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RE: 20th March 2025 - Ain't Goin' Out Like A Punk Never

in Threespeak3 months ago

Hey Manclar

I bow to your sharing of your story. I have always held the view that those with your condition, as well as Autism, are all superhumans. You guys are superhuman in other ways and it puts me to shame.

Though i was born in a so called 1st world country, the living value here is....dreadful. Sure we may have all the material things, but the soul is lost here and the people are hollow. There is no...soul here...everything is a transaction, every dialogue, perhaps every friendship here can be seen as transactional...

I have heard of hivers in Venezuela using hive to earn income and feed their families? Or at least purchase groceries?

My heart goes out to your hard situation. We here in the first world countries are soft and at first sight of tension or obstructions/hardship, we run around like idiots.

I have made many friends over my 4 years on hive, and @valued-customer is one of them who i place in high esteem. He is like a uncle to me. But it is true that i have not yet achieved the impact i hoped for all these 4 short years. People are just not ready to give up their chains here...they have lived in their bubbles for way too long to the point where...and these people know this: cognitive dissonance. They know it's wrong but they continue living so.

My roots are from Hong Kong. I often keep up with the news there and right now what i experienced 20 years ago in HK and China (the one ID card linking to bank account, social security, everything; using personalized top up cards like Octopus card here in England, no need for cash, can use it to buy food, pay bills, it's like a bank card basically; facial recognition, all the sorts) is slowly coming over to the west. Right now Hong Kong's dire situation (excluding the tarrif wars, HK's unemployment rate high, their public/private health care prices extremely high, lots of industries closing down, overflooding of mainland Chinese, Heng Seng figures dropping like no tomorrow) has left the people there suddenly without a safety net. For at least 30 years they have enjoyed a luxurious life, enjoying their time in the rat race, and not developing a single mote of self-sufficiency.

I bring this up because this mirrors the state of affairs we see everywhere in the 1st and 2nd world countries. At least over your sides, the people still maintain a semblance of ability to live and thrive with nature. So all is not lost.

Over here, because they use soft-martial law tactics to grind people into submission, that is using the corrupt police, courts and various other systems such as weaponizing education, healthcare, even religion to grind people into submission. In this environment playing the "get out the system" card may have a chance, as the danger is not yet before us.

But in your side of the world it's different. The Enemy there is different. They care not one bit for even the false corrupt Vatican system. I've traveled a bit to South America myself (1 month in Argentina) and it's a total different ball game there. People need the system there, because the people are utterly on their last two legs (do we have more than we legs???).

So the better thing to do is to forgo the journey of getting out the system for now...better to fortify as best you can. That's what i would do. I am trying to position myself away from the cities, get back to my old nomadic roots, and live my life as a volunteer working on self-sufficient co-op projects with like minded people as i once did in my 20s.

We can only work with what we got you know?

PS - Not sure if you are interested, but i am also on the blurt blockchain (a fork of the Steemit blockchain i think). I'm there because they are relatively small compared to Hive, not so saturated and they have no downvote button, so people's hard earnt rewards cannot be taken away. Blurt is not perfect, as there has been internal....how should i put it...change in philosophy and principles, but so far everyone over there are people who use hive, who are sick of the subtle use of the downvote button as a tool for soft-censorship. So if you are looking to be able to write blogs in peace as well as earn without fear, i recommend you also get on blurt.

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I read this exchange, as you both intended, with great interest, as it is from intelligent people in circumstances, at stages in life, and with skills, interests, and abilities different than my own. While I remember seeing this video I didn't comment then, but I will now.

It is jam-packed with evidence of powers seeking to farm chattel. Certainly that is something we all face, wherever we are. Normies grasp this reality viscerally and seek to rise to become one of the wranglers that profit from the herds, but generally don't have the intellectual capacity to fully realize consciously and well consider how to actually do that. So they instead reckon the feeding trough and corral fences unavoidably apparent to them and work with those, exactly as the wranglers need to herd to do.

We three see past the corral fences. Before I discuss what is beyond the fences I will make some other observations. We are also in very distinct circumstances. Manclar is not able to roam. He has been pretty much stuck in his location of residence for a variety of reasons, health, the political oppression, and the economic circumstances of that location. BraveSmoke is younger than either of us, has yet to learn grim realities of personal lapse of powers and abilities that necessarily arise, as he is at the peak of his life. I am old, in the first world, and past the roaming phase. I have the advantages of economic circumstances and, while I am disabled by physical injuries, have managed to rise above pain to continue physical work that most people do not. Most people see the corral fences, such as money, and are content with them. I do not want money.

