RE: Gaza will be forever remembered as the graveyard of the angels: 3k children ...

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„The death of Jesus in the cross was necessary?“

• No, of course not. Why?

„We are losing the sanctity of human life.“

• Who? Hamas and other terrorists? Yes. I do not. Israel does not. They protect civilians to the best of their ability (though it is difficult if terrorists hide within hospitals or kindergartens).

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The death of Jesus had a bigger purpose.

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You are saying that the death of the children was necessary because it had a "noble" purpose looking into the future.

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„ You are saying that the death of the children was necessary because it had a "noble" purpose looking into the future.“

• No, I did not say that at all. I said that Hamas is responsible for the death of these children. Hamas slaughtered innocent people. Israel is obliged to protect its citizens (Jews and Arabs and Muslims) and to put an end to Hamas.

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Hamas did not kill its own children, they only provoked Israel to see if it would dare to do so, and it did.

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Only "provoked"? They slaughtered Israel's people, including children. They executed children with intent. And, Hamas "fighters" put their children between them and their enemies, putting these children into harms way.

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So Israel is responsible to protect its citizens no matter what? If it is nevessary to kill thousands of children it will be done. The end justify the means.

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"So Israel is responsible to protect its citizens no matter what?"

• Israel is responsible to protect its citizens, while following applicable law. If your neighbor explicitly says he wants to kill your family and tries again and again and again, killing one of your babies each and every year. What options do you have? You must end this neighbor.
• What alternative do you see for Israel? Putting down their weapons and let their people eliminated? How many Holocausts are necessary?

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"The end justify the means."

• Do you really imply that Israel applies inappropriate means?

And concerning the myth of "innocent civilians" in Gaza, I recommend reading @apshamilton: https://peakd.com/gaza/@apshamilton/gazans-are-not-victims-of-hamas-they-are-the-crucible-that-created-the-monster

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If I have a neighbor family with kids and the father of them threats me with a gun, i have the right to kill him, not the entire family.

And if my neighbor provokes me to kill his children for instance, and I do so, I am still the main responsible for it. So even if Hamas provoked Israel to slaughter children, Israel is still the main culprit for the abhorrent crime.

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If I have a neighbor family with kids and the father of them threats me with a gun, i have the right to kill him, not the entire family.

• And if you shoot at him and he puts his family in front of him, so his family dies - who is culpable?

So even if Hamas provoked Israel to slaughter children, Israel is still the main culprit for the abhorrent crime.

• This is utter nonsense and against the fact that Hamas uses children as protective shields.

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if I see that he is capable of that, I will avoid killing the innocents and wait for the appropriate moment to kill only him.

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Even if Hamas uses children as shields, that does not allow me to kill the children freely.