for reading and that one of her friends lent her the first edition of Hush, Hush, she reads it and is fascinated by the plot, to which her friend loves it. lends the other editions, the interest she put in the plot is so much that even her mother read it, because she saw her come home from school, hurried to eat and do her homework to sit down to read her novel.

Luego de unas semanas su mamá, tambien enamorada de la trama, compra y le regala la ultima edicion que su compañera de clases no tenia, entonces si bien obviamente habia leido muchos libros antes, "Finale" se vuelve un tesoro, porque es su primer libro fisico del que puede decir que es de su propiedad desde nuevo, asi que logro imaginar la emocion que sintió al sacarlo de su empaque y oler las paginas por primera vez. Eso me resultó bastante interesante y repito, algo que me parece admirable y digno de reconocer es el hecho de que en la comunidad de lectores se intercambien los libros fisicos, que se quiera admitir o no, estas confiando algo a alguien que no solo es valioso emocionalmente, sino que posee un gran valor economico, asi que eso es algo que me gustaria reconocer y recalcar, ya que no todos tienen ese nivel de amor al arte como para poner en peligro algo que creen valioso solo para que la otra persona pueda disfrutarlo.

After a few weeks her mother, also in love with the plot, buys and gives her the latest edition that her classmate did not have, so although she had obviously read many books before, "Finale" becomes a treasure, because it is her first A physical book that you can say is your property since new, so I can imagine the excitement you felt when you took it out of its packaging and smelt the pages for the first time. That was quite interesting to me and I repeat, something that I find admirable and worthy of recognition is the fact that physical books are exchanged in the community of readers, whether you want to admit it or not, you are entrusting something to someone that is not only valuable emotionally, but it has great economic value, so that is something that I would like to recognize and emphasize, since not everyone has that level of love for art as to endanger something that they believe is valuable just so that the other person can enjoy it .

NUMERO DOS - NUMBER TWO

El segundo libro del cual me habló fué "El Ladron de Cuerpos" escrito por Anne Rice. De este en particular no quise investigar mucho al momento de buscar informacion para redactar este post, porque me resultó tan interesante la premisa que deseo leerlo y no me gustaria saber mas de lo que necesito, si bien yo no soy amante de las historias de vampiros, acabo de notar que yo poseo un libro de esta saga y de la misma escritora llamado "Victorio el vampiro" y me gustó mucho leerlo, ella me cuenta que la trama trata sobre un vampiro que empieza a sentir agobio debido a su inmortalidad y de una u otra forma que no voy a decir, pero que Wikipedia explica bien en la sinopsis, posee un cuerpo mortal, poco a poco debe ir adaptandose nuevamente a sentir hambre, cansancio, sed, a caminar y sentir dolor e incluso a trabajar para ganar dinero para sustentarse y eventualmente debe emprender cierto viaje, por cierta razon para recuperar su cuerpo vampirico..

The second book he told me about was "The Body Thief" written by Anne Rice. I didn't want to do much research on this one in particular when looking for information to write this post, because the premise that I wanted to read was so interesting to me and I would not like to know more than I need, although I am not a lover of vampire stories , I just noticed that I have a book in this saga and by the same writer called "Victorio the vampire" and I really liked reading it, she tells me that the plot is about a vampire who begins to feel overwhelmed due to his immortality and one way or another that I am not going to say, but that Wikipedia explains well in the synopsis, he has a mortal body, little by little he must adapt again to feeling hungry, tired, thirsty, walking and feeling pain and even working to win money to support himself and eventually must go on a certain journey, for a reason to regain his vampire body ..

La anecdota aca fué muy simple, pero que refleja la realidad de muchos lectores, ella me cuenta que su mamá nuevamente decide comprar un libro, esta vez para su cumpleaños y que le cuenta que al momento de comprarlo habia una chica que lo toma del estante, desea comprarlo y luego fijamente se queda mirando el precio y lo vuelve a colocar en el estante, obviamente esa persona no contaba con los recursos necesarios para comprar ese libro, me cuenta a su vez, que no era un libro extremadamente costoso, pero que pensandolo desde el punto de vista racional, significaba sacrificar otro articulo de la lista de necesidades, esto me dá la oportunidad de nuevo, para recalcar los grandes valores de la comunidad de lectores, que deciden prestar o inluso regalar sus propios libros. Con honestida y desde mi mas profunda ignorancia, mis respetos.

