So all the other projects that do this need life lines?
It is part of the evolution of the space.
And would give more people and projects exposure to Hive.
But Hive is celebrated as superior.
So then why aren't the other projects coming here saying "let us connect to you" instead Dan spins bullshit that Hive is "a popping island" and that bridging is a future possibility. It's rather hopeless too. Because just like someone said in another post. Steem had ability to do DeFi long ago and now that others make success with it, Hive wants to ride them coat tails.
4 years and this blockchain still doesn't know what it is our what direction it needs to take. Just speculation and selling hope to a shrinking community... AND a shrunken whale club.
That's why I call it a life line.
It's nothing definitive. Investors seek true commitment to a goal a roadmap detailing that path and past achievements proving a capable team.
I can understand your frustration but honestly Hive is not 4 years old.
I came here in March in the middle of the HF from Steem and since that move Hive has been popping. I think the bridging idea isnt trying to ride coat tails, or just about Defi. It is happening with most viable well built projects with solid usecases and protocols. Its not about what Steem didnt do, its about Hive and its unique usecase and benefits becoming more accessible as Web 3 gets closer. It IS going to happen, more than likely faster and more sudden than anyone expects. I dont understand how you can say that Dan is selling hope to a shrinking community. The man is putting his money, reputation, credibility and effort into building Hive into the Hub for decentralized digital society. And the community IS growing and development is growing.
Network effect is slow at first and then all of a sudden.
The centralized platforms are deleting and censoring content more everyday and people are becoming more aware of their options in many aspects of society. Hive is one of the few viable options that will give people an alternative and an entry point at a grass roots level.
We bridge to other chains and their community gets exposure and awareness of the benefits of Hive and the ease of interaction between chains facilitates their use of Hive for its applications without leaving their original community.
Coordination/Interoperability
Do you have any suggestions, reccommendations, ideas, solutions to the problems that make you so cynical?
Isnt that what open source and decentralization are all about.
I agree with your thoughts about investors, that would be great, but I think onboarding new users should be a priority and would go a long way to improving the true decentralization of Hive than some big money getting dumped in and the community treated as customers, Again.
Thanks for the reply
Peace
Your reply sounds more like you're trying to impress others than just address my previous comment.
That's part of the problem here.
It's CULT MIND that dominates.
Because rewards are so the focus people are careful with their words.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT.
FUCK EGOS AND FUCK MONEY STATUS.
You also claim Hive is young when the story of Hive (even written into its declaration) is that it's a continuation of the core of (steem) what makes this Blockchain. The code and the coders make up that entity.
Also those points you outlined.. "is still developing" "mainstream is censoring" "let's onboard lovingly" is just coping mechanisms. Yet they are contradictory. How long does development take? If the mainstreams are shutting down free speech then why is there no big organic onboarding. Essentially begging on Twitter is the only road in here.
Now people are asked to write testimonials.
That's what MLMs do, CULTS do, RELIGIONS do.
ALL communities where blind belief IS A MUST. They're also all systems/environments that ONLY attract the lower classes of society or the somewhat "broken people" of society that kind of see hope as a thing that means more than it should. Therefore they are easy to manipulate and dictate to, such as write testimonials.
That's not my point though because for this Hive to attract the poor is not a negative. It's that very few of them get real rewards that's the issue. Because regardless of the content, time then determines the outcome. That either the community dies more, because those that realize truth just up and leave, or more of the community becomes saturated with those who don't bring much money so the system inevitably will collapse.
As for suggestions.. then read my history.
I've made suggestions as far back as 2017. Some, that actually got implemented. Not because they listened to me. I'm not boasting. But simply because they did make sense so others identified the need also. When SMTs got announced for instance I suggested that proposals would be a good way to fund initiates from communities. A way for Whales to build their holdings and for those communities that don't have funds, to be able to rewards their engagement and content that builds on those communities.
This is why I see this place as the slowest train wreck. But just like the train industry of old. The owners of railways made money regardless.
Ultimately though I don't care if this collapses. The only emotion for this I experience is that it did become what I predicted. A place for the poor of the world to seek a little rewards.. and A LITTLE REWARD is exactly what the system became. So their time is just not recognized as valuable.
