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RE: The Unsung Heroes Of Modern Science - Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz

in StemSocial4 years ago

That was a nice read. I didn't know the contributions of Leibniz outside math :3

mathematical development of fractal geometry - a geometric figure that is self-similar at all scales

But a straight lines is also self-similar at all scales ;)

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But a straight lines is also self-similar at all scales

I see what you're trying to do comrade 😜.
Yes it is but it's hardly a fractal, technically speaking it's fractal dimension is the same as it's topological dimension - they have to be different for it to be a fractal. The self-similar definition is mainly used for qualitative understanding/description.

 4 years ago  

Self-similar is more of a property. But then again not all fractals are self-similar. Closest to being correct and easy to understand is saying that fractals are typically self-similar.

Ok boss. I'm not well grounded in this fractal concept, so i may not be familiar with some of the things you just stated. However, are you saying conceptually speaking, there's some difficulty generalizing what a fractal actually is ?

 4 years ago  

There is difficulty in defining in what a fractal is because there are many fractal dimensions (boxcounting, correlation etc.). Is something still a fractal when there exists a fractal dimension which is equal to topological dimension and a fractal dimension which is not equal to topological dimension?

There is difficulty in defining in what a fractal is because there are many fractal dimensions (boxcounting, correlation etc.).

Quite interesting.

Is something still a fractal when there exists a fractal dimension which is equal to topological dimension and a fractal dimension which is not equal to topological dimension?

🧐 Why does this sound contradictory. Or are you talking about an object with 2 topological dimensions and above?
Probably in the first dimension of, say a 2D object, there's self-similarity but it's topological dimension is not the same as the fractal dimension and in the second dimension there's also self-similarity but the topological dimension is the same as the fractal dimension. Or is there something I'm missing ?

If it's for the 2D object, then i don't know. Plus i would love to see a visual representation of this kind of pseudo-fractal - if that's the right word to use.

 4 years ago  

So we can just take the real line and select the rationals over that. Then the topological dimension is 0, hausdorf dimension is also 0, but the box-counting dimension is 1.

For adding coordinates you can of course extend this argument to n-dimensions. :3

So you are saying that supposing we had a set S with points/elements (rational numbers) such as {1.1, 1.2, 1.3, ...} - gotten from a real number line, we could pick any point, say 1.1 and scale/magnify it down by 0.1, and correspondingly we have points which is also a set, given below as

X = { 0.11, 0.22, 0.33,...., 1.1}

X has cardinality of 10

Which means that every point in S when scaled/magnified by a non-zero factor gives a new set of points ( e.g X for 1.1), and every point in this new set also gives it's own corresponding new set when also magnified, and so those the process continues to ad infinitum. The self-similarity here is that points are contained in a point when magnified. However, a single point has a topological dimension of zero which is equivalent to the point's fractal dimension but the fractal dimension (box-counting dimension) of any magnified point, say 1.1 in S above is given by

D = log(N)/log(1/e)

D = fractal/box-counting dimension
N = number of points in the magnified point (1.1)
e = scale/magnification factor.

In our scenario as seen above

N = 10 (cardinality of set x)
e = 0.1
Therefore D = 1

This seems to me like a fractal.