Good Morning,
I believe I have received enough information without influence to keep doing this part of my "project." Now I can look at things I have done in the past, to see if anything I do going forward is "too" biased.
That being said, I am going to be biased; everyone is. And I’m going to take most of the feedback, going forward, from stakeholders with large amounts of HP. Having a large amount of HP does matter HERE on HIVE. Being invested in the ecosystem does come with influence and I am receptive to that fact.
I deleted everyone on discord but I won’t commit to that forever. I am not promising I will add everyone back either and, I’m guessing if I do, the amount of people I do add will be very limited to the scope of “antiabuse.”
On the topic of "antiabuse" efforts, I think it is unreasonable to expect people to downvote "abuse" from their personal accounts; the outcome on here is just too ridiculous. When I say “the outcome,”
I don't even need to explain it, most people on HIVE know what I am talking about.
I think these "antiabuse" accounts doing downvoting manually makes the most sense right now. I will still hit the dislike button with my opinion on my @hurtlocker account but….. I am subject to change my opinion and maybe I will run one of the "antiabuse" accounts one day too. Just to be clear, if I do run an “antiabuse” account, I will NOT vote based on my opinion but will focus on “HIVE abuse” based on my interpretation at that point in time.
At the end of the day, there are a lot of interesting people doing really cool stuff here. The latest hardfork is a great example. It’s a huge achievement!
I think more people should focus on the things that do matter here:
- Building HP so you can influence the ecosystem
- Voting for witnesses that run the best nodes
- Voting for witnesses that selected an HBD APR you agree is reasonable
- Upvoting proposals that you understand and care about
- Show deference to the people that have built and continue to build HIVE
This is not financial advice in any way. Being a member of the ecosystem is a personal decision that you decide and I’m not totally sure it should be financial. You really need to care.
There are lots of really smart and interesting people doing really cool stuff on HIVE. There are a lot of stakeholders that really do care about the longterm potential of HIVE.
I am going back to doing “my thing” and I hope everyone keeps doing their thing.
Cheers and good luck to everyone,
Mr. Skull
I do also have plans myself to eventually power up an account completely separate from my real one that would only upvote things like hbd.funder/burn posts and focus more on downvoting so it wouldn't cause endless debates, retaliations, etc. That's the one thing people do when they get targeted for "fair" downvotes, imo. Look at the farming account queenart that I stumbled upon recently, they instantly "took it out" on me by unvoting our witness, etc. It's just the way the world works on here, everyone's so emotional about keeping the farms and low effort rewards going once they get there, very few actually take the time to wonder if the content they're generating is worth the rewards they're getting and if they should be posting every day or not.
Disagreeing on the reward pool should be separate from if that person is a good witness.
I think people can get emotional if they want. Sometimes it’s good to let stuff out, but to me a lot of the back and forth just doesn’t seem productive. 🤷♂️
Most people know the farming has really ramped up here recently. Most people have witnessed it without even trying to find it.
There are a lot, not all, but a lot of people farming the reward pool and they don’t care what price HIVE is. All they care about is how much fiat dollars they can get out of it.
And The whole thing is ironic. It’s all ridiculous. Curating is way easier than writing content. But people create content here, sell all the rewards, and then complain they can’t make any money here.
Yea, if people constantly dump all the HIVE they get, they are constantly restarting from zero. I agree that would be frustrating lol.
it's quite a conundrum. For one, keeping at least the hp part would help distribution and decentralization, you could make the argument that 1000 minnows have as much sway as a whale on witness and other gov votes, and they'd be able to start earning a decent amount of curation rewards over time for passive earnings as to not force themselves to post all the time or get in gray area farm activities.
At the same time, you are here, you see it working in your favor, you much like everyone else are quite a nobody outside of hive that wouldn't earn anything anywhere else so you could easily understand how nicely this place could scale if everyone was rewarded for their social activity yet you still choose not to leave any stake in the project that's been so nice to you? it's quite weird indeed.
Now of course some can't help it, their financial situation may call for it, etc, but when you see other people that ought to be better off still have no stake it's like why do we keep throwing money at them.
If hive were to exist on another chain I bet there'd be way more downvotes and they'd be a lot more protective over their l1 reward distribution.
100%. Anyone who has HP benefits from downvotes. (Assuming they are not the one who got downvoted and the downvote isn’t on something they curated).
Downvotes reduce inflation and allow you to curate for higher quality content which benefits HIVE. There is literally an economic incentive to downvote. And also, it’s like a button that’s right there. It’s pretty innocuous. Nothing on the user interface says, “WARNING! People will go absolutely insane if you click this button!”
Let me see if I understand your point. If there are negative votes, fewer new hives are generated, lowering the hive inflation rate. But I have a question: Don't negative votes cause rewards to return to the reward pool? Do they result in fewer total rewards being paid out?
No that was not my point.
No. The dislike button does not “return” rewards to the pool
Do they result in fewer total rewards being paid out? I have no idea how I could even prove this so idk what you are asking.
If the downvote doesn't return the rewards to the Hive rewards pool, I think I understand your point.
Should we prioritize voting for posts with 100% HP payment mechanisms then?
