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RE: Do You Have Free Will?

in Abundance Tribe4 years ago (edited)

Yes, we have free will. It is quite easily observable.

Certainly the e-motion of "free-will" is "easily observable".

However, your e-motion has no basis in your conscious decision making process.

(IFF) you PLAN to do something (THEN) your PLAN must be CAUSED by some desire.

Your WILL is a measure of your ability to PLAN.

Your WILL is a slave to your DESIRE.

Your WILL is not "free".

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Sorry, you have made the fallacy of which i have spoken just above.
You try to apply the scientific method of "modern materialistic science" to this, and of course, you get this conclusion.

(IFF) you PLAN to do something (THEN) your PLAN must be CAUSED by some desire.

In this, you are assuming time is linear and that the cause is before the effect.
Neither assumption is correct, and will lead you to a faulty conclusion.
(further, to talk about free will, we must talk about the now, and how it can affect the future and the past)

Your WILL is a measure of your ability to PLAN.

I would say that your will is closer to your ability to desire.

Your WILL is a slave to your DESIRE.

This is patently not true.
You see, there is a spot, a silence before the storm, where you can make a change in outcome.
Just after the incident, and just before your emotional response.
Every yogi knows this spot and makes use of it to change their lives.
Of course, this is all in the realm of metaphysics... so it is denied by "modern materialistic physics"

Your WILL is not "free".

From where i stand, i can clearly see the effect of free will.

In this, you are assuming time is linear and that the cause is before the effect.
Neither assumption is correct, and will lead you to a faulty conclusion.
(further, to talk about free will, we must talk about the now, and how it can affect the future and the past)

Which "framework" do you believe makes "free-will" a coherent concept?

I'm 100% onboard with "blocktime" and "non-linear causality" and all that, but NONE of these frameworks "fix" "the problem".

Just after the incident, and just before your emotional response.

Once again, I know exactly what you're talking about.

Yes, this is the "best" vantage-point from which to "choose your path" (so-to-speak).

HOWEver, this "quiet-place" is not "without desire".

This "quiet-place" is not "fully-neutral".

This "quiet-place" is somewhat insulated from the "immediate storm" of "this moment".

What you are in this "quiet-place" is still the amalgam of your "life-experience" and your "biology" (including your "instincts").

The "you" that is calm and quiet "inside yourself" is still shaped by your past.

The "you" that is calm and quiet "inside yourself" is still a slave to DESIRE.

The "you" that is calm and quiet "inside yourself" still wants something.

The "you" that is calm and quiet "inside yourself" still has a goal.

And although that goal may be more subtle and more "noble", it's still compelling you to act.

And compelled action is not "free".