The anecdote here was very simple, but it reflects the reality of many readers, she tells me that her mother again decides to buy a book, this time for her birthday and that she tells her that when she bought it there was a girl who took it from the shelf , he wants to buy it and then he stares at the price and puts it back on the shelf, obviously that person did not have the necessary resources to buy that book, he tells me in turn, that it was not an extremely expensive book, but that Thinking about it from a rational point of view, it meant sacrificing another item from the list of needs, this gives me the opportunity again, to emphasize the great values ​​of the community of readers, who decide to lend or even give away their own books. With honesty and from my deepest ignorance, my respects.

NUMERO TRES - NUMBER THREE

El ultimo libro es bastante clasico y conocido para la gran mayoria de lectores, creo que todos sabemos quien es Paulo Coelho, en este caso hablamos de "El Alquimista", Habla sobre un joven que deja todo lo que estaba haciendo con su vida para emprender un viaje a egipto en busqueda de un gran tesoro en las piramides, a lo largo del viaje se vá reuniendo con distintos personajes que van poco a poco llenando la historia de mucho matiz, mucha variedad y muchos puntos de vista contados desde un solo enfoque, una historia digna de leer de la mano del gran Coelho.

The last book is quite classic and known to the vast majority of readers, I think we all know who Paulo Coelho is, in this case we are talking about "The Alchemist", It talks about a young man who leaves everything he was doing with his life to undertake a trip to egypt in search of a great treasure in the pyramids, throughout the trip he meets with different characters that gradually fill the story with a lot of nuance, a lot of variety and many points of view told from a single approach, a story worth reading from the hand of the great Coelho.

A este punto, mi mente floja ya estaba perdida, pensando si habia relacion entre esa iconica historia y el iconico anime "Fullmetal Alchemist", ella rapidamente notó que mi mente estaba perdida y empezó a contarme que su amor por la lectura empezó al ver la coleccion de su madre, que poseia al menos 7 libros de Coelho y que le a pesar de no hacerlo muy a menudo, solia leerlos, luego me comentó una cosa que tambien llamó mi atencion y es que en las escuelas muy a menudo se suele dar como tarea leer ciertos libros, pero generalmete todos pertenecientes a una sola editorial o libros especificos y que estaria interesante que en todas y que no solo en la minoria, se empezaran a abrir las puertas para que en vez de encajonar los generos literarios de cierta manera, pues se les diera la oportunidad a los estudiantes de estudiar y formar parte de la clase cualquier libro que les resulte interesante, independientemente del genero que sea o si la historia es o no politicamente correcta segun los estandares educativos.

At this point, my lazy mind was already lost, wondering if there was a relationship between that iconic story and the iconic anime "Fullmetal Alchemist", she quickly noticed that my mind was lost and began to tell me that her love for reading began when I saw the collection of his mother, who had at least 7 books by Coelho and who, despite not doing it very often, used to read them, then he told me something that also caught my attention and that is that in schools it is very often given As a task to read certain books, but generally all belonging to a single publisher or specific books and that it would be interesting that in all and not only in the minority, the doors would begin to open so that instead of boxing the literary genres in a certain way , as students would be given the opportunity to study and be part of the class any book that is interesting to them, regardless of the genre or whether or not the story is politically correct according to the educational standards.

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Al final, ambos enfoques llegan a dos conclusiones fundamentales, leer un libro independientemente del genero del que se trate genera mas preguntas que respuestas y el verdadero valor que posee el lector, es la capacidad de responder dichas preguntas, pongo dos claros ejemplos, en mi caso a pesar de ser un flojo de la lectura, leer algun libro o enciclopedia me abre un universo de posibilidades para seguir desarollando mi conocimiento de manera autodidactica, mas concretamente, empiezo leyendo un libro con una simple historia autobiografica y termino leyendo 5 libros relacioados con finanzas, ventas y marketing, sin mencionar las incontables horas de videos y audios al respecto, que a su vez generaron mas preguntas.