The wranglers power is money. When we build money, we build the fences. The wranglers can do what they want with the fences, and cattle can do nothing about that. I have been robbed of everything that most people consider 'rock solid' investments, because the fences can simply be moved by wranglers. A lawyer at the time told me that he would be happy to do battle with Citi, the largest financial corporation in the world, and if I wanted to hire him to do that he would need $5k up front as a retainer, and that much every year for the next ~10 years to endure the huge legal team that Citi would pose against me/him to throw paper at the court(s) while they delayed resolving the case as long as possible because I would eventually die, and Citi never would.

This is when I realized that institutions, inhuman and inhumane, are the antichrist, and people, society, are the christ.

Anyway, I do not advocate living by money. Money has not always existed. It is not necessary for life to exist. People make wealth, and that is what we need to live. Manclar is limited in his ability to create wealth by physical limitations on him, and not only his physical body, but his 3rd world polity imposes them as well. BraveSmoke has been footloose, and has not lit in a place outside of cities yet where wealth can be created instead of money. It is possible in cities to create wealth through networks of people, but food is practically impossible to create in cities, and a less urban place is almost necessary to attain to food without money, unless you give up on avoiding seed oils and similar additives commonly in restaurant food. I spent yesterday on a ladder in such a tight space that I literally had to raise myself on the ladder by pullups, because I couldn't bend my legs. I also live in a little village where many, many people have extensive gardens and grow food. Here people also have money so I can negotiate them paying money for things I need so I do not have to use my own money, and I can very (relatively) easily eschew accumulating piles of money.

Our different approaches to life, derivative of our differing circumstances and life stages, are extremely informative of consideration. It is necessary if we are to have liberty in any circumstances or stage of life to understand our corral, and the fact of wranglers and chattel. I will finish re-watching the video and give consideration to these things with these facts in mind.

@valued-customer an Excellent excellent follow up.

We can only use the resources that we have, with the circumstance we find ourselves, and to work from there. The main take away is to return to a life free from reliance on monetary transactions in order to survive. A network of people as we were built for, being social creatures and beyond genetics, we have a life force that urges us to unite together.

The power will always be with the people, we have lost confidence in how to be people and live together. Stripped of our skills, our ability to adapt, the courage to create and the grit to bear life in all it's totality.

In the cities it's impossible to create a network powered by people who understand wealth. Wealth in the city may differ from wealth outside the city, but they share a similarity and that is...they can both be created with two hands and a dream in the heart.

I have not told anyone this, but during my very early 20s, perhaps when i just turned 23, i found myself on my first ever solo volunteer sting on a permaculture farm in East Belgium, Zottegem.

It was a farm ran by a family...i still remember their names...Ino the Wife, Dirk the strong man of the house, Hazel of 7 years old, and her sister...her name began with S...a young girl of about 9 years old.

I rocked into Belgium via a flight, and back then in my 20s i used to only wear Oxford Shirts (midnight navy, or black, never any other colour, only in varying shades), dress trousers, slip on Monk Strap shoes (dark brown or black), and i used to rock this awesome pair of Raybans tailored to my eyes. Everything was expensive and tailored.

Taking a buss from the main terminal station, where Eurobus and Flixbus, as well as regional train services to and out of the country, i ended up deep into the countryside...it was like the ending scene of Shawshank Redemption when Red was finally free...and he followed Andy's letter to the location....it was like that.

It was Summer and i landed on the farm. I remember a beautiful Canadian Bulgarian girl who instantly caught my eye and i caught hers. Her name was Zornitsa (Morning Star). She was 5'5, and me being a short 5'3 it was a funny juxtaposition. But we got on very well and i could never stop looking at her phat fucking ass cheeks omg so well shaped, so shapely, omfg.

There was also Nim, a native from Brussels. I also remember Andy from Netherlands, who introduced me to Japanese Doom Jazz and the band called Morphine from America. I also remember two Hungarians; one a lady in her late 40s ever seeking her prince in shining armour, the other same age as i back then. Very intelligent.

Nim, she was my height. She was my age. She was very very witty, very very hippy, and we would often relax together after our days work. It was my first ever time sharing a bite of an apple with a girl then. Zornitsa would show signs of heartbreak...poor girl...

There was one more girl...Jill from England. Somewhere near London. Londoners don't like Brummies (people from my city, the 2nd city of England...Birmingham...a right shit hole compared to London). She got on very intimately with Andy, and one day i almost stumbled on them duking it out bucket neked in their tent. Some mad shakin was goin down and i thought the horse got it and was fckin Andy silly LOL.

tbc...

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