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RE: Empty out the Hive!

in #hive5 months ago

Sir you are writing this on Hive and the aggregate 24h volume for Blurt is listed at $60 right now.
According to the Coingecko I could buy the entire network with a fraction of my Hive stack.

Can you name a single dev that left Hive for Blurt in the last 2 years?
I'd be shocked if there was even one person.

You call Hive a Cabal but Blurt was literally founded on capitalizing on an emergency situation to put the devs who forked it in charge without any regard to how much stake they had. They completely broke the entire stake-based consensus mechanism and pretended like this "solution" was more fair than the Hive distribution. They also couldn't even figure out how to make resource credits work so they just scrapped the entire thing and eventually added fees after a couple of spam attacks forced them to.

I just clicked that link referenced to your quote, and that "quite good writeup" is just an AI prompt that was given a leading narrative to bash Hive? What? That's nuts man.

Sure, downvotes have diminishing returns. The people who support downvotes pretend like there are no downsides, while the people who oppose downvotes pretend like there is no upside. Obviously both sides are wrong.

If Blurt has success, good for them.
I also still have the 16k coins I was airdropped 5 years ago.
Currently worth... $35?

Hive is a tiny tight-knit cultish community.
Blurt can't vampire attack this network.
Nor should it want to, as Hive is such a small/hardened target, why not cast a wider net elsewhere?

This is just the knee-jerk rant that popped into my head upon reading such things.

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Thanks for the counterpoint!

I believe that better options for visibility will remedy irresponsible down voting. The opinion of the stakeholders is valuable but not the only criteria to rank posts. Tamp down the self-reinforcing stake-based curation so that what is truly valuable can gain momentum.

I want a feed ranked by people's stake in !BEER ! 😁

developer who left hive for blurt is
@agorise who just created @blurt.media

The volume you are talking about is just probit trading volume, the actual volume considering hive engine and bee swap pools is around 2000-3000 USD per day. HE is simply not listed. Most of the volume goes through HE probably because many blurt users want to reach other exchanges than PROBIT and HE allows them to do so.

Nor should it want to, as Hive is such a small/hardened target, why not cast a wider net elsewhere?

We operate in this area. No one is Vamlirizing anyone. @drutter post is intended to show other users like me or dozens of others who came here to hive because hive is better advertised, but do not like the philosophy that the local devbeopers follow, that there are alternatives without this crap with downvotes.

For example, I used to be a big supporter and advocate of hive, but when I started to question the current system in a sensible and objective way, my @khrom account with many years of experience from steem was destroyed.

I used to think that hive was great, but I realized how crap it was, so much so that I not only switched to blurt but also became a developer. I used to be a blogger with slightly more computer skills, after years of learning I managed to write among others WP blurt publisher, Appreciator, and now I'm working on a panel for subscriptions to games and other services paid for via Blurt.

I encourage you to read more about why Downvote is a mechanism that denies what is happening here as an alternative to anything:

https://peakd.com/hive/@khrom/why-downvotes-contradict-decentralization-a-mathematical-perspective

https://peakd.com/hive/@khrom/the-downvote-economy-how-to-steal-the-value-of-someone-s-work-and-get-rich-off-their-efforts

It's not just a matter of where the bigger money is, it's a matter of philosophy and supporting the solutions you'd like to see. Your money has a say in the sense that wherever you invest it, you support the development of a given idea. If you support another centralized creation ala Facebook only on the blockchain and support censorship and demonetization for reasons of "political correctness" or you are simply interested in profits, then you are where you need to be :P But if you wanted to support the development of web3 and decentralization and were misled by the hive's advertising slogans, then we are here to make you aware that you have been deceived and you do not support it here and you will not find it.

Blurt's creators didn't make any accusations either. More applications are slowly being developed. The difference is in the capital. Remember that Hive, after switching from Steem, received millions of dollars in capital from people who switched, which allowed it to finance a lot. Not to mention that most services switched from Steem to Hive within a few weeks. Blurt, on the other hand, is more of a "garage job" after hours, which is why it's going slowly.

However, this garage job is only a matter of the number of users and investors. If many investors here understand that it's not worth supporting such a giant that has nothing to do with Web 3 and decentralization and freedom of speech (which it shows in its articles) and switch to Blurt, I guarantee you that it's only a matter of time before things speed up and Blurt overtakes Hive.

So it's worth having at least one foot there ;)