In the end, both approaches reach two fundamental conclusions, reading a book regardless of the genre in question generates more questions than answers and the true value that the reader possesses is the ability to answer these questions, I put two clear examples, in my In spite of being lazy at reading, reading a book or encyclopedia opens up a universe of possibilities for me to continue developing my knowledge in a self-taught way, more specifically, I start reading a book with a simple autobiographical story and I end up reading 5 books related to finance, sales and marketing, not to mention the countless hours of videos and audios on it, which once raised more questions.

En el caso de mi compañera de aventura, a pesar de que sus lecturas no tienen un ambito tecnico, tambien genera sed de conocimiento, ella al leer sobre un viaje a las piramides de egipto, se encontró con nombres de pequeños pueblos y comunidades, los cuales investigó y asoció con su lectura y asi sin notarlo y sin representar ningun esfuerzo considerable se generó un conocimiento bastante extenso sobre geografia de medio oriente, eso sin mencionar que si logró extrapolar la pequeña historia de la chica que no pudo comprar el libro de Anne Rice por razones economicas, seguramente generó la pregunta que mueve al mundo "¿Por que?" y empezó a cuestionarse cosas sobre la sociedad en la que vive.

In the case of my adventure companion, although her readings do not have a technical scope, she also generates a thirst for knowledge, when reading about a trip to the pyramids of Egypt, she found names of small towns and communities, the which he investigated and associated with his reading and thus without noticing it and without representing any considerable effort, a fairly extensive knowledge was generated about the geography of the Middle East, not to mention that he managed to extrapolate the little story of the girl who could not buy Anne's book Rice for economic reasons, surely generated the question that moves the world "Why?" and he began to question things about the society in which he lives.

Muy en resumen y para concluir, Da igual el genero que leas, si genera preguntas que responder y tienes la capacidad de buscarle respuestas, es buena lectura. Gracias por leer nuestro Post.

Very in summary and to conclude, No matter what genre you read, if it generates questions to answer and you have the ability to find answers, it is a good read. Thanks for reading our Post.

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Qué interesante que hayas compartido el libro de Padre Rico, Padre Pobre, sin duda es un libro que te ayuda mucho a sentir interés por aprender sobre tus finanzas, recuerdo que cuando lo leí me sentía mal porque no sé qué había estado haciendo todos esos años sin reunir para la inversión del proyecto que tengo planeado a futuro jajaja de todos modos ya me calmé un poco. Y con respecto al alquimista, intenté leer ese y dos libros más de Coelho y solo me gustó uno, así que no llegué ni a la mitad del alquimista, al final sí tiene algún tipo de parecido con Full Metal Alchemist? jajajajaja

Si, tiene similitudes y aunque aun no termino el libro porque de verdad que no soy mucho de leer, llegamos a un acuerdo, yo me leo el libro y ella mirará la serie conmigo, asi que me ando esforzando por no dejarlo a la pagina 46 jajajjaa

What blew my mind was reading that we should all learn to sell, because selling meant selling ideas and not products,

damn that blew my mind as well. That book or series of book looks awesome. i don't know whether i read it though, i don't tend to read a lot of books as well :P I prefer to watch movies and series :P

Well, let's hope some billionaire read this and decide to make a movie, while we continue watching videos and playing "cash flow" hahaha

hahaha he should give us something though, for the idea

Well, let's hope some billionaire read this and decide to make a movie, while we continue watching videos and playing "cash flow" hahaha

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Excelente tu post, me gustó la forma en la que abordaste el tema de manera tan creativa.

El Alquimista es uno de mis libros favoritos 🤗

Saludos

Me alegra que te haga gustado, a mi en lo personal me encantó El ladron de cuerpos, me parece una historia super llena de cultura, digna de Anne Rice la verdad. Aun yo, que no me gusta leer mucho y que las historias de vampiros no me parecen atractivas, puedo afirmar con total seguridad que Anne Rice es una de las mejores autoras de libros de ese tipo y vale la pena leer alguno :)

Lo voy a buscar para leer, es una de las autoras que tengo pendiente por leer desde hace tiempo y me la han recomendado muchas veces.

Gracias por la recomendación 🤗