OK ... I see what you are saying now. I did not realize that further back this thing went exactly the other way. FROM HERE, @xeldal appears to be doing good to good content creators, but because @themarkymark is not upvoting anyone, we can't see the other side of the coin except in the rare case of Mark's own posts. I can see the manipulation aspect now that I have more information.
But @acidyo, the fact remains: Deraaa and I and all these new Hivers did not need to be dragged into this, and we know whose DVs dragged us in. I'm willing to go for the premise of no good guys here between Mark and Xeldal and I've said that too. If we need both @xeldal and @themarkymark to care enough about this platform to stop feuding with each other so both their choices can get upvoted, I can accept that premise. But here is the thing: neither one has thought enough of the rest of us to move toward peace. Each is responsible for their part. Who wants to STOP BEING the BAD GUY?