HIVE is 100% censorship.

in #hive2 years ago (edited)

This is a decentralized spot yet few guys can censor others and nobody reacts. Why mine and others info never get shown ?

Why i am fully voted to zero despite post and quality ? Do we just allow whales to do censorship over those who they don't like?

HIVE whales are mostly vote sellers from STEEM, not investors.

Why do they choose who can be seen or not ?

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We can all read your posts how is it censorship?

There's no censorship here.
I'm sorry to say that but quality of your posts is long time gone.
Be honest with yourself.
You are supporting those responsible for hostile takeover and stealing of funds from our community members. Don't expect victims of that robbery to be happy about that.

Just be 100% real...
To be fair, the ELITES of Steem are the reason why their funds were taken away. After all, the funds from STEEM were owned by NED, he sold it and Justin Sun had every right to conduct business in the manner that he saw fit after overtaking Steem and the backlash behind it, BEFORE the STEEM to HIVE exodus movement and all the corrupt drama coming from both sides. As a result of it, I chose to just not choose any side, and I remain active on Steem, Blurt and Hive.

The petty drama from elite dorks on Hive/Steem is unrelated to me and yet they want me to choose a side? Like, no. I didn't come to Steem/Hive for drama, I just wanted a place to share my opinions.

The chain has already split, Hive is more prosperous than Steem, you guys won the influence game, now stop the petty drama.
... Or at the very least... Stop trying to involve others in your petty squabbles with Steem. The majority of Hive and Steem don't care about the drama anymore, only the elite dorks who got their attitudes checked by a whale (Justin Sun) with more influence. Funny how that works. There is always a bigger fish WHALE. Or so, that is what the elite dorks used to tell us, as everybody with influence on the chain has a right to influence the chain according to its parameters/limitations/code. Funny how that concept gets thrown out the window when talking about Justin Sun... I guess the hive elites are very selective.

As for Justin Sun...
If he didn't have a right to take the chain, then why would you code it into the blockchain? Why wouldn't they code a failsafe for this "particular attack"? Well knowing that any BILLIONAIRE can just swipe up huge chunks of the chain, thus influence over it; HIVE/STEEM/BLURT IS a PAY TO PLAY system. The more you pay the more you can play. This is the FOLLY of Proof-of-Stake based cryptocurrencies, regardless if its DPOS, POS, or some special alternative.

In essence, what I'm trying to say... This was predictable. IT didn't have to be Justin Sun, it could have been anyone else with a few million dollars in their pockets. Next time, the elite dorks need to be prepared, accept responsibility for not providing an adequate fail-safe in the code and stop making enemies out of people who don't care about Hive/Steem politics.

This goes to EVERY DEV how has an issue with STEEM/Justin Sun today. You built the chain, you created the rules... You created this PAY TO PLAY blockchain. Don't get mad at us for being indifferent.

The petty drama from elite dorks on Hive/Steem is unrelated to me and yet they want me to choose a side? (...) Stop trying to involve others

And how exactly I forced you to be involved in this talk?
Clearly you have no idea about the case.

"It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt."

Nobody said you forced someone. LOL

Also, yes, your quote is exactly what I think of some of the devs who are SoOoOoOoo smart and SoOOooOooOo Elite that they couldn't predict a future take over of the chain well knowing the problems POS-based cryptocurrencies have.

Maybe they are incompetent and don't know what they're doing. Or maybe they know EXACTLY what they are doing and are just mad that someone with a bigger wallet played with their digital toy. shrugs

Like I said, don't hate us for being indifferent. Oh, and don't hate the player who played your game. :D

And with that... BOOM! Mic Drop!

After all, the funds from STEEM were owned by NED, he sold it and Justin Sun had every right to conduct business in the manner that he saw fit after overtaking Steem and the backlash behind it, BEFORE the STEEM to HIVE exodus movement and all the corrupt drama coming from both sides. As a result of it, I chose to just not choose any side, and I remain active on Steem, Blurt and Hive.

You obviously weren't around when Ned/Dan promised that those funds owned by Steemit were going to be used for development and onboarding, not as a personal piggyback (although I guess it was understood that Steemit would keep some as profit from what they charged for their work). Or you would view the entire issue quite differently I suspect.

Did you really think they were able to sell a massive majority ninja-mine to Steem buyers without any kind of promises at all about how that ninja-mined stake would be used?

And, yes, Ned reversed this claim years later and claimed he could do whatever he wanted with the funds, and I suppose that's all you heard. If so, I suppose your indifference might be understandable, albeit wrong.

But please don't assume we're idiots. We just believed a lie. It happens all the time, but since I believe the violation of this promise led to the level of fraud in this case, I don't think it was unreasonable for us to believe the promise would be honored.

You obviously weren't around when Ned/Dan promised that those funds owned by Steemit were going to be used for development and onboarding,

Those were promises set forth by NED. When the money changes hands, it's no longer NED's. That's my point.

Tough cookies.
Don't trust centralized authorities.
Crypto 101.

When the money changes hands, it's no longer NED's. That's my point.

Your point is not correct. Under the law, a company can't just throw away liabilities during a sale. And when an officer makes a promise for that company and investors depend upon it, the company's successors are bound by the liabilities incurred in the past.

Unless your real point is "don't trust anyone to tell the truth or abide by their word, even when the promise creates a legal obligation or rises to the level of fraud when violated". In that case, sure your point is valid, but would seem to imply you should never invest in anything except your own work. I.e. "I'm an island and I can achieve all ends I desire by myself". In my opinion, that idea leads towards the death of civilization and real progress by mankind.

Just to let you know, I saw this post too...