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RE: Hive Dev Fund Proposal - Pilot (P1)

in #hive20 days ago

I expect this is likely to be THE most impactful DHF proposal ever if we get a sufficient number of qualified applicants.

If all the Hive programmers master using Claude Code, we should see a huge leap in productivity. Personaly, I estimate that I'm at least 10x more effective as a programmer with it.

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Why do you think funding tools for community members is a good way forward, instead of eg funding work results? Why do you think this is sustainable? And last but not least, what do your think is in fact needed to grow HIVE ecosystem and usage?

Funding tools vs Funding results: This is a no-brainer. If the devs don't have the tools, then we'll have far less results and they will cost a lot more.

Just do the math: the cheapest reasonable programmers you can find will cost you more than $1K USD per month. If they use Claude Code, for $200/month, it's like paying $1200 for $5000 worth of programmers. And that's assuming the cheapest programmer you could find, and you'll spend a lot of time trying to find a good programmer that would even work that cheap.

As to what will grow the ecosystem, there's two methods, it's not rocket science either: 1) provide more useful functionality (e.g. develop more software) and 2) market it better. At this particular time, I think method 1 is more easy to approach than 2.

The question remains, what are useful tools?
For instance, of all the blog web frontends we have, some are constantly funded from DHF, none of them has the UX of a standard social media. Am not even speaking about a native smartphone app. Funding devs is one; Funding (and driving) tools we absolutely need, is something else.

Implicit in the proposal is funding useful software. But obviously there will be different opinions about what is useful. If "useful" was a universal category, everyone would use the same software. If you feel you are the best judge of what's useful to the most people, then make a proposal for your idea of what's useful, and find someone to implement it.

Useful software doesn't sell it self.

Would you support funding proposals in which business teams are formed to seek partnerships with external services; When needed to create integrations between such partner services with the HIVE blockchain?
Cost will be involved including but not limited to cost of concept development, cost of sales, cost of contracts, costs of development (when such is needed).

If even a fraction of Hive’s active developers reach a genuine 5–10x productivity gain, the compounding effect across the ecosystem could be enormous, not just in shipped features, but in maintenance, iteration speed, and overall developer morale.

And Opus 4.6 is unbelievable. If it doesn't go through we get left behind

Bro kimi 2.5 on opencode is free. Is close as good to sonnet.

20$ claude is also pretty good to start with. Is not like it will pump out 100x devs.

And ppl with skills and experience dont need it for free. A open source model hosting would be different and used with Hive credits ( for example). Some market mechanic to refinance the use.

It is an excellent proposal to boost the Hive development, because it needs a big debugging. I think that not only the history is necessary but also the future projection.