Do you think all of Hive's problems can be solved with downvotes?
I think people should prioritize upvoting high quality content. And I think high quality content creators should be encouraged by the people upvoting their content to build their stake and become a curator themself one day. Then you have a strong ally on chain. It’s a huge win win.
Also, I’m not really sure HIVE has any problems outside people just constantly dumping it lol.
So Hive only goes up when farmers buy Hive?
If they're the ones causing the drop, they should justify the price increases.
What price increase?
Mahalo to you and all the people making hive such a great place to be! :)
Yes, I get how HP is very important on so many levels. I am still working on my KE.. gotta improve that..
you seem quiet busy these days santa hurt. No more gametime in your menu now that you focus here on HIVE. It really makes sense to educated yourself before taking deeper in investing to one thing. Time and money alike, we should really need to understand why we are investing these to things. Maybe for fun or income, this is really a oneself decision.
What you told here is really informative. l hope i could explore more.
Good day :)
I think taking a step back and asking the “why?” is always healthy.
I wish you the best in your HIVE journey!
Good day to you too!
I think what you are doing is great, we've needed somebody to kick the hive for some time.
Drama brings in the eyeballs, after all.
The other day an improvement to the curation game occurred to me.
What if we could separate flags into curation flags and author flags, each not affecting the other.
Rather than have to punish good authors for bad curation, we could only punish the curation.
IF the curator wants to flag only one or the other, this should be an option open to them.
Some curators are long term drains on the system, while some other long term drains are authors.
Having the ability to discern, and treat differently, the two types of abuse would be a great move forward, imo.
What do you think about this?
I like where your head is at. I am not sure how hard that would be to implement or what all the downstream effects there would be.
One negative downstream effect I can think of is this creates a way for curators to curate other curators which could snowball out of control.
Side question - Is there currently a way for authors to reject the curation of a curator? I don't really see any cons in giving the author this power and it would allow people to "turn off" certain like spam "notifications".
Any change is likely to open new and unthought of ways of abuse, probably should run it by somebody that can better model the math than me.
No way to block curation, it would also block flags.
We just have to work out our own problems socially, I guess.
https://peakd.com/test/@abit/whales-no-up-voting-test
Changes have a long history here, you just have to look back to see how they worked out.
https://peakd.com/steemit/@karenmckersie/re-mindhunter-re-karenmckersie-re-mindhunter-re-karenmckersie-re-mindhunter-the-whale-experiment-has-failed-whale-exceptions-to-the-rule-are-downvoting-minnow-content-on-a-daily-basis-20170420t085626080z
Here is thepoor taxbeing celebrated by somebody that couldn't math.Oops, that is about the death of the n2, the poor tax was 2 forks later.
What hg19 did was give us linear rewards so the bidbots could reap us for the 2 years stinc went on (alleged) opium hazed walkabouts.
I was in that group for a long time, too.
Then folks started pointing out that it penalized anybody with less than 400k hp, I labeled it a poor tax, and they repealed it in the next fork.
But, pay close attention at who exactly was pushing it.
They are still here, they still rake the pool continuously.
The nice thing about all this being recorded with blockchain security is that they can't hide what they have done.
IF anything.
Does point 5 mean giving a downvote to someone who has done one thing or another for Hive or the community?
Sometimes
I am curating for higher quality content on my @hurtlocker so if you get a dislike from me that’s why.
The antiabuse accounts are not run by me and look for “abuse” which is obviously really subjective and is based on their interpretation.
Thanks for stopping by!
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Dude there was never any bargain. I am just some random guy who bought your token on a DEX. Anyone can do this.
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DUDE!
The brofund account is cooked. You have been here a longtime and you know this is how these things go. The brofund account is being held to the same standard as everyone else.
Whether you did it on purpose or not, the brofund account rug pulled at least 2 HIVE whales and a whole bunch of other people that have a lot of HP.
It doesn't matter if the rug was intentional, the chart speaks for itself.
This wasn't like some small thing. This is a big deal; everyone is still pissed.
It doesn't matter if you used to have a lot of HP and it doesn't matter why you sold your HIVE. It doesn't matter what your intentions were.
The brofund account is cooked; everyone knows this. But you did sell your raymondspeaks account. Maybe you can buy it back and salvage your network here?
I don't think you can walk away from HIVE. I think all these people are your friends and this is what you do. This is your thing.
Regardless what you do, I can't have anything to do with it. I need to focus on my antiabuse project.
You can figure it out. You are a smart guy. I believe in you.
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You told everyone to sell and it was all worthless. Hundreds of thousands of dollars was invested into it. This was a premeditated criminal act. No one fucked you in the ass with a freight train, you did that yourself.
That fact you honestly thought people would react differently is hysterical.
Your fairy-tale didn't work out the way you expected. Many people were there for you for years and you took advantage of them all.
You might want to put aside some of the inheritance you are getting for what is coming.
NR324DQ
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Just want to keep the record straight, when I originally bought into BRO token, no one ever mentioned there would be butt stuff.
Ok. A lot of these people are your friendly acquaintances. 🤷♂
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