So all the other projects that do this need life lines?
It is part of the evolution of the space.
And would give more people and projects exposure to Hive.
But Hive is celebrated as superior.
So then why aren't the other projects coming here saying "let us connect to you" instead Dan spins bullshit that Hive is "a popping island" and that bridging is a future possibility. It's rather hopeless too. Because just like someone said in another post. Steem had ability to do DeFi long ago and now that others make success with it, Hive wants to ride them coat tails.
4 years and this blockchain still doesn't know what it is our what direction it needs to take. Just speculation and selling hope to a shrinking community... AND a shrunken whale club.
That's why I call it a life line.
It's nothing definitive. Investors seek true commitment to a goal a roadmap detailing that path and past achievements proving a capable team.
I can understand your frustration but honestly Hive is not 4 years old.
I came here in March in the middle of the HF from Steem and since that move Hive has been popping. I think the bridging idea isnt trying to ride coat tails, or just about Defi. It is happening with most viable well built projects with solid usecases and protocols. Its not about what Steem didnt do, its about Hive and its unique usecase and benefits becoming more accessible as Web 3 gets closer. It IS going to happen, more than likely faster and more sudden than anyone expects. I dont understand how you can say that Dan is selling hope to a shrinking community. The man is putting his money, reputation, credibility and effort into building Hive into the Hub for decentralized digital society. And the community IS growing and development is growing.
Network effect is slow at first and then all of a sudden.
The centralized platforms are deleting and censoring content more everyday and people are becoming more aware of their options in many aspects of society. Hive is one of the few viable options that will give people an alternative and an entry point at a grass roots level.
We bridge to other chains and their community gets exposure and awareness of the benefits of Hive and the ease of interaction between chains facilitates their use of Hive for its applications without leaving their original community.
Coordination/Interoperability
Do you have any suggestions, reccommendations, ideas, solutions to the problems that make you so cynical?
Isnt that what open source and decentralization are all about.
I agree with your thoughts about investors, that would be great, but I think onboarding new users should be a priority and would go a long way to improving the true decentralization of Hive than some big money getting dumped in and the community treated as customers, Again.
Thanks for the reply
Peace
Your reply sounds more like you're trying to impress others than just address my previous comment.
That's part of the problem here.
It's CULT MIND that dominates.
Because rewards are so the focus people are careful with their words.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT.
FUCK EGOS AND FUCK MONEY STATUS.
You also claim Hive is young when the story of Hive (even written into its declaration) is that it's a continuation of the core of (steem) what makes this Blockchain. The code and the coders make up that entity.
Also those points you outlined.. "is still developing" "mainstream is censoring" "let's onboard lovingly" is just coping mechanisms. Yet they are contradictory. How long does development take? If the mainstreams are shutting down free speech then why is there no big organic onboarding. Essentially begging on Twitter is the only road in here.
Now people are asked to write testimonials.
That's what MLMs do, CULTS do, RELIGIONS do.
ALL communities where blind belief IS A MUST. They're also all systems/environments that ONLY attract the lower classes of society or the somewhat "broken people" of society that kind of see hope as a thing that means more than it should. Therefore they are easy to manipulate and dictate to, such as write testimonials.
That's not my point though because for this Hive to attract the poor is not a negative. It's that very few of them get real rewards that's the issue. Because regardless of the content, time then determines the outcome. That either the community dies more, because those that realize truth just up and leave, or more of the community becomes saturated with those who don't bring much money so the system inevitably will collapse.
As for suggestions.. then read my history.
I've made suggestions as far back as 2017. Some, that actually got implemented. Not because they listened to me. I'm not boasting. But simply because they did make sense so others identified the need also. When SMTs got announced for instance I suggested that proposals would be a good way to fund initiates from communities. A way for Whales to build their holdings and for those communities that don't have funds, to be able to rewards their engagement and content that builds on those communities.
This is why I see this place as the slowest train wreck. But just like the train industry of old. The owners of railways made money regardless.
Ultimately though I don't care if this collapses. The only emotion for this I experience is that it did become what I predicted. A place for the poor of the world to seek a little rewards.. and A LITTLE REWARD is exactly what the system became. So their time is just not recognized as